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sexlegend
05-11-2022, 03:42 PM
How's the ferry situation now? I'll coming from other part of Indonesia & planning to cross over to Spore. Any issue if I walk in to buy ferry tic or better to book in advance. Hope to get some ground intel. Kamsia in advance.

nitecrawllerr
05-11-2022, 03:46 PM
True.

Price of everything every year also increase, with or without inflation. I remember last time you say before, once upon a time booking in Batam only 250k - 300k or so. Look at today's pricing now...hehehe...compare with 1.4 to 1.8 juta. My salary + market inflation also never increase 4 to 6 times.

What i am trying to say is the interest i earned next year will be use to at least subsidize the amount of spending which i will be doing in Batam, & even more so when Batam increased its price.

Yes bro. Those were the days. Still remember with S$200 i could stay 3D2N. Thats why i dont like the idea of getting more rupiahs from exchange cos hotel, cewek, food and now ferry fares, would surely rise in tandem! So it really doesnt benefit me. I would rather the currency remain stable.

If your interest earned can subsidize your spending for the whole year that means your principle amount must be huge ya.:D

Jas28
05-11-2022, 04:02 PM
Depending on how you treat them
If you keep them in the room whole day
Then there will be boredom

I suggest bring her out
Go watch movies
Go shopping
Go makan at food court
Then bring to bars or ktv
Sure she will stay longer

Agree with that . During booking they smile at u to get u to book them(in there mind already have plan B). after the 1st shot before u can suggest to go out for makan she already activate plan B. Guess is just luck , if handsome and young then is another story. Language is another issue.:)

Moredhel
05-11-2022, 07:40 PM
Should I change rupiah in sg or batam?

lincoln3010
05-11-2022, 09:53 PM
Agree with that . During booking they smile at u to get u to book them(in there mind already have plan B). after the 1st shot before u can suggest to go out for makan she already activate plan B. Guess is just luck , if handsome and young then is another story. Language is another issue.:)

I think language plays a factor definitely
Also if you hang out with folks from the nighlife then things would be different.
It's mostly boils down to your own contacts in batam which she's familiar with.

timok
06-11-2022, 04:53 AM
Hi all, its been 2 years since I last set foot on batam, planning a trip next week and read through most of the recent posts on this threads.

Just a quick question, where is a good pub to have a drink (and if lucky meet some girls). Ok with not meeting any girls as I am going alone and this trip is specifically for relax and recharge so massage is mostly priority for me. Probably will booked Batam City hotel as what the other bros here had suggested and maybe roam around BCS area.

Peypey
06-11-2022, 07:36 AM
Latest legal sponsor in sbf...go support if can...:)

https://sbfsg.fun/showthread.php?t=906086

Is this same as the Hello Kitty booking joint...:confused:
Thanks Hurricane88 for support
Not same bro

kangoo-georgie
06-11-2022, 07:39 AM
Any good drivers to recommend? Going sintai batam.

kanelo75
06-11-2022, 11:22 AM
Any good drivers to recommend? Going sintai batam.
Sintai open at 8pm

lincoln3010
06-11-2022, 12:27 PM
Hi all, its been 2 years since I last set foot on batam, planning a trip next week and read through most of the recent posts on this threads.

Just a quick question, where is a good pub to have a drink (and if lucky meet some girls). Ok with not meeting any girls as I am going alone and this trip is specifically for relax and recharge so massage is mostly priority for me. Probably will booked Batam City hotel as what the other bros here had suggested and maybe roam around BCS area.

Kampong Bule bars

Black Page
06-11-2022, 05:19 PM
Just a quick question, where is a good pub to have a drink (and if lucky meet some girls). Ok with not meeting any girls as I am going alone and this trip is specifically for relax and recharge so massage is mostly priority for me.
I am bule and two weeks ago I did not visit any single pub in Kampung Bule. If you like good music and ambience, avoid. If you like playing pool and drink some beers, in company of girls from low level to some sexy one, it's ok.

My advice, if you like something at higher level, is to go to GOOD pubs: Holywings, F1 (at Planet Holiday Hotel), Square Club (at i-Hotel in Penuin), maybe even HH Club (formerly Planet 3 disco, near Newton, now something as a popular level pub, not classy). Strictly avoid ripoff places (one is Bombastic: I have never gone, but I was told so).

Djblackz
06-11-2022, 06:57 PM
I am bule and two weeks ago I did not visit any single pub in Kampung Bule. If you like good music and ambience, avoid. If you like playing pool and drink some beers, in company of girls from low level to some sexy one, it's ok.

My advice, if you like something at higher level, is to go to GOOD pubs: Holywings, F1 (at Planet Holiday Hotel), Square Club (at i-Hotel in Penuin), maybe even HH Club (formerly Planet 3 disco, near Newton, now something as a popular level pub, not classy). Strictly avoid ripoff places (one is Bombastic: I have never gone, but I was told so).

I agree with what you mentioned about K.Bule pubs, thot the music was really bad. Maybe I should try somewhere else next time. Thank you for the recommendations. I hope to visit them on my next trip.

nono1973
06-11-2022, 08:55 PM
I remembered even earlier than pre-covid time say maybe about 8-10 years ago, formosa hotel room pricing was adjusted when rupiah devalued.

True, they increased their pricing due to depreciation of rupiah.

Anyway, the price later drop rather a lot (compare price over the years). My latest room price was about S$40 a night on average in my favorite room,hehehe...

I love their sauna room where no one use or perhaps even know about,hehehe...can bring few girls inside to play gang bang,hehehe... i also can't remember how many girls in pop in that "room" already. :p

Most important of all, like Gideon Hotel's "Justme"...it is FREE to use!!!
(healthy life style)


But unfortunately, from 1 Nov 2022, horizon ferry charged a tax of $3 for departure from harbourfront terminal. Hopefully there will not be any more increase in ferry price again when GST hike next year.

I hope so too.

But...well...

Yes agree because return ferry ticket only need to be paid once whereas hotel room rate has to be paid according to number of night stay.

I don't know about you, but i find Batam's hotel has drop a bit.

A little lesser than before covid time.

I notice BCH has a special room which i was eyeing for a very long time (but always cannot get). And i do not have the time to try now. But i am writing it on my list for now.

I am currently at the stage of rebooting my "game" in batam & i am nowhere close to what i am looking for yet. I do not wish to rush to get there but slowing "tasting" the changes for now.

Thereafter, you probably see me staying in a just few hotels only.

But noticed that the expiry date of the ticket was usually end June or end December. The validity of a normal ticket will usually be more than 6 months whereas a cheaper ticket had a shorter validity period between 1-3 months

My ticket is expiring on Dec. Hmm...so much changes, everything so unstable now, even in Batam.

I am preparing for CNY2023 as i type this. But before that, i need to complete my Nov 2022 trip 1st.

Yes you are rite, don’t underestimate the power of small money.

The coin inside the piggy bank can buy us a ferry ticket too :p

Many small savings can be compounded to become a big saving.

所谓积少成多

Pound wise but penny must also not be foolish, rite hehe

When i made my 1st trip to Batam about 10 years ago, i have a small target. I hope to use cheonging to sustain my cheonging (i ever mention this nearly 10 years ago in my Batam trip summaries). Meaning without spending a dime, i can still have a good time.

Before covid time, i am almost there. Today, haiz...i need to reboot all that. Yes, i am spending "my own money" on the last few trips... even tho its lesser & lesser each trip but i am still a distance from what i used to be (in Batam).

Apologize for all the ranting above, i am just feeling so tired...hehehe...the feeling is like i build something "there" with so much time & effort. It just topples down over time.

Sorry....

______________________________________________

Breaking news

Today so happen to have an opportunity to speak to the ex front desk manager of formosa hotel. :)


You mean you talked to Riki?

Now, thats good news to me & many here.

Whether it will name Formosa or not doesn't matter. Hope their chef comes back tho,hehehe... i am even prepare for drop in service level too.

Hope to see them back there again. They'll remember their regular guests like Blackpage, Kaboon, me & the rest of the other samsters here,hehehe...especially me who often put their staffs on "testes".

nono1973
06-11-2022, 09:22 PM
Is this same as the Hello Kitty booking joint...:confused:

This shop?

New shop (same location)
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or this shop?

Old shop (old photo,hehehe...i took the photo many years ago)
517344

Or none of the above? :D

It's not a booking joint. Above 2 photo is the same shop, same location just taken in different part of the years.

Went to both the new & old shop before.

Never really "dwell" inside before hence i cannot say i know all.

My current conclusion : It's meant for bros who has money (lots of it) but do not have the time when in Batam.

I do not have facebook, twitter or any of those apps, let allow telegram. So i have to go check with my friends who has it.

Since its a paid advertiser in SBF, cannot comment much now.

May drop by to look see again (& who knows again & again?).

Now preparing my next Batam trip (Nov 2022)...hehehe...

timok
07-11-2022, 02:29 AM
I am bule and two weeks ago I did not visit any single pub in Kampung Bule. If you like good music and ambience, avoid. If you like playing pool and drink some beers, in company of girls from low level to some sexy one, it's ok.

My advice, if you like something at higher level, is to go to GOOD pubs: Holywings, F1 (at Planet Holiday Hotel), Square Club (at i-Hotel in Penuin), maybe even HH Club (formerly Planet 3 disco, near Newton, now something as a popular level pub, not classy). Strictly avoid ripoff places (one is Bombastic: I have never gone, but I was told so).

Thanks for the recommendation, I will check those out!

Nulgath
07-11-2022, 12:14 PM
Should I change rupiah in sg or batam?

I like your avatar. Looks quite like my avatar in some ways. :rolleyes:

And to answer your question. Yes, you should change rupiah in Batam.

But if you do not have a single piece of rupiah at all currently, would suggest you change small amount of rupiah in Singapore first ($50).

The most expensive place to change rupiah in Batam mostly offer better rate compared to Singapore. And most expensive place to change rupiah is none other than Batam Airport/Ferry terminal, major malls etc.

For better rates in Batam, just go to any single shop house-type of money changer to make your change. Always ask for the rate there first before deciding.

For the best rates, simply go to an area where there are money changer clusters. Competition among them usually offers the best.

Hope my reply helps.

miumiu6464
07-11-2022, 02:21 PM
Now preparing my next Batam trip (Nov 2022)...hehehe...

Have a good trip!

Moredhel
07-11-2022, 06:40 PM
I like your avatar. Looks quite like my avatar in some ways. :rolleyes:

And to answer your question. Yes, you should change rupiah in Batam.

But if you do not have a single piece of rupiah at all currently, would suggest you change small amount of rupiah in Singapore first ($50).

Hope my reply helps.

Thanks for the compliment bro. Yes i quite like this avatar. Used since donkey years ago when still in bmt.

And appreciate the advice. Will change abit to cover taxi at harbour bay. Just dug up bro retirebatam's post on the orange moneychanger. Will take advantage of the advice of more experienced bros.

lincoln3010
07-11-2022, 06:46 PM
Anyone tried Thrive KTV

They seem to be active every day on tik tok

miumiu6464
07-11-2022, 07:19 PM
Thanks for the compliment bro. Yes i quite like this avatar. Used since donkey years ago when still in bmt.

And appreciate the advice. Will change abit to cover taxi at harbour bay. Just dug up bro retirebatam's post on the orange moneychanger. Will take advantage of the advice of more experienced bros.

If you use Grab app, you can use the existing balance in your Grab account to pay for your Grab booking. The online taxi pickup point is a short 3-4 min walk from HBB Starbucks exit... Of course, the conversion won't be the best rate if you pay via Grab. But, at least it enable you to get on taxi and take your time later to hunt for money changer near your hotel.

Jas28
07-11-2022, 08:38 PM
I think language plays a factor definitely
Also if you hang out with folks from the nighlife then things would be different.
It's mostly boils down to your own contacts in batam which she's familiar with.

Advice , noted.

retirebatam
08-11-2022, 12:50 AM
True, they increased their pricing due to depreciation of rupiah.

Anyway, the price later drop rather a lot (compare price over the years). My latest room price was about S$40 a night on average in my favorite room,hehehe...

I love their sauna room where no one use or perhaps even know about,hehehe...can bring few girls inside to play gang bang,hehehe... i also can't remember how many girls in pop in that "room" already. :p

Most important of all, like Gideon Hotel's "Justme"...it is FREE to use!!!
(healthy life style)

If you didn’t mentioned that formosa had a sauna room, I don’t even know that it existed.

Is it hidden inside king’s massage parlour at level 4 ? :D

King’s massage had a staircase shortcut that leads to level 3.

I only know that there was a under-utilized gym in formosa hotel hidden near the staircase of level 3 at one corner if not mistaken.



I don't know about you, but i find Batam's hotel has drop a bit.

A little lesser than before covid time.

I notice BCH has a special room which i was eyeing for a very long time (but always cannot get). And i do not have the time to try now. But i am writing it on my list for now.

I am currently at the stage of rebooting my "game" in batam & i am nowhere close to what i am looking for yet. I do not wish to rush to get there but slowing "tasting" the changes for now.

Thereafter, you probably see me staying in a just few hotels only.

Yes, (never try never know) it is good to always try out new hotel, grade them according to different tiers and put under your favourite hotel list if it satisfied your expectation.

百闻不如一见 See for oneself is better than hearing from others a hundred times.

Choosing the right hotel is important as it can made our stay more comfortable and gives us a good mood.

Below are some criteria:

1) Hotel with a good location made our trip more convenient, help save time and transport money.

2) Hotel with decent breakfast help save some money and without the need to go elsewhere to look for food which in turn help save some time.

3) Hotel with free shuttle service provide transfer to ferry terminal as well as shopping mall, thus save on transport fee

4) Hotel with in-house massage can be called to room for massage which is more comfortable and spacious plus can enjoy special service too and need not have to worry about the cewek moaning sound :D

5) Hotel with rooms in good condition like air-con working, good water pressure, drainage and flushing okay, room amenities provided, etc.

6) Hotel with room cleanliness acceptable standard with no pest and no bad smell. Formosa room used air fresheners auto spray at an interval.

7) Hotel with room that is not too far from the lift lobby if not will have to walk very long. Squarish floor layout like formosa is better than rectangular layout

Also if possible not to choose the last room of the hallway as it was seldom been used by hotel guest and everyone knows the reason..

However, everyone's criteria and priority for choosing a hotel is different.

Sometime I will review the hotel room I have stayed before, will record down the room number for the good one, whereas lousy one will be blacklisted hehe :)



My ticket is expiring on Dec. Hmm...so much changes, everything so unstable now, even in Batam.

I am preparing for CNY2023 as i type this. But before that, i need to complete my Nov 2022 trip 1st.

When i made my 1st trip to Batam about 10 years ago, i have a small target. I hope to use cheonging to sustain my cheonging (i ever mention this nearly 10 years ago in my Batam trip summaries). Meaning without spending a dime, i can still have a good time.

Before covid time, i am almost there. Today, haiz...i need to reboot all that. Yes, i am spending "my own money" on the last few trips... even tho its lesser & lesser each trip but i am still a distance from what i used to be (in Batam).

Not bad at least you were able to cheong for free previously. :p

I think for me to really enjoy staying in batam without worrying for money will have to wait till my retirement age which is another 10 over years from now as I am only in my late fourties

Generally most of the working people will have their passive income during retirement from :

1) cpf life annuity monthly payout

2) cpf accounts (oa,sa,ma) yearly interest

3) insurance monthly or lump sum payout

4) fix deposit interest

5) share dividend

6) room rental from renting out a room

7) Part time sales

8) other investment incomes like bonds, unit trust, etc




You mean you talked to Riki?

Now, thats good news to me & many here.

Whether it will name Formosa or not doesn't matter. Hope their chef comes back tho,hehehe... i am even prepare for drop in service level too.

Hope to see them back there again. They'll remember their regular guests like Blackpage, Kaboon, me & the rest of the other samsters here,hehehe...especially me who often put their staffs on "testes".

Yes, Mr Riki. He is currently working in another hotel near Batam Centre.

He was also looking forward to joining the new hotel when it is ready next year.

Indeed formosa kitchen food really got some standard, price reasonable and best of all zi char ala cart was 24 hours..:D

I believed during the opening of the new hotel, will be able to see some ex-employee of formosa (maybe receptionist, bellboy, waitress, chef, chambermaid, supir, working cewek) invited back to join the hotel.

As nowadays social media has been very effective to reach out to people.

retirebatam
08-11-2022, 01:27 AM
Whether it will name Formosa or not doesn't matter. Hope their chef comes back tho,hehehe... i am even prepare for drop in service level too.

Hope to see them back there again. They'll remember their regular guests like Blackpage, Kaboon, me & the rest of the other samsters here,hehehe...especially me who often put their staffs on "testes".

Who knows maybe the courteous, smiling Sinta will be back to the new hotel, which her children whom she had to take care years ago may have already grown up.

Wonder whether in future the new hotel comes out with a membership discount card for free hotel stay like we used to have during formosa time.:)

I remembered you have achieve the gold card status. :p

Little did we know that formosa can close shop during that time :eek:

I also remembered that Formosa's safe deposit box in the reception area is safer than those mini safe box provided in the room of other hotel

Because those safe box in the room can be carried away by strong burglar whereas formosa's centralised safe box is in the room jaga by the staff

miumiu6464
08-11-2022, 03:51 PM
Exchange Rate $1 : 11,000 rupiah at Grand Batam Mall Basement

nono1973
08-11-2022, 07:24 PM
Another thing you may wish to take note in future if you pass by there, is that there is a Money Changer near to the Wey Wey Bridal shop there closer to the car gantry area almost opposite Gogo supermarket.

510569

They offered as good rate as the money changer opposite ex Formosa Hotel. ;)

100% better rate than any Harbour Bay ferry terminal money changer.

By the way, i came back to Singapore one day after you....hehehe.... :D

11120/SGD as above (evening after sunset rate).

Was offered 11100/SGD at 1st. After bargaining, then 11120/SGD.

I do not think this is the best rate yet as i see google rate is at 11150/SGD.

Changed S$200 1st.

Will camp & see any better rate later.

One thing to know, there are at least 5 to 6 staffs working in this money changer. Some time even around 10 or more.

Black Page
08-11-2022, 08:36 PM
Anyway, the price later drop rather a lot (compare price over the years). My latest room price was about S$40 a night on average in my favorite room,hehehe...

On my last trip, I made the Deal of the Year: I booked Four Points by Marriott for some S$45/day 5-6 months before my trip, when just one month before my trip the price had increased to S$90.


I love their sauna room where no one use or perhaps even know about,hehehe...can bring few girls inside to play gang bang,hehehe... i also can't remember how many girls in pop in that "room" already. :p
Really, as RetireBatam, I did not even know about that! :eek:
And I have been to Formosa so many times over 10 years (Gold Member status, ehehe :D).


When i made my 1st trip to Batam about 10 years ago, i have a small target. I hope to use cheonging to sustain my cheonging
I have considered to prostitute myself with old ladies to collect money to pay young prostitutes, but this business is difficult.:D


I only know that there was a under-utilized gym in formosa hotel hidden near the staircase of level 3 at one corner if not mistaken.
I was used to go there every day on my first travels to Batam during afternoons. More recently, I have become lazy and I have always spent my afternoons looking at local girls from my table at JCo at Nagoya Hill Mall.

Who knows maybe the courteous, smiling Sinta will be back to the new hotel, which her children whom she had to take care years ago may have already grown up.
How old is her daughter now? :)
Seriously, I have been in love with Sinta for many years. Her smile was my welcome to Formosa, which meant Batam for me.


Wonder whether in future the new hotel comes out with a membership discount card for free hotel stay like we used to have during formosa time.
I remembered you have achieve the gold card status.

I still have my Formosa Gold Card in my plastic envelope where I keep IDR left over the last trip. First of all, it is like a trophy for me. Second, who knows if it will be still useful...

nono1973
08-11-2022, 10:52 PM
I am back to square one now,hehehe...

My combat ration for this trip:

518213

...and my bill for the above (below).

518214

Follow by my test for the girl/s tonight, tomorrow night & the rest of my other nights in Batam. :D

518215

No need to worry (about me), no real money is lost & will be lost here.

Just planning a bit of fun tonight & the rest of my other nights.
(thinking fun from out of the box)

Batam is like a game to me.
(will reply to the other posts on a later time, now a bit busy,hehehe...)

Moredhel
08-11-2022, 11:16 PM
Wah bro u fierce. This type of trap u also can play.

oohay_lah
09-11-2022, 01:28 AM
Any bros know of any casino in batam? Appreciate if anyone can share info. Many thanks

goldie9660
09-11-2022, 02:36 PM
Hi, any bros know of any booking joints? I am planning to book a girl for the whole day + overnight. How much is the damage?

miumiu6464
09-11-2022, 03:53 PM
Hi, any bros know of any booking joints? I am planning to book a girl for the whole day + overnight. How much is the damage?

Booking joints have been shared in the last few pages. Joints like Sekar (opposite Hana Hotel) and Mawar (think ex-Bunga, opposite DC Mall)..Booking fee range have also been mentioned..

kum69
09-11-2022, 05:12 PM
Booking joints have been shared in the last few pages. Joints like Sekar (opposite Hana Hotel) and Mawar (think ex-Bunga, opposite DC Mall)..Booking fee range have also been mentioned..

Yup, me too. Going in december. I have not been to btm past 10 years. Pls advise on booking joints and their rates.

Which disco is happening now?

I am going on a monday. Hmmmm... i wonder how will a weekday be like.

Moredhel
09-11-2022, 06:17 PM
Just change money at the orange store of the orange building. Chinese girl at counter can converse in chinese. Gave 11100. After bargain 11130. Not too bad. Today fx 11173.

HBB mx rate at 11000
HBFSG mx rate at 10030 lol. Terrible.


Btw, ojek normally give how much ah? Nearby like planet holiday to nagoya hill

miumiu6464
09-11-2022, 09:01 PM
Just change money at the orange store of the orange building. Chinese girl at counter can converse in chinese. Gave 11100. After bargain 11130. Not too bad. Today fx 11173.

HBB mx rate at 11000
HBFSG mx rate at 10030 lol. Terrible.


Btw, ojek normally give how much ah? Nearby like planet holiday to nagoya hill

Gojek quote me 9000 rupiah. Streetdside ojet might quote you 25k. But, you may want to bring your shower cap in case their helmet got powerful smell. Over 10 years of taking street side ojet, i only encounter 1 who provide shower cap.

lincoln3010
09-11-2022, 09:03 PM
Booking joint can try memory ktv
Also can try the new morena booking joint

kum69
09-11-2022, 09:23 PM
Booking joint can try memory ktv
Also can try the new morena booking joint

Is Rio Rita still around?

Thanks

Moredhel
10-11-2022, 01:38 AM
Reached late so try go for fl. Totally different person. She say assigned by papi. But itchy already and late so just try. Waste time. After pay already everything want to talk money. Screwed up experience. Tomorrow going booking joint instead.

First time in batam so the mercenary attitude totally shocked me. Last time i play indonesia was in tj pinang donkey years ago. Was hoping to get back similar experience but so far disappointed.

Lets see if she will chut pattern in the morning.

Moredhel
10-11-2022, 01:39 AM
Gojek quote me 9000 rupiah. Streetdside ojet might quote you 25k. But, you may want to bring your shower cap in case their helmet got powerful smell. Over 10 years of taking street side ojet, i only encounter 1 who provide shower cap.

Lol i whack without helmet. Not cewek but ojek. But nearby and slow speed so ok la. Gave 20k for the convenience.

Black Page
10-11-2022, 01:52 AM
and Mawar (think ex-Bunga, opposite DC Mall)
And Lapan Dua even before....? :D

Gojek quote me 9000 rupiah. Streetdside ojet might quote you 25k.
Lol i whack without helmet. Not cewek but ojek. But nearby and slow speed so ok la. Gave 20k for the convenience.

Say you will give 15k before getting on bike. More than enough for a short ride. 20k only at night or for a longer ride.
It's not that 5k makes a big difference for us, but the normal price is that.

Waste time. After pay already everything want to talk money. Screwed up experience. Tomorrow going booking joint instead.
First time in batam so the mercenary attitude totally shocked me.

FL from WeChat? Strongly not recommended, not to experts, even less to a newbie. What happened to you is the typical experience reported here many times already.

lincoln3010
10-11-2022, 10:48 AM
Is Rio Rita still around?

Thanks

Just went for a quick pop there

So not sure if the person u mentioned is there

Apologies

Sex Kid
10-11-2022, 02:00 PM
Hello brudders,

How to post pictures here ah?

Thank you brudders.

Moredhel
10-11-2022, 03:37 PM
Yeah bro Blackpage. Like mj, pay to learn. From this experience, screened out 95% of them. 5% slowly distill to see if this taught me anything. Might still try 1 more time since still have 4 nights there and if I find one that doesn't ring the alarm bells.

What I learnt:
1. Those that ask for you sg number or deposit, just ignore. Highly likely scammers.

2. Picture too chio or obviously photoshopped, 99.95% fake.

3. Always state beforehand that if person turning up not same as photo, will reject and no rejection/taxi fee. This will stop those trying to earn a quick freebie. To be used with next point.

4. If they pass all the above checkpoints, they will ask for your hotel and room number and hotel registration name. ALWAYS give a fake room number and name. State that you will meet them at the lobby. This will give you a chance to check if they are real without being in a compromised position.

Honestly, I feel it's a waste of time to have to do all that for small or nil returns, but if you have time and feel lucky...

That's all from me. Any experienced bros have any advice to add?

hayhay
10-11-2022, 04:03 PM
Dear brother, I’m working at batam now. Is there any short time? Last time I remember there is a new belian or something any address? so any to intro?

nitecrawllerr
10-11-2022, 04:50 PM
Dear brother, I’m working at batam now.

Best ya. Working in btm. Envy you.:D

hayhay
10-11-2022, 04:55 PM
Best ya. Working in btm. Envy you.:D

Not like holiday at batam, after work then free to venture out, but have curfew also.

hayhay
10-11-2022, 05:44 PM
Weeks ago took a walk at Sintai.
Now no more entry ticket but guards still there.
surprise to see quite a good line up
Unfortunately can take photos/video :(

Can't "tahpao" unless you want to leave some personal ID doc there.
ST 200k1s, 300K 2s

Some update on the road trip..
The Barelang T junction has become a roundabout. All stalls, include the row of RM Batak(dogs meat) all gone.

The cross junction lead to SKP aslo become roundabout.

Road wider and condition good.:)

Extra Advice
This area meanly cater for shipyard workers. Batter to hv a local to guide you in.

Brother I’m working here now any place to intro?

Peypey
10-11-2022, 06:11 PM
Dear brother, I’m working at batam now. Is there any short time?
Hallo bro hayhay, u can try hallo kitty
https://sbfsg.shop/showthread.php?p=21805446#post21805446
Fell free for asking, thanks you

QQ.[B]lurry
10-11-2022, 07:18 PM
Full Review of 3D2N Batam trip (7pax) on 21st Oct to 23rd Oct:

1. Took Batam Fast coz im a smoker. Batam fast is still the only ferry that have non aircon seating and smoking corner.

2. Touch down went to eat Nasi Padang at Serderhana about $10/pax.

Main IMPORTANT INFO:

3. Visited 5 Booking joints at about 130pm (Number of girls is = those in front of me exclude the ones not working or have been booked)

(a) MM - 18 girls from 1.5 juta to 2.0 juta

(b) Hera - 13 girls from 1.5 juta to 1.8 juta

(c) Sekar - 33 girls from 1.3 juta to 2.0 juta

(d) Links - 34 girls from 1.5 juta to 1.7 juta

(e) Mawar - 23 girls from 1.0 juta to 2.5 juta

I missed out Sri Kandy price and number of girls coz busy trying to snipe the girls.

Most shops are open from 10am to 10pm. Don't come too early unless weekday coz many of the girls are not ready yet too and you wont see the full attendance.

4. Check in to Davienna Boutique Hotel. 2 nights $79 (peak period). Still the best hotel for me in terms of price, hotel room space & conditions and location. Girls no need to check in and can smoke in room.

5. Then went to Halo Kitty Spa and Massage. Got parade to see. At that point of time only got 10 girls to choose from.

Hj package: 550k/600k(with shower)
Fj package: 820k/870k (with shower)

Overall price maybe a bit high. If want cheaper go to random MP and do fj with random girls for 500k++.
But for the convenience and wanna choose girl then hallo kitty is worth it. Not a time watcher place. So if u can pump longer, its more worth it.

6. Night dinner at Wei Wei seafood at harbourbay. Order alot of food crabs especially and some beers until cant finish the crabs. Per pax is about $52. Worth it.

7. After dinner went to M1 ktv. Madness quality there. Parade got about 35+ girls at least to choose from at about 10pm. Girls price for seating divided into 2 categories: 800k & 1 juta. Not much difference maybe 1 juta one slightly more hot or old bird. For overnight that u have to decide and discuss with the girl itself maybe 2.5juta to 5juta. Ordered 5 bottles of black label. Total dmg exclude girl is $140/pax just for drinks. Way cheaper than going to viet ktv in sg.
No tip for mamasan or waiter.

8. Yong Kee Fish Soup for Lunch for day 2. Best fish soup in batam for me. with other few dishes about $10/pax. After that find booking for cewek. As usual for saturday not much good quality choices but if can always book the day before too.

9. Then we went to Octopus Spa at Pacific hotel. Got 1 for 1 package for massage with hj for 275k. if alone then its 375k. Fj package is either 800k for gold tier or 1.1 juta for Platinum tier. Girls quality for fj way better than Hallo kitty.

10. End up at Bluefire Disco at night to chill. Suppose to go Hollywing but fullhouse for sofa. Need reservation for a Saturday night there.


Next Batam trip is on 27 Nov to 29 Nov. If you wanna join me can hit me up at my telegram {edited by mod - personnal contact not allwed in sbf} I got private driver too for a good price. No need trouble urself find grab, gojek etc.

My view on Batam is: BATAM is BACK to where its suppose to be!!!!!!!!!

Jas28
10-11-2022, 07:57 PM
Booking joint can try memory ktv
Also can try the new morena booking joint

Morena Joint is near which shopping mall or hotel? Thk

hayhay
10-11-2022, 08:19 PM
518865

I am here, so many Singaporean

retirebatam
10-11-2022, 09:30 PM
The old hallo kitty massage shop pre-covid has been refurbished and changed name to Hallo Kitty Spa & Massage. ;)

Nowadays massage shop like to add the word spa to the massage shop to sound more atas. The price of massage had also been revised and there are basically 4 types of package:

Type 1 - Massage with handjob in normal room 270k

Type 2 - Massage with handjob in VIP room with shower at 300k

Type 3 - Full sex package in normal room 550k

Type 4 - Full sex package in VIP room with shower at 600k

(I could not remember the duration for the above 4 packages, can anyone advise thanks) I went there but did not try the package as I had just finished my massage session at new home spa at golden gate hotel. :D

As you entered into the shop, you will be shown a mobile phone for the photos of the massage cewek.

Alternatively, if you are not there yet and wish to book for a later appointment time, you may book the cewek through whatsapp or mobile number.

In my opinion, cewek number 17, 77 & 100 look quite nice. :)



lurry;21811468']

5. Then went to Halo Kitty Spa and Massage. Got parade to see. At that point of time only got 10 girls to choose from.

Hj package: 550k/600k(with shower)
Fj package: 820k/870k (with shower)

Overall price maybe a bit high. If want cheaper go to random MP and do fj with random girls for 500k++.
But for the convenience and wanna choose girl then hallo kitty is worth it. Not a time watcher place. So if u can pump longer, its more worth it.


Bro, the 550k and 600k package maybe is a FJ package not a HJ package because when I was there last month, i have confirmed with the counter staff of halo kitty.

Massage with handjob package is 270k and 300k(room with shower).

The price of (massage with handjob inclusive) at halo kitty is about the same as hotel golden gate at 285k. :)

Among those massage joints around dc mall area, halo kitty massage has one of the most good looking cewek..

retirebatam
10-11-2022, 11:04 PM
I have considered to prostitute myself with old ladies to collect money to pay young prostitutes, but this business is difficult.:D


In fact I don't mind to get played by an old lady if I can get paid.

Even ugly lady also I don't mind too.

But never ever a fat lady because it just turned my little brother off :D

Old lady may be pretty when she was young. Applying some facial cosmetics and wearing appropriate dressing can look younger too. So old lady to me not an issue..

Ugly lady can become less ugly if she knows how to make up. Sometimes looking at the ugly lady at different angles may find her less ugly. (example : side view)

But fat lady will always be fat looking no matter how you look at her. It takes time to become thin, and that's a no no for me. :D


I was used to go there every day on my first travels to Batam during afternoons. More recently, I have become lazy and I have always spent my afternoons looking at local girls from my table at JCo at Nagoya Hill Mall.


I noticed that in general, there are more bule than asian uses the gym. Most of the westerners are interested / keen in building up muscles and do cardio exercise

In fact strength training like carry weight and high intensity training can boost the testosterone level in the body and can help prevent premature ejaculation and erectile dysfunction.

So with high testosterone in the body, it also helps to sustain sex for a longer period of time and increase the satisfaction level of the man.

For us asian, we boost our sex drive by taking tongkat ali and herbal black chicken soup and tonic...:p

Sometimes, I do take supplement from GNC like horny goat weed to improve my sex performance as it is herbal, therefore less or no side effect.

Viagra and Cialis will be the last resort if herbal supplement cannot helps because it has side effects, need prescription to buy and more expensive.


How old is her daughter now? :)
Seriously, I have been in love with Sinta for many years. Her smile was my welcome to Formosa, which meant Batam for me.


Many years ago the staff at formosa told me that she need to take care of her teenage daughter.

Probably the daughter is in her 20s right now. Yes, she had a sweet smile and will always make you feel welcome to formosa.. :D


I still have my Formosa Gold Card in my plastic envelope where I keep IDR left over the last trip. First of all, it is like a trophy for me. Second, who knows if it will be still useful...

The gold card can be kept as a collection that brings back memory.

Yes, maybe the new hotel may allow formosa card in exchange to the new hotel membership card if it implement in the future. :)

QQ.[B]lurry
10-11-2022, 11:55 PM
Bro, the 550k and 600k package maybe is a FJ package not a HJ package because when I was there last month, i have confirmed with the counter staff of halo kitty.

Massage with handjob package is 270k and 300k(room with shower).

The price of (massage with handjob inclusive) at halo kitty is about the same as hotel golden gate at 285k. :)

Among those massage joints around dc mall area, halo kitty massage has one of the most good looking cewek..

Not sure when u went. But that was the menu I saw with my eyes.

Anyway telegram and sbf their menu also this new price. No further discount given even if come in large pax.

I was there. No point I say a different price.

Anyway, for hj girl only take 100k and fk girl take 350k. Best is give them some tips upon asking for their contact etc. 50k - 100k no harm giving if service is good.

Black Page
11-11-2022, 12:18 AM
Viagra and Cialis will be the last resort if herbal supplement cannot helps because it has side effects, need prescription to buy and more expensive.

Not the last resort, but the only real medicine that helps erection. You will not replace an antibiotic with herbal supplements...
BTW, I bought some generic Sildenafil in Batam because my old supply is expired already (bought before COVID in Colombia). No prescription is asked, but it is damn expensive: some 100k (small farmacy) or 80k (big farmacy) per 100 mg pill, which means some 4 S$ per one normal dose (50mg).
In Colombia, I was used to stock up paying less than 0.40 S$ for that.

Hurricane88
11-11-2022, 06:15 AM
This shop?

[CENTER] New shop (same location)


Thanks bro...:)

Today USD dropped and SGD can get 11200 rupiah...:)

BFOMF5
11-11-2022, 10:25 AM
Booking joint can try memory ktv
Also can try the new morena booking joint
Beside Lovina Inn, ops top 100 nagoya.
As at last night they have only 8 girls.
Open quote price 1.7j at 3pm
Down to 1.5 at 10pm

flex0rnaut
11-11-2022, 01:51 PM
lurry;21811468']Full Review of 3D2N Batam trip (7pax) on 21st Oct to 23rd Oct:


Next Batam trip is on 27 Nov to 29 Nov. If you wanna join me can hit me up at my telegram {edited by mod - personnal contact not allwed in sbf} I got private driver too for a good price. No need trouble urself find grab, gojek etc.

My view on Batam is: BATAM is BACK to where its suppose to be!!!!!!!!!


Thanks for the amazing batam report bro!

vichie
11-11-2022, 09:58 PM
lurry;21811468']Full Review of 3D2N Batam trip (7pax) on 21st Oct to 23rd Oct:


Thanks for the info bro! will be going next week, hoping can have awesome experience as well and share later :)

HeatguyAlvin
11-11-2022, 11:42 PM
Not the last resort, but the only real medicine that helps erection.

btw you can skip having the need for prescription by buying from teledocs like thesire in SG. But yes more expensive then buying it in btm.

HeatguyAlvin
11-11-2022, 11:45 PM
Yeah bro Blackpage. Like mj, pay to learn.

tbh i think i said this many times but in btm, better to see and book. Pacific disco there also alot of FLs what. Got quoted 300-500k for st and up to 2.5m for lt.

Tried an ST once by meeting her at hotel lobby, nothing fishy happened.

HeatguyAlvin
11-11-2022, 11:45 PM
lurry;21811468']

My view on Batam is: BATAM is BACK to where its suppose to be!!!!!!!!!

this recce report solid. good to see batam alive again. Have been checking out my old spots in JB as well + geylang for the first time and was quite surprised to find quite solid young ones at budget prices for a change of view but i think with the cheap seafood and everything, btm still one of my favorite spots :D. only ferry ticket price abit sian.

nono1973
12-11-2022, 09:57 AM
Not in batam, it is 4hr boat from sekupang...

Oh, that is really very faraway. Required to step out of the main Batam island.

Selat Panjang, hv a lot of Chinese temples like batam Balai. But one unique thing is... most temples here would hv this giant candle.

Yes, i have seen these candles around which can burn as high as few years with 1 lit in Batam.

Very unique indeed. Not something where one can see in Singapore.

I always have in mind to bring one of those back to Singapore tho. But well, the weight can be scary. :D

When I was doing my Market walk.(Is my habit...every town I go I must go market to mingle with the locals) I saw some workers was unloading some giant candles and incense (undecorated). then I learn that this is the factory that customise and supplying all temples in this region. Unfortunately due to time factors I hv no chance to see how they decorate it.

I enjoy going to the market too.

Only in their local market can one really see the true color of Batam socially. How their local lives their lives, their mindset, culture, behavior etc.

Batam isn't just about a quickie for me today anymore.

May be I will return in December for my Makao-Hei feast....
at the same time... see how they decorated it.

I will need to plan as far as Jan 2023.

CNY, i am wondering, where should i be now that Formosa is gone.

Its going to be my 1st CNY without Formosa. In the past, there are many options there, from Alishan to fireworks to temples and so on. This time round will be very different.

Girl wise not a problem. Already napped a handful on hand in my last few trips.

nono1973
12-11-2022, 10:08 AM
Yes bro. Those were the days. Still remember with S$200 i could stay 3D2N. Thats why i dont like the idea of getting more rupiahs from exchange cos hotel, cewek, food and now ferry fares, would surely rise in tandem! So it really doesnt benefit me. I would rather the currency remain stable.

Hehehe...likewise for the rest of the world. i can buy an apple for S$0.50, but few years later the same apple will no longer cost S$0.50. The truth is, no one can stop such trend, bro. Yes, absolutely no one. Unless there is a natural or man-made disaster or something.

When i 1st go Batam (about 10 years ago, & i have got record that in this thread), exchange rate only 8000+/SGD. Today its like 11200/SGD or around there.

Overnight booking girls used to be like 500k rupiah, which is the lowest i could find in general at those time. Today...hehehe...i think no need me to repeat on this one.

Anyway, lowest i can find is 800k rupiah so far.

If your interest earned can subsidize your spending for the whole year that means your principle amount must be huge ya.:D

Bro,hehehe...you only got to Batam mostly for 2D1N base on the last round you shared here. Spare cash S$100k in FD will give you around S$3100+ next year. Thats S$258+ a month, enough to cover for all your trip inclusive of a girl, hotel, ferry & food already. Some more, you don't go every month.

For my case, it is just "subsidizing" my trip, not covering it all tho. ;)

nono1973
12-11-2022, 10:38 AM
And to answer your question. Yes, you should change rupiah in Batam.



Only time of the year where i don't change rupiah in Batam is the 1st week of CNY in Batam. Those time, changing in Singapore is better.

Reason, during CNY 1st few days, more than 50% of money changer is closed. Ferry terminal & Airport (in both Singapore & Batam) has the worst ever exchange rate.

Have a good trip!

This trip not bad.

Eyeing at a "virgin" girl now. :p

Going to be my 1st "virgin" in Batam.

If you didn’t mentioned that formosa had a sauna room, I don’t even know that it existed.

Is it hidden inside king’s massage parlour at level 4 ? :D

King’s massage had a staircase shortcut that leads to level 3.

I only know that there was a under-utilized gym in formosa hotel hidden near the staircase of level 3 at one corner if not mistaken.

Shows not many people look into a hotel thoroughly,hehehe...you guys are not the only people who didn't know. I shared them here before but just briefly,hehehe...whatever i shared here "briefly" is my "key" word to note in this thread. Then others cannot say i didn't share.

I shared, just briefly. But when i indulge in a place, i go through them thoroughly.

It is beside Kings, need to walk past the Gym to get to the sauna.

For a short period of years, i actually controlled some of the surveillance in Formosa Hotel too, hehehe...that i didn't share here. Even if i do, no one will believe me anyway. (that is one reason why i like Formosa so much more than anyone here)

How i did that happened was by accident too.

Long long time ago (in my 1st few trips), "Formosa has an internet cafe" aka computer to use by their reception area side (at 5k rupiah per hour)....ok, not going to look into the details.

Yes, (never try never know) it is good to always try out new hotel, grade them according to different tiers and put under your favourite hotel list if it satisfied your expectation.

百闻不如一见 See for oneself is better than hearing from others a hundred times.

Choosing the right hotel is important as it can made our stay more comfortable and gives us a good mood.

Yes, i always tells my friends, the most suitable for oneself is the best. You no like fat girls, i recommend you a super beautiful BBW in Batam also no use, right?

Sometime I will review the hotel room I have stayed before, will record down the room number for the good one, whereas lousy one will be blacklisted hehe

I also records them, just that i do that in this Batam info Thread. As long as SBF not down, my Batam 10 years track records (Batam summaries) will always be here.

From a newbie to batam until what i am today,hehehe...to a newbie-want-to-be today.

Not bad at least you were able to cheong for free previously. :p

I think for me to really enjoy staying in batam without worrying for money will have to wait till my retirement age which is another 10 over years from now as I am only in my late fourties

I think our age quite close, mentality of cheonging also quite close. You & me in SBF also a bit loh soh & enjoying going into details (buy i don't mind chubby girls).

I improvise a bit, i use the girls with me to help me cover my cheonging cost, i look at their "interest", use them to help me make money to "subsidize" my trips.

Example, I pay OKT 1.5 juta of booking her overnight, the girl help me make 500k rupiah, cost of booking become 1 juta. ;)

Above is only example, i am not pimping the girls in Batam. Its legal work without harming them (gonna say this here in case some wise guy start slamming me).

No going to elaborate on this as i shared this before, hehehe....

Ok, time for my 4 hands massage appointment. Will be back later to share...if time allows it.

lawry
12-11-2022, 11:24 AM
Hi
All the old birds of batam. What is a nice hotel to stay in batam? Thanks

kum69
12-11-2022, 12:30 PM
Hi
All the old birds of batam. What is a nice hotel to stay in batam? Thanks

I am looking to stay at Hans Inn. Any old birds stayed here before?

lincoln3010
12-11-2022, 01:29 PM
Nice hotels to stay

Biz Hotel

Harmoni Suites

Batam 1

Paragon Hotel

Swiss Bell

M1

Aston

nitecrawllerr
12-11-2022, 02:09 PM
btw you can skip having the need for prescription by buying from teledocs like thesire in SG.

At TBK the customs will confiscate and make you pay kopi money. They can detect enhancement pills fm their xray machine. But btm no idea. Maybe they allow or close one eye.

nitecrawllerr
12-11-2022, 08:56 PM
Anyway, lowest i can find is 800k rupiah so far.

Wow. Still have affordable price ya. FL or fm joint?:cool:

HeatguyAlvin
13-11-2022, 02:40 AM
At TBK the customs will confiscate and make you pay kopi money. They can detect enhancement pills fm their xray machine. But btm no idea. Maybe they allow or close one eye.

tried several times and am sure btm the customs never open their eyes :D

Ninja_Assassin
13-11-2022, 04:53 AM
tried several times and am sure btm the customs never open their eyes :D

Batam immigrasi/customs seems to have changed their attitudes. Unlike pre-covid times the present batch of officers are not looking for undertable $$$ or purposely going out to find fault with you. They are more professional now and do their jobs by the book.

I asked an oldtimer Batam resident who was a retired civil servant about the changes in attitude of the immigrasi/customs. He told me that now the personnel are not locals but are brought in from other Indonesian provinces on rotation..... each batch usually stay about 2 yrs before rotating back to their home province.

nitecrawllerr
13-11-2022, 08:23 AM
tried several times and am sure btm the customs never open their eyes :D

Good to hear that.;)

nono1973
13-11-2022, 11:00 AM
Who knows maybe the courteous, smiling Sinta will be back to the new hotel, which her children whom she had to take care years ago may have already grown up.

Can be hopeful but better not keep expectation too high. :D

Likewise for the rest of the hotel service level as they were run by different different management altogether.

The good vibes there will be mainly to see familiar faces.


I remembered you have achieve the gold card status.

I have both the physical silver & gold card tho, but rarely the chance to use them. The staffs there already recognized my face before i could take out my card. Normally when i join my friends or vice versa, i would pass those cards to them so they can get 15-20% on hotel food (include room service), massage & in Tea story.

I asked the hotel to give me A FEW MORE GOLD cards, hehehe...they turned me down. :D

Little did we know that formosa can close shop during that time

True...it really comes as a surprise to me.

Before they close shop, while i browse at advertisement of apartments to buy in Batam online & chanced on Formosa going up for sale. I even checked with Riki & he got no idea of it.

Few months later, the news broke out that hotel was closed.

Until today i still cannot figure out how a hotel with such good business & regulars can close down.

There are also quite a lot of people there "Long-Stay" in that hotels at a premium price too (usually on 3rd floor).


Because those safe box in the room can be carried away by strong burglar whereas formosa's centralised safe box is in the room jaga by the staff

Formosa's centralised safe box makes more sense to me.

To date, i cannot understand why the need for those safe box in Batam hotel room.

I mean since strong burglars can just carry them away, whats the point of it being there? Just to feel safe but NOT actually safe? If you are a burglar, where will you start looking in when you broke into a hotel room? A lot of things require some level of common sense. :D

Most of the safe box in hotel rooms i stayed in were more like a shoe box for me. I keep my shoe inside & then lock it up. When i need to step up of room, i unlock it, take it out, wear it & step out. (i rarely do that nowaday because its rather inconvenient if i need to rush,hehehe...)

The only useful thing i could think of for safe inside room is to prevent scent of my shoe from flowing all over the room. Especially my socks scent,hehehe....i create my own in-room safe.

If you read my Batam reviews before, you probably would know i build a "safe" inside the toilet bath tub at Formosa hotel,hehehe... :p

Black Page
13-11-2022, 06:18 PM
At TBK the customs will confiscate and make you pay kopi money. They can detect enhancement pills fm their xray machine. But btm no idea. Maybe they allow or close one eye.
tried several times and am sure btm the customs never open their eyes :D

That must be an urban legend. Xray cannot detect the difference between viagra and aspirine.
Every time I cross the borders between Singapore, Indonesia, Malaysia, as well dozens of countries worldwide in all continents, I have a plastic bag (supermarket medium size) full of medicins of all types in my luggage. It's my emergency kit, in case I fall sick: antibiotics, painkiller, for cold, for fever, for wounds in case of accident, for this and that... OF course, I have also my sildenafil supply for the trip.
I was NEVER questioned, of course, and I am speaking not of a box of pills, but of a bag full of boxes. It's clearly for my personal use, not for reselling.


Until today i still cannot figure out how a hotel with such good business & regulars can close down.
Really? I am surprised you say that.
The reason was COVID!
The owner of Formosa, Chinese from Taiwan, looked at PRC and understood before any other in Indonesia, and in most of the world, the storm that was approaching. He closed and ran away with money just 1 month before the lockdowns and border closures stopped any hotel business for 2 years. Many people lost all money, people lost job and savings, but not him. He ran away with all cash before the ship sank, leaving all workers without a job and a lot of people without their legitimate money. Smart but damn man.


Formosa's centralised safe box makes more sense to me.
To date, i cannot understand why the need for those safe box in Batam hotel room.
Also here, I am surprised.
There are no such burglars in Batam. They do not come with heavy tools to take your box out of the wall.
The purpose of the safety box in the room (better in the room than centralized!) is to have a place where to keep your passport and money when unknown people comes to visit you and spend the night there.
Whenever I have someone in my room, I want to go to shower relaxed without fearing I lose my money because one of the girls takes it from the drawer. The safety box (in the room) is ESSENTIAL.

NOTE: if there is no safety box in the room, and the centralized box is not convenient for things one wants to put and take quickly, the alternative is the luggage. Put your precious things in the luggage, close the zip and add security code. The girl will not leave the room overnight while you sleep, taking your big bag.
(I know you don't have a big luggage, so you have to excavate in the wall of the bathroom... Well, I prefer the safety box :D)

HeatguyAlvin
14-11-2022, 01:25 AM
Whenever I have someone in my room, I want to go to shower relaxed without fearing I lose my money because one of the girls takes it from the drawer. The safety box (in the room) is ESSENTIAL.

i think they are mostly referring to when you are not in your room and given some 3 to 4 star hotels or those even lower stars do not mount their safety boxes. When they don't mount it, it can be just carried away by anyone strong enough to do so without tools.

flex0rnaut
14-11-2022, 01:42 AM
Any regulars have some quick short-time (1hr) joints at BCS mall / grand mall?

I'll be at the BCC hotel this dec ;)

HeatguyAlvin
14-11-2022, 10:43 AM
Any regulars have some quick short-time (1hr) joints at BCS mall / grand mall?

I'll be at the BCC hotel this dec ;)

DC mall is nearby with the stretch across...

nono1973
14-11-2022, 01:44 PM
On my last trip, I made the Deal of the Year: I booked Four Points by Marriott for some S$45/day 5-6 months before my trip, when just one month before my trip the price had increased to S$90.

Good deal indeed.

During July, when Singapore opens up, i recommended a few closer friends from Batam to sign up for HSBC credit card to get the FREE S$500 credit from Marriot group of hotels.

They were able to use it to stay in Marriot for about 2 nights OR in Four Points for 10,hehehe...all of them choose the latter (10 nights free stay at about S$50 a night). :D

Really, as RetireBatam, I did not even know about that!
And I have been to Formosa so many times over 10 years (Gold Member status, ehehe).

Mentioned here in the thread many times, but i only do so briefly.

If too many people gets to know about it, the game won't be nice anymore. ;)

I have considered to prostitute myself with old ladies to collect money to pay young prostitutes, but this business is difficult.

Why not do it the other way around?

Prostituting yourself to the younger ones and save you all the trouble to pay them again, hehehe... :p

No wonder you said in your other post (as below's quote), the girl leaving her friend to you alone saying, ""HEY YOU MUST GIVE HER MONEY OK???"". :D


- A golf caddy in Pacific. Really new and clean. Her friend was worried and left her to me but recommending "HEY YOU MUST GIVE HER MONEY OK???"


Do you see the potential i see on you with those younger girls? :rolleyes:

Her friend must be worried that she may pay you instead, hehehe...

iPIAKPIAK
14-11-2022, 01:59 PM
Many years never been to Batam. Going with friends next month. How much is the 2-ways ticket now?

iPIAKPIAK
14-11-2022, 02:00 PM
How much to book a girl overnight?

nono1973
14-11-2022, 02:24 PM
Wah bro u fierce. This type of trap u also can play.

Hi hi bro, this is not just only for the girls, its for the rest of the others working inside hotel too, eg Housekeeping staffs cleaning my room, waitresses who bring me food etc.

Next time if got chance (or fate) to meet up, will pass you one piece of those S$1000 notes to play with too (the 2 notes still with me until the end of my trip). :p


What I learnt:

1. Those that ask for you sg number or deposit, just ignore. Highly likely scammers.

2. Picture too chio or obviously photoshopped, 99.95% fake.

3. Always state beforehand that if person turning up not same as photo, will reject and no rejection/taxi fee. This will stop those trying to earn a quick freebie. To be used with next point.

4. If they pass all the above checkpoints, they will ask for your hotel and room number and hotel registration name. ALWAYS give a fake room number and name. State that you will meet them at the lobby. This will give you a chance to check if they are real without being in a compromised position.

Honestly, I feel it's a waste of time to have to do all that for small or nil returns, but if you have time and feel lucky...


Good advise above, for those who are new & chose to be adventurous without exercising some common sense.

To me, Batam is like a bed of roses.

But i cannot forget Rose often (always) comes with thorns too.

Any regulars have some quick short-time (1hr) joints at BCS mall / grand mall?

If too lazy to think and source (and have lots of money to spare), simply call Hallo Kitty shop. They will come pick you up & drop you back to where they pick you up from.

Only thing is 1 hour time frame may not be enough.

I'll be at the BCC hotel this dec

Bro, you are already there. BCC has a MP too. But quite highly priced.

Need to budget about 1 juta for a shot, therefore they're just as good as Hallo Kitty in terms of pricing. Require negotiation with therapist too (meaning you will be the one to pop the GQ, not her).

Info on BCC above is base on pre-covid time, don't know MP still around or not tho.

Alternatively, there's still Venew Spa at BCH & Justme at Gideon in that area.

You still need at least 1.5 hour on all the above mentioned places tho.

May need to explore a bit.

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Anyone here got a photo of Sekar Massage which is situated opposite Hana Hotel? I will need your permission to use them too, thank you.

I remember i have one but i lost it somewhere...hmm... :(

Black Page
14-11-2022, 07:15 PM
Do you see the potential i see on you with those younger girls? :rolleyes:
Her friend must be worried that she may pay you instead, hehehe...

Not really... I think there is quite a number of a$$holes, especially white, who believe paying deprives their male honor and therefore believe girls will spend the night with them after partying at the club just because they are handsome.

It may be true, often it is, but "netiquette" says we should leave money in the morning, even if the girl is so nice and polite (or so naive) to not speak about money in advance. After all, not speaking about money before going to the room is very nice, because it makes the man to believe that it is not prostitution and makes the night another type of experience.

However, not leaving money in the morning is something really bad. It means taking advantage of a lady who honestly believed to have some fun AND make cash to improve her financial situation for a while.

flex0rnaut
14-11-2022, 07:33 PM
Bro, you are already there. BCC has a MP too. But quite highly priced.

Need to budget about 1 juta for a shot, therefore they're just as good as Hallo Kitty in terms of pricing. Require negotiation with therapist too (meaning you will be the one to pop the GQ, not her).



Wow! I've been patronizing bcc for years and I DID NOT know that..

I was never a massage guy hence why I wouldn't know. You just piqued my interest but maybe for the price, I'll just find some FLs.

I've inquired with hallo kitty through whatsapp and its okay, still having my options open.

AG8238217
15-11-2022, 08:08 AM
Im also a regular at BCC, was there last week. The old spa is closed, theres a new company that took over .


Wow! I've been patronizing bcc for years and I DID NOT know that..

I was never a massage guy hence why I wouldn't know. You just piqued my interest but maybe for the price, I'll just find some FLs.

I've inquired with hallo kitty through whatsapp and its okay, still having my options open.
520169

nitecrawllerr
15-11-2022, 09:02 AM
520169

Aaram twin girls. Looks interesting.:D:D

goldie9660
15-11-2022, 09:22 AM
(a) MM - 18 girls from 1.5 juta to 2.0 juta

(b) Hera - 13 girls from 1.5 juta to 1.8 juta

(c) Sekar - 33 girls from 1.3 juta to 2.0 juta

(d) Links - 34 girls from 1.5 juta to 1.7 juta

(e) Mawar - 23 girls from 1.0 juta to 2.5 juta[/COLOR]:mad:



Hi bros, I am trying to Google and Google Map these locations for my next trip but don't really know where they are. It will be nice if bros here can provide more details on these locations.

As I don't really visit Batam during pre-Covid, hence, I will need your guidance.

kanelo75
15-11-2022, 10:11 AM
Hi bros, I am trying to Google and Google Map these locations for my next trip but don't really know where they are. It will be nice if bros here can provide more details on these locations.

As I don't really visit Batam during pre-Covid, hence, I will need your guidance.
get a local driver and he will bring you around.

Naka_Timo
15-11-2022, 10:23 AM
lurry;21811468']Full Review of 3D2N Batam trip (7pax) on 21st Oct to 23rd Oct:


Next Batam trip is on 27 Nov to 29 Nov. If you wanna join me can hit me up at my telegram {edited by mod - personnal contact not allwed in sbf} I got private driver too for a good price. No need trouble urself find grab, gojek etc.

My view on Batam is: BATAM is BACK to where its suppose to be!!!!!!!!!

Nice share

518865

I am here, so many Singaporean

Nice, what the name of this place?

HeatguyAlvin
15-11-2022, 10:53 AM
Nice, what the name of this place?

A2 foodcourt. Edit just realized the place name is in the photo what 😂😂😂.

Next to BCC or I Hotel

Hurricane88
15-11-2022, 10:55 AM
Nice, what the name of this place?

Famous A2 foodcourt in Penuin near BCS...:)

maddog_mlvn
15-11-2022, 11:07 AM
Famous A2 foodcourt in Penuin near BCS...:)

A2 is not near to BCS, It next to BCS, divided by a small lane.

Hurricane88
15-11-2022, 11:13 AM
A2 is not near to BCS, It next to BCS, divided by a small lane.

Ok lao da...taken note...my favorite afternoon beer time...:)

HeatguyAlvin
15-11-2022, 11:21 AM
Hi bros, I am trying to Google and Google Map these locations for my next trip but don't really know where they are.

It should be along the same small (former formosa area, along hotel hallo batam) and big (behind DC Mall, where hallo kitty is also located) booking circuit. Unless they shifted.

Naka_Timo
15-11-2022, 11:22 AM
Famous A2 foodcourt in Penuin near BCS...:)

Ok, i know already. thanks bro

Naka_Timo
15-11-2022, 11:22 AM
A2 is not near to BCS, It next to BCS, divided by a small lane.

Noted too. thanks

nono1973
15-11-2022, 01:28 PM
Hi bros, I am trying to Google and Google Map these locations for my next trip but don't really know where they are. It will be nice if bros here can provide more details on these locations.

As I don't really visit Batam during pre-Covid, hence, I will need your guidance.

You may wish to look through this old mapping first :

https://sbf.net.nz/showpost.php?p=15775175&postcount=6277

While a handful of those shops may have closed down or renamed, there are new ones too.

I am still in the middle of remapping out all the stuffs.

Just a quick guide if you are willing to look through the above mapping.

1. MM is still in the mapping on the enclosed link.

2. Hera is beside Sweet Massage & they are in the mapping link too.

3. Sekar is opposite Hana Hotel, this one you need to google Hana Hotel. Its old name is called New Berry (also in the mapping link).

4. The Link KTV also need to google. You will get a map if you google on this one.

5. Mawar is directly opposite DC Mall & its old name is call Bunga in the old mapping link.

6. Memory KTV is at Memory Hotel, need to google.

7. Sri Kandy is also in the mapping link.

Basically, if you take a taxi to Biz Hotel, try to look for Utama Hotel. Otherwise just drop at Utama Hotel (this hotel closed down but building still there).

Walk the entire Utama Hotel ONE ROUND, you will be able to locate Mawar, Hera, Sri Kandy & MM (thats already 4 overnight booking joint) base on the enclosed map link .

https://sbf.net.nz/showpost.php?p=15775175&postcount=6277

Note : Hallo Kitty is not a overnight booking joint.

However, there is a new overnight booking joint mentioned by bro BFOMF5 too. Sorry, i don't have a name for the place hence just show picture without any name for now. But location is stated below :

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Side note : Hiring a Taxi to any booking joint, KTVs, massage place or any entertainment places in Batam equates to about 20% higher in price.

Beside Lovina Inn, ops top 100 nagoya.
As at last night they have only 8 girls.
Open quote price 1.7j at 3pm
Down to 1.5 at 10pm

It is at the old Queen8933 booking joint location which closed down a very long time ago. 10 o'clock from Formosa Hotel, beside Lovinna Inn Nagoya.

The above should help if you read the provide the link & my post here.

A bit inconvenient for now, but should be better once i finish up my Batam re-mapping.

Aaram twin girls. Looks interesting.

If the new shop is Aaram, then 100% got plus plus, hehehe... :p

Only thing is, it is very expensive. And they do not pop GQ. Customer need to pop the GQ first. :(

This MP used to be at Amir Hotel at Harbour Bay. Amir Hotel closed & i didn't know they moved to BCC,hehehe... got a bro who shared in this thread tried them before. He even got the same girl to do the massage in their posted advertisement too. :p

Their plus plus is very expensive too.
(my definition of "very" expensive can be different from other bros here)

miumiu6464
15-11-2022, 01:31 PM
Hi bros, I am trying to Google and Google Map these locations for my next trip but don't really know where they are. It will be nice if bros here can provide more details on these locations.

As I don't really visit Batam during pre-Covid, hence, I will need your guidance.

Sekar: opposite Hana Hotel
Mawar: opposite DC Mall where there's a row of shop house.

These 2 landmark you should be able to pin point on Google Map.

The rest i don't how to describe given that you're not really familiar with Batam... As another bro mentioned, your best bet is a local driver, or team up friends who are familiar with Batam..

miumiu6464
15-11-2022, 01:32 PM
Nice share



Nice, what the name of this place?

A2 Foodcourt.

nyquist
15-11-2022, 01:40 PM
A2 Foodcourt.

Are u currently residing in Batam now?

nono1973
15-11-2022, 02:02 PM
Today USD dropped and SGD can get 11200 rupiah...:)

Yes, i already change 11150/SGD at Grand Batam Mall, then realize next day can change 11200/SGD. :o

Lucky difference isn't a big gap, hehehe... :p

I lost 50 rupiah/SGD. :(

I used to get my haircut (cut & wash + face-wash) for 100k rupiah which back then was around S$10.

Now, i pay less than S$9.00 for the exact same thing. :p

Nice, what the name of this place?

Hehehe...i was smiling at your question at first & then when i see the replies thereafter, i can't help but burst out laughing. :D

Good question with all the correct reply.

Hope the place still serve the buaya satay (crocodile satay).

nitecrawllerr
15-11-2022, 05:27 PM
If the new shop is Aaram, then 100% got plus plus, hehehe... :p

Only thing is, it is very expensive. And they do not pop GQ. Customer need to pop the GQ first

Confirmed not cheap. Btw, how come btm dont have social escort? Ages ago my friend recommended me a cewek. Gorgeous and spoke English too. She would kip me company and brought me jalan jalan. Like social escort.:D I mean whole day in kamar also boring.

Ahwolf
15-11-2022, 07:16 PM
Any bros here got contact otaku for 18yrs old or older FL/virgin there? Im not into drinking but eating seafood and sex ..

Im going on early december..

benbee
15-11-2022, 07:52 PM
today exchange rate at batam center ferry terminal, 11300, $200 they offer 11250 when i say $400 they offer 11300 & i got 4,520,0000. 2nd time i change with the same money changer, i feel they offer higher than those in the nagoya area from my experience.

in case any 1 interested, walk out of custom on the right 3nd money changer, chinese male staff.

kum69
15-11-2022, 07:58 PM
Sekar: opposite Hana Hotel
Mawar: opposite DC Mall where there's a row of shop house.

These 2 landmark you should be able to pin point on Google Map.

The rest i don't how to describe given that you're not really familiar with Batam... As another bro mentioned, your best bet is a local driver, or team up friends who are familiar with Batam..


All the massages in batam --- Not sure if all still active tho

1 5th Dimension Massage & Spa Batam View Hotel Jl. Hang Lekir Nongsa Batam
2 77 Massage Komp. Ruko Dian Centre Blok B No. 10
3 82 Massage Komp. Ruko Dian Centre Blok B No. 2 Lt. Ii
4 89 Massage & Spa Jl pembangunan Baloi Blok VI Penuin
5 Abi Massage Komp. Nagoya Square Blok D No. 97
6 Amola Panti Pijit Komp. Lumbung Rezeki Blok H No.7 Batam
7 Angel’s Massage Komp. Nagoya Business Centre Blok V No.32
8 Aroma Massage Jl. Laksamana Bintan Komp. Sydney Hotel
9 Bahari Massage Komp. Nagoya Square Blok D/97
10 Bali Tropikal Spa Komp. Jodoh Centre Point Blok B/3a Sei Jodoh
11 Beautiful Massage Komp. Dian Centre Blok D No.10 Nagoya
12 Beauty Moon Panti Pijit Komp. Hotel Harmoni Blok D No.6-7 Jodoh
13 Berry Indah Massage Komp. Nagoya Central Blok D/8
14 Bersih Dan Sehat Panti Pijat Komp. Pur Garden Blok A NO. 7A Lubuk Baja
15 Best & Better Massage Komp. Paradise Centre Blok D/7
16 Bugar Massage Central Park Blok B No. 5 Batu Aji Sagulung
17 Cahaya 2 Massage Komp. Jodoh Trade Centre Blok C No.4
18 Cantika Massage Komp. Ruko Nagoya Garden Blok E No. 3
19 Cempaka Indah Panti Pijat Komp. Orchid Mas Blok A No. 15
20 Chelsia Massage Komp. Ruko Marina City No. 21 Batam
21 China Town Massage Komp. Nagoya Paradise Centre Blok P/03
22 Cinta Selaras Panti Pijat Komp. Rezeki Citra Graha Mas No.7-8
23 Capacabanas Panti Pijat Jl. Raja Ali Haji Blok E No.10 Batam
24 Crown Massage Ruko Mercu Lautan Indah No.11 Lb. Baja
25 CV Hade Gropindo Komp. Ruko Dian Centre Blok A No. 12
26 Delta Spa & Health Centre Komp. Nagoya Hill Supermall Blok J No.27
27 Elline Massage Komp. Ruko Square 91 Blok C Batu Selicin
28 Enjoy Inn Massage Komp. Tj. Pantun Blok M No.6
29 Enjoy Inn Massage Komp. Tj. Pantun Blok M No. 06
30 Eska Wellnes Spa Massage Ruko Nagoya Hill R4 F3
31 Fani Massage Komp. Kios Pasar Lancang Kuning 1
32 First Choice Massage Komp. Penuin Centre Blok Oa No. 12
33 Five Star 2 Massage Komp. Ruko Nagoya Hill Blok E1-E2
34 Five Star Massage Komp. Ruko Nagoya Hill Blok G No.17
35 Flamboyan Massage Komp. Nagoya Paradise Blok N/12
36 Flower Massage Centre & Spa Komp. Nagoya New Town Blok F No.7
37 Fortune Massage Komp. Ruko Nagoya 2000 No.1-2 Lubuk Baja
38 Frangipani Bali Salon & Spa Komp. Plaza TOP 100 Blok B No.3
39 Fresh Health Massage Centre Komp. Ruko Cipta Agung No.10 Batu Aji
40 Fresh Massage Komp. Ruko Jodoh Centre Poin Blok A No. 25
41 Gemilang Jaya Massage Komp. Nagoya Paradise Centre Blok J No.7
42 Genko Massage Ruko Nagoya Hill Blok F/10
43 Go Massage Komp. Nagoya Centre Blok B/ 1-2
44 Grand Atlanta Massage & Spa Komp. Pertokoan Citra Permai Blok B / 2-8
45 Grand Beauty Day Spa Komp. Mahkota Raya Blok A No.6
46 Green.W.Beauty Massage&Spa Komp. Mahkota Raya Blok F/1
47 Idola Massage Komp. PT. Mitra Centre Blok B No. 12
48 Indah 2 Massage Komp. Newtown Blok K/3-4
49 Indo Massage Jl. Raja Ali Haji, Komp. Batam Sentosa
50 Indoprima Massage Komp. Penuin Centre Blok B No. 15
51 Indothai Massage Centre Komp. Nagoya Garden Phase I Blok D No. 4
52 Isabella Massage Nagoya Hill Blok G No.5 Lubuk Baja Batam
53 Jari Indah Massage Komp. Citra Raya Blok A No.6 Kel. Bulang
54 Jasmine Massage Nagoya Business Centre Blok V No. 27
55 Java Traditional Massage Komp. Nagoya Hill Blok E No.9
56 Jogo Rogo Mandiri. CV Komp. Ruko Waheng Centre Blok A /16
57 Joy Massage BCS Mall Lt. 5 Blok A1 No.5 Lubuk Baja
58 JW Lounge Massage Bandara Hang Nadim Lt. 2
59 K8 Massage Komp. Bumi Indah Blok IV No. 21-23 Nagoya
60 Kebugaran Massage Pasar Sagulung Blok D No. 20 Kec. Sagulung
61 King Massage Komp. City Plaza Blok A No. 8 Kel. Lubuk Baja
62 Kiren Massage Komp. Ruko Roma Sumatera Blok A/04
63 Kundur Massage Komp. Windsor Square No.60 Lubuk Baja
64 Laedy Massage Jl. Duyung Komp. Puri Regency Blok A/05
65 Liminda Massage Komp. Liminda Blok B/7 Kel. Kibing
66 Linda Massage Komp. Sakura Ampan Blok F No. 11
67 Loy Kratong Massage Komp. Citra Super Mall Blok C No. 06
68 Madurani Sehati Panti Pijit Nagoya Business Centre Blok V/ 18
69 Majesty Spa & Massage Komp. Pertokoan Ruko Nagoya Hill Superblok
70 Man Zu Reflexologi Komp. Pertokoan HarbourBayMall Lt.I
71 Massage Traditional Teteh Ayu Komp. Tj. Pantun Blok L/11 Batu Ampar
72 Mawar Massage Komp. Windsor Square Blok B/7
73 Melati 888 Massage Komp. Pasar Melayu Raya Blok A/18 Batu Aji
74 Mj. Javana Massage Komp. Nagoya Business Centre Blok V No.12
75 Moon Light Massage&Reflexo Komp. New Holiday Blok D/6
76 Moon Light Massage & Spa Komp. Busines Centre Blok IV No.40
77 My Indo Thai Komp. Penuin Blok K No.2 Lubuk Baja
78 My Massage & Salon Komp. Pertokoan Penuin Centre Blok Y No.10
79 Nagoya Massage & Spa Komp. Bumi Indah Blok V No.67
80 New Berlian Batam Panti Pijit Komp. Sri Jaya Abadi Blok B No.11-12 Batam
81 New Berry Massage Komp. Ruko Nagoya Central Blok B No. 5
82 New Pas Massage Komp Nagoya City Centre Blok J No. 1 Batam
83 New Town Massage & Spa Komp. Paradise Center New Town Hotel & Spa
84 Ocean Massage Komp. Ruko Citra Supermall Blok F No. 7-9
85 Ovi Massage Komp. Batam Mas Blok E/6 Kel. Sagulung Kota
86 Paradise Massage Hotel Utama Lt.Ii Komp. Nagoya Paradise
87 Princess Massage Ruko Paradise Centre Blok P/13
88 Q Massage Komp. Nagoya Businness Centre Blok I No.32
89 Qaqiqu Reflexology Komp. Ruko 2000 No. 12 Lt.Ii Kec. Lubuk Baja
90 Queen-8933 Panti Pijit Komp. Polaris Sakti Blok A No. 7-8 Batam
91 Raffles Massage Komp. Rafles City Blok C/06
92 Relax Massage Komp. Sakura Ampan Blok F No.13 Nagoya
93 Ria Massage Pertokoan Golden Gate Blok B / 03
94 Ricson Health Massage Komp. Air Bening Blok C No.4
95 Sawandika Refleksi Massage Nagoya Hill Shopping Mall Lt.Ii Lubuk Baja
96 Swandika Refleksi. Pp Komp. Ertokoan Top 100 Blok C No. 7-8
97 Scent Massage Komp. Club House Southlinks Kel. Tiban Indah
98 Segar Jaya Massage Komp. Sp Plaza Blok 6/5 – Sagulung
99 Segar Jaya Massage Komp. Mitra Raya Blok A 1/6 Batu Aji
100 Shinta Massage Jl. Raden Patah No.3-4 Komp. Kolekta
101 Six Star Massage Ruko Harbour Bay Blok D 10-12
102 Sport Massage -I Komp. Bumi Ayu Lestari Blok A No.1-2
103 Sport Massage Centre Komp. Ruko Citra Mas B No.8 Top 100 Penuin
104 Sport Massage Centre & Spa Komp. Ruko Panbil Blok G No.15 Muka Kuning
105 Star Massage Komp. Nagoya Centre Blok B No.5
106 Time Massage Komp. Nagoya Business Center Blok IV No. 13
107 Top One Massage Komp. Nagoya New Town Blok B No.16
108 Tropical Asia Massage Komp. Paradise Center Blok E/6
109 Universal Massage Komp. Penuin Centre Blok U No.1-2
110 Utama Massage Komp. Ruko Tanjung Pantun Blok E No.I Jodoh
111 Vanessa Massage Komp. Ruko Paradise Centre Blok Q/07
112 Yummy Massage Komp. Ruko Seraya Mas Centre Blok B No.6

Jas28
15-11-2022, 08:57 PM
Below is visual guide around the golden triangle although is old but booking joint area there still relevant except for Farmosa Hotel.


unable to copy link here.

Go youtube to search for the below

Batam Red Light District: Guide to Weekend Getaway for Single Men

from Roaming Sin City

miumiu6464
15-11-2022, 09:18 PM
Are u currently residing in Batam now?

Still living in Sg, although few months back when travel to Batam reopen, we went house hunting and managed to purchase few plots of lands and house. Currently, I'm only making a trip per month..

retirebatam
15-11-2022, 09:51 PM
Gojek quote me 9000 rupiah. Streetdside ojet might quote you 25k. But, you may want to bring your shower cap in case their helmet got powerful smell. Over 10 years of taking street side ojet, i only encounter 1 who provide shower cap.

From planet holiday to nagoya hill mall if by grabride is 8500 rupiah price almost similiar to gojek 9000 rupiah. This indicated that there is really a obvious difference in the transport cost of using app vs not using app.

The difference is even greater when taking normal car services than motorcycle services. Example from point A to B normal taxi cost 70k rupiah but with app like grab or gojek may only cost about 20k. :p

The free shower cap which most hotel provided will put into good use when taking ojek with strong helmet smell..:D


Hehehe...likewise for the rest of the world. i can buy an apple for S$0.50, but few years later the same apple will no longer cost S$0.50. The truth is, no one can stop such trend, bro. Yes, absolutely no one. Unless there is a natural or man-made disaster or something.

When i 1st go Batam (about 10 years ago, & i have got record that in this thread), exchange rate only 8000+/SGD. Today its like 11200/SGD or around there.

Few years later you may still be able to buy the same type of apple at the same place at the same price at your own country currency. :p

What it means is when the price tag in rupiah increases, the sing dollar equivalent may still be the same due to rupiah depreciation. Therefore the price increase in rupiah is offset by the exchange rate drop of the rupiah.

For example: if buy an apple 10 years ago at 8000 rupiah which was at sing S$1 at that time.

10 years later which is now, it increases to 11200 rupiah which is also at sing S$1.

Hence the price in rupiah has increased but sing dollar amount remain same.

Why I can think of that was because I ever experience this situation in Johor Bahru whereby I always like to go to one of my favourite massage centre.

The massage fees will always be about sing S$20 equivalent despite having increased price few times due to the devaluation of the ringgit. :D



Bro,hehehe...you only got to Batam mostly for 2D1N base on the last round you shared here. Spare cash S$100k in FD will give you around S$3100+ next year. Thats S$258+ a month, enough to cover for all your trip inclusive of a girl, hotel, ferry & food already. Some more, you don't go every month.

For my case, it is just "subsidizing" my trip, not covering it all tho. ;)

Yes now placing money into Fix Deposit can be considered as a safe haven as it is subjected to almost zero risk and give moderate rate of return. :p

Even if the bank becomes bankrupt not to worry as the deposit insurance scheme Singapore dollar deposits are insured by the Singapore Deposit Insurance Corporation, for up to S$75,000 per depositor. :)

Black Page
15-11-2022, 11:32 PM
All the massages in batam --- Not sure if all still active tho
13 Berry Indah Massage Komp. Nagoya Central Blok D/8
80 New Berlian Batam Panti Pijit Komp. Sri Jaya Abadi Blok B No.11-12 Batam


Your list is REALLY OLD!:eek::eek:
When I saw New Berlian, I felt like travelling 10 years back on a time machine...

Black Page
15-11-2022, 11:42 PM
Any bros here got contact otaku for 18yrs old or older FL/virgin there?
Sorry, but all virgins I had on my list are not virgin anymore.

retirebatam
16-11-2022, 12:09 AM
MAS tightens monetary policy for the fifth time in a year to dampen inflation on the 14 Oct 2022 and the sing dollar on that day appreciate from 10650 to 10850 rupiah. And today 20 Oct 2022 the exchange rate for sing dollar has further appreciate to 10930 rupiah. :D

As reported in the news that USA is going to raise interest rate 2 more times by 0.75% each time, one time in november and another time in december to control their inflation. :eek:

The expected result will be the world currency will devalue again against US dollar. Then if spore tighten policy or raise interest rate again, Sing dollar will again appreciate against the rupiah

and expected that the exchange rate of sing dollar probably by then will be more than 11500 rupiah or worst liao.:)
.

Breaking news

Economists anticipate that this week the US central bank going to raise interest rate again by 0.75% to control inflation in their country.

This in turn will strengthened the US dollar and exchange rate of all other currencies are expected to fall.

Whereas for the indonesian rupiah may devalue too but not as much as the ringgit, because last week bank indonesia has raise interest rate by 0.5% to support the rupiah.

Worst scenario is that rupiah may drop by few hundred rupiah per sing dollar.

On the other hand, spore central bank uses exchange rate as its main policy tool to counter imported inflation unlike bolehland. :)

USD to SGD

If we look at the exchange rate history 3 months ago, USD$1 = S$1.37

Then over the next few weeks it has risen to the highest of USD$1 = S$1.439

Then until last few days see USD keep depreciating until today the exchange rate gone back again to USD$1 = S$1.37 (almost same as 3 months ago)

SGD to Rupiah

Similiarly few months ago the exchange rate is S$1 = 10516 rupiah

But when the exchange rate of USD against SGD has returned back to original exchange rate today, the rupiah did not return back to the rate of 10516 rupiah.

But instead it remains at S$1 = 11,372 rupiah which is a depreciation of about 850 rupiah per sing dollar after the 3 months period



520478


520479


According to news there will still be one more USA interest rate increase in December and the sing to rupiah exchange rate may hit 11500 as what I predicted few weeks ago. :)

retirebatam
16-11-2022, 01:13 AM
Your list is REALLY OLD!:eek::eek:
When I saw New Berlian, I felt like travelling 10 years back on a time machine...

This reminds me of the good old days about 10 years ago when I stayed at formosa hotel can just walk over to New Berlian less than 5min to have a short time (pronounce as "sort" time by the cewek) :p

I remembered that time the price for the short time was 250k per shot for 30 mins. The deed will be done upstairs in a small room at level 2 but the condition of the room was rather run-down. :eek:

Bro BP, if you are not from switzerland and the UK, then you must be from one of the 19 countries that joined the EU which uses the euro currency. :D

10 years ago 1 Euro = 12248 rupiah

Today 1 Euro = 16134 rupiah

Your buying power today has already increased by about one-third or 33%. :)

Ahwolf
16-11-2022, 01:16 AM
Sorry, but all virgins I had on my list are not virgin anymore.


not virgin is okay lol i just asking if have would be better. any contact can share?

Black Page
16-11-2022, 06:06 AM
short time (pronounce as "sort" time by the cewek) :p
Even better: "SORTEM" (read on an SMS)


I remembered that time the price for the short time was 250k per shot for 30 mins. The deed will be done upstairs in a small room at level 2 but the condition of the room was rather run-down.

Bro BP, if you are not from switzerland and the UK, then you must be from one of the 19 countries that joined the EU which uses the euro currency.
Indeed I remember 400k-500k for booking, but it was a old hen at New Berliam (I did not take the deal).
Yes, not a mistery, I am from Europe, I use EUR.

nitecrawllerr
16-11-2022, 08:42 AM
Yes now placing money into Fix Deposit can be considered as a safe haven as it is subjected to almost zero risk and give moderate rate of return. :p

Even if the bank becomes bankrupt not to worry as the deposit insurance scheme Singapore dollar deposits are insured by the Singapore Deposit Insurance Corporation, for up to S$75,000 per depositor. :)

Besides FD, SSB can be another source of investment with zero risk too. AAA. However its so difficult to put in big amount cos oversubscribed every month. I only managed to get 10K.

Yes. Only guaranteed up to 75K. Whereas SSB fully guaranteed. But max deposit 200K.

hayhay
16-11-2022, 12:26 PM
Still looking for ST at Batam, too bad I still don’t know the place well. Worse don’t even know the street name.

hayhay
16-11-2022, 12:31 PM
Nice share



Nice, what the name of this place?

A2 food court, yesterday nite lost my beer the fucker lady took it and I complain to the boss then they return me back, maybe I’m alone. going to try Nagoya food court next.

nono1973
16-11-2022, 12:36 PM
Still looking for ST at Batam, too bad I still don’t know the place well. Worse don’t even know the street name.

No need to know the road/street name. Actually, if someone tells me the road/street name, i don't even know what they are talking about (sorry bro, i am not bahasa indo literate).

Walk Utama Hotel or Pagoda hotel just one round, at least a choice of 15+ massage shops for you to choose from (for ST).

Biz hotel is just 5 mins walk to Utama/Pagoda hotel. Opposite Biz Hotel is Nagoya Food court.

Enjoy!

hayhay
16-11-2022, 01:13 PM
No need to know the road/street name. Actually, if someone tells me the road/street name, i don't even know what they are talking about (sorry bro, i am not bahasa indo literate).

Walk Utama Hotel or Pagoda hotel just one round, at least a choice of 15+ massage shops for you to choose from (for ST).

Biz hotel is just 5 mins walk to Utama/Pagoda hotel. Opposite Biz Hotel is Nagoya Food court.

Enjoy!

Thanks bro

nono1973
16-11-2022, 01:30 PM
Wow. Still have affordable price ya. FL or fm joint?:cool:

Should classified under FL, since the salon i visit is a clean one.

Probably works in booking joint or MP before since she knew the booking price around 1 juta (yes, i bargained downward).


Really? I am surprised you say that.
The reason was COVID!

There are other hotels with much lesser business that pulled through this covid ordeal. Which is why i cannot figure out how come Formosa couldn't do just that.

Of course, when i say the above, i am looking at the end-result today whereas what the Formosa boss looks at that point of time is uncertainty in the beginning.

The safety box (in the room) is ESSENTIAL

Come on my friend, for nearly 10 years or so, you & me on separate timeline have been living without an in-room safe box at Formosa hotel.

For me, in-room safe box is NOT essential at all. Worse, most were not "nailed" on the hotel room wall.

Note that i am saying this because we are on different role & our needs are different.

(I know you don't have a big luggage, so you have to excavate in the wall of the bathroom... Well, I prefer the safety box :D)

I read several news in Bali hotels where the burglar actually took the entire safe box away.

Things like my passport, big stash of cash ("hell notes",hehehe..) & "Patek Philippe watch" (i don't own it, i am just keeping it for the next generation) where i do not have immediately use of, i would prefer to leave it in the Formosa reception safe box. :D

Not really... I think there is quite a number of a$$holes, especially white, who believe paying deprives their male honor and therefore believe girls will spend the night with them after partying at the club just because they are handsome.


At least you are more "human" than many out there who claim, they do not need to pay the girls they bang.

Believe me, there are such people around, not just ang moh, asian & Singaporean included.

To each its own.

nono1973
16-11-2022, 02:42 PM
Few years later you may still be able to buy the same type of apple at the same place at the same price at your own country currency.

I don't know, what i know is that in my home country, my money gets smaller each day. I used to be able buy a plate of Chicken Rice for S$2.50 from same shop, same portion. Today it cost me S$4.50 and portion shrinks.

But i go Batam salon, have a hair cut + hair wash + face wash last 2-3 months ago, it cost 100k rupiah (around S$10), few days ago i go same place, same shop, same hair dresser, price still 100k rupiah but it becomes less than S$9,hehehe... :p

My favorite Budi Siang Malam chicken rice still at same price too (before & after covid period).

Yes now placing money into Fix Deposit can be considered as a safe haven as it is subjected to almost zero risk and give moderate rate of return.


Hehehe...UOB chap just called, ask me to change my placement as interest rate is 3.7-3.8% now. Go to make an appointment with him to go down to see him. I'm definitely avoiding the queue. :p

My parents once told me, they would rather GST increase to 9% immediately from the current 7%, rather than increasing it gradually 1% at a time over a period of 2 years. Their theory is an apple is S$0.50, GST up the apple will probably go up S$0.10 & become S$0.60. That is an increase of more than 1% already.

Next year GST goes up by another 1%, the S$0.60 apple will surely goes up by another don't know how much. That will make an originally S$0.50 apple pricing on 2022 goes up by nearly 50% in 2024.

Hehehe, therefore i go Batam eat lots of fruits. :p

520686

In Singapore i eat lesser fruits than i am in Batam.

520687

Apple is just illustration. I do not have apple in the shopping trolley tho,hehehe.... :D

Others go Batam eat sea food or some high end Japanese/Korean food or the sort, i go Batam eat fried rice, chicken rice, char siew rice, mix fruits etc, hehehe...food isn't my primary priority in Batam.

For me... 给我龙虾龙肉,还不如给我一盘叉烧饭。

BFOMF5
17-11-2022, 02:18 AM
.....
However, there is a new overnight booking joint mentioned by bro BFOMF5 too. Sorry, i don't have a name for the place .....
The name is "Beauty"

Heisenberg7008
17-11-2022, 06:04 PM
Hello bros, newbie doubt, me and my frd planing a trip
We got some info that weekend and weekdays price for girls got very big difference?

Is that true?

nitecrawllerr
17-11-2022, 08:18 PM
Now Sillyporeans can go to self clearance automated lane upon departure. Ppt save pages. One up for baksoland.:cool:

Jas28
17-11-2022, 08:40 PM
The name is "Beauty"

Beauty is around which hotel?

vichie
17-11-2022, 10:20 PM
Time to contribute back to this thread.

1st visit octopus@8th floor the ship like hotel.

Contacted them through whatsapp asking for which girl available and got sent lots of pics. most pics are th2 (all in package for an hour).
Took P19 cos looks totally my type, and read review on other forum she is good. For other bros can also just go there and mama-san will just parade the th2 girls (have gold and platinum, plat more expensive but better service supposedly).

Took president suite cos other bros reccomend that. Pretty big room and big bathroom, slight piss smell tho but didnt reek till bedroom. pic attached, hope it works.
https://iili.io/H9jHfjf.md.jpg (https://freeimage.host/i/H9jHfjf)


Looks wise totally my type petite, sharp feature (I think mixed), natural boobs super soft and good size (b+(?)), trimmed below. Totally syt told me she 18yrs old :eek:
Service wise she cat bath you all over, like really cat bath… pretty decent bj with ice cube, and she told me she can go as long as I want, plus point. cap on do the deed, cuddle and talk cock till phone rang then go wash. Cost is 1200k total and gave her small tips cos she is really nice. I can speak local lingo so ymmv

A bit reluctant to share afraid she got booked out! but bros before hoes :D

BFOMF5
18-11-2022, 01:12 AM
Beauty is around which hotel?
Beside Lovina inn nagoya

Jas28
18-11-2022, 05:44 PM
Beside Lovina inn nagoya

Thanks Bro

lincoln3010
18-11-2022, 09:44 PM
Hello bros, newbie doubt, me and my frd planing a trip
We got some info that weekend and weekdays price for girls got very big difference?

Is that true?

No such thing
It's the same price

imcn85
18-11-2022, 10:18 PM
Nice hotels to stay

Biz Hotel

Harmoni Suites

Batam 1

Paragon Hotel

Swiss Bell

M1

Aston

Bro, are these girl-friendly?

m1969
19-11-2022, 09:03 AM
Can anyone recommend a hotel, where rooms have a balcony ?
would prefer to smoke in the balcony instead of inside the room. Previously i used to book Harmoni hotel, they had some rooms with balcony. Cant seem to find any now....
Thanks.

storm70
19-11-2022, 09:44 AM
Hi , Any bro know abt the New Venew Spa at Batam city hotel.. How is the package for fj & hj...Tks

lincoln3010
19-11-2022, 12:42 PM
Bro, are these girl-friendly?

Yes they are

lincoln3010
19-11-2022, 12:46 PM
Can anyone recommend a hotel, where rooms have a balcony ?
would prefer to smoke in the balcony instead of inside the room. Previously i used to book Harmoni hotel, they had some rooms with balcony. Cant seem to find any now....
Thanks.

Ibis styles batam nagoya.

flex0rnaut
19-11-2022, 01:02 PM
Im also a regular at BCC, was there last week. The old spa is closed, theres a new company that took over .

520169

Thanks for the update!

Does this new company also provide extras like its predecessor?

Ninja_Assassin
19-11-2022, 01:17 PM
Thanks for the update!

Does this new company also provide extras like its predecessor?

Should have ba......... so far on all my trips to Batam.... I have yet to encounter any "clean" massage joint that do not offer extras. Even those places where the counter will tell you upfront they are clean joint and no offer happy ending..... but you negotiate directly with the masseuse always boleh jadi one if the price is right.

Ninja_Assassin
19-11-2022, 01:19 PM
Walaueh..... now booking ferry to Batam macam booking shuttle train to JB..... often sold out and must book in advance.

temaseks
19-11-2022, 03:17 PM
Hi , Any bro know abt the New Venew Spa at Batam city hotel.. How is the package for fj & hj...Tks

HJ only. FJ need to negotiate with the girl.

tiuminator
19-11-2022, 03:34 PM
Walaueh..... now booking ferry to Batam macam booking shuttle train to JB..... often sold out and must book in advance.


From JB to Batam?

mindgame
19-11-2022, 03:46 PM
Should have ba......... so far on all my trips to Batam.... I have yet to encounter any "clean" massage joint that do not offer extras. Even those places where the counter will tell you upfront they are clean joint and no offer happy ending..... but you negotiate direcly with the masseuse always boleh jadi one if the price is right.
Sport massage is a 'clean' no handy panky. They massage is really good and strong

Ninja_Assassin
19-11-2022, 04:20 PM
From JB to Batam?

SIN - JB (Shuttle Tebrau) train need to book in advance for tickets.

SIN - HBB (Batam) ferry now often sold out..... need to book in advance for available seats.

That's why I make comparison between the two.

P.S. - I receive pm just now telling me from JB (Duty free jetty) to Batam ferry always have vacant seats ..... maybe next time will try travel from there.

Ninja_Assassin
19-11-2022, 04:22 PM
Sport massage is a 'clean' no handy panky. They massage is really good and strong

Me not interested in sports..... always go for massage spas & health centres.

flex0rnaut
19-11-2022, 07:11 PM
Should but you negotiate directly with the masseuse always boleh jadi one if the price is right.

going on a month's time.. not sure if I should try my luck hmmm

imcn85
19-11-2022, 08:38 PM
Yes they are

Much appreciated bro, TY!

Meltdown
19-11-2022, 09:01 PM
2-5 Nov trip (3 guys)

Day 1
Reach hotel (swiss belinn) can only check in 2pm....
Go for the fried prawns and fish opposite BCS Mall( there are 2, the one on the left if you are facing BCS mall)
Then do pedicure and manicure at BCS mall
Check in hotel.
Go Siam Odyssey for massage (20% off if go before 2pm on weekdays except Friday)
Go to LOVE SEAFOOD at 168 foodcourt (opposite nagoya hill shopping)
Grand Dragon ktv and pub at 11 pm, live band but mostly malay songs. (800k to get cewek to entertain you)

Day 2
Penuin market (nice local food, got nice mixed vegetables rice there)
Massage again at Siam Odyssey
LOVE SEAFOOD again
HOLYWINGS bistro at habourfront, HOLYWINGS II Night club is also there. (Blue Fire also good for family) use Google map
Proceed to MORENA (no live band, only music and dancers)
(600k for cewek or dancers to entertain you, 3.5 juta if to book back hotel)

Day 3
Penuin market for breakfast and to buy crackers, petai for friends and colleagues
Massage again at Siam Odyssey
Movie 25k (nagoya shopping mall) only but their snacks are more expensive then the movie ticket.... (watched BLACK ADAM)
LOVE SEAFOOD again at 168 foodcourt.
Street stall fried noodle / fried rice for supper (10pm) near Da Vienna Hotel and "johor bubu" (surprisingly still around)
Rest for the night

Day 4
Check out and back in Singapore around 5pm (2.30pm ferry at Batam Center)

airman
19-11-2022, 09:13 PM
what's the attraction at Siam Odyssey that you went 3 days in a row?

would like to know what is on offer there?

tiuminator
19-11-2022, 09:47 PM
P.S. - I receive pm just now telling me from JB (Duty free jetty) to Batam ferry always have vacant seats ..... maybe next time will try travel from there.

Any idea how much it cost both ways to and from jb stulang laut to batam?

lincoln3010
19-11-2022, 10:14 PM
Morena book back 3.5juta

Omg

Expensive

Unless it comes with kitas
Hahah

tiuminator
19-11-2022, 10:24 PM
SIN - JB (Shuttle Tebrau) train need to book in advance for tickets.

SIN - HBB (Batam) ferry now often sold out..... need to book in advance for available seats.

Strange. I dont face such problem with Horizon ferry. You went on weekends?

charleskoh
19-11-2022, 11:28 PM
Hi bros,

Would like to know if Eska Mega mall allow special services ?

Meltdown
20-11-2022, 12:14 AM
what's the attraction at Siam Odyssey that you went 3 days in a row?

would like to know what is on offer there?

It was known as Thai Odyssey previously.
Bought over by Indonesian because of Covid.
Still the same staff and environment.
20% cheaper (Monday - Thursday only)
$30 plus for 2 hours aromatherapy,

Ninja_Assassin
20-11-2022, 03:49 AM
Strange. I dont face such problem with Horizon ferry. You went on weekends?


Yep..... every weekend is fully booked.

Ninja_Assassin
20-11-2022, 03:51 AM
Any idea how much it cost both ways to and from jb stulang laut to batam?

2-way return is rm$200/= which is about S$60.... cheaper than SG.

airman
20-11-2022, 06:02 PM
It was known as Thai Odyssey previously.
Bought over by Indonesian because of Covid.
Still the same staff and environment.
20% cheaper (Monday - Thursday only)
$30 plus for 2 hours aromatherapy,

you mean 2 hours of massage for only $30? That's a steal!

what are the side dishes?

BFOMF5
20-11-2022, 08:47 PM
HRZ schedule change.
https://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/29635/2963534605a9f0f001440918cc251f5098e555a9.jpg

Yesterday morning try take HRZ 2nd boat (8AM) to SG, missed the new 2nd boat(715), got to go for 3 boat (830).
The worst thing also my first experience of delay(1hr) due to bad weather. :(

m1969
20-11-2022, 09:04 PM
Ibis styles batam nagoya.

Thanks bro, will try. Any idea if its FL friendly ?

drawing
20-11-2022, 10:17 PM
Arrived on Friday, visited MM, Sekar, The Link,Mawar and the old Kupukupu around 3pm. Most of them changed/rotated OKT regardless of whether the name changed.

Most places have quite a few girls 10-30 but selection was not great, pricing around 1.2-1.8m

Went back to picked a girl from Mawar against my initial judgement and gosh! What a poor decision it was. Total waste of my time & 2.5m! She was good looking but refuse to talk/engage, complains a lot of just kept to her phone. Should have stick to my original decision and not book her.

Luckily, Saturday was better, booked a pitite one from Sekar and she was chatty and fun.

Can feel that Batam is coming back after 3 years

applebottomjean
21-11-2022, 01:05 AM
Not asking to be spoon fed by bros. I’m going to batam soon but unable to make a drop by joints to book. I’m going to give a longshot with michat and wechat. But any bros with lobang for outcall do pm me, appreciate it. Will be asking my driver for contacts too

Moredhel
21-11-2022, 02:10 AM
Not asking to be spoon fed by bros. I’m going to batam soon but unable to make a drop by joints to book. I’m going to give a longshot with michat and wechat. But any bros with lobang for outcall do pm me, appreciate it. Will be asking my driver for contacts too

Forget the michats and wechats route bro. Mostly miss or online okt operations. Tried and tested on 3 seperate occasions.

All of them were assigned by online okt via the chats. So they will not look anything alike to the photos. Much better to take the time to drop by the booking joints or massage places.

If you like the thrill of the chase, then discos and pubs are your options, though bringing them back to the room might cost a pretty penny.

tiuminator
21-11-2022, 11:38 AM
Yep..... every weekend is fully booked.

How about batam centre ferries? Fully booked too?

kum69
21-11-2022, 11:42 AM
The last time i was there was more than 15 yrs ago. I used to work there. I frequently went hunting. My favorite hunting ground was Planet. And even before that i used to hunt at Ozone and Sphinx.

Any snipers here can share, how fertile is the hunting ground now. And where?

Cheers !

P.S. By the way i am going there between 13 to 16th December. Any brothers there or going around the same time? Pls inbox.

retirebatam
22-11-2022, 12:04 AM
Any idea how much it cost both ways to and from jb stulang laut to batam?

From (stulang laut) Berjaya waterfront ferry terminal to harbour bay ferry terminal two ways is RM 160 + 21 (surcharge) = RM 181 :)

which is about S$55, saving of (73-55)= S$18. But the ferry they use is smaller than horizon ferry.

Those who wants to go to stulang laut ferry terminal can take a bus from JB Sentral bus terminal near kastam, and the journey takes about 15 minutes to reach at less than RM2. :)

Harbourfront to Harbourbay

Pros
1) shorter journey (40mins)
2) Uses better and bigger ferry
3) departure & arrival at the ferry terminal is 13 trips per day

Cons
1) More expensive

Stulang Laut to Harbourbay

Pros
1) cheaper
2) can go to batam directly from JB without the need to go back spore

Cons
1) longer journey (1 hour 50 min)
2) uses smaller ferry
3) departure & arrival at the ferry terminal is only 3 trips per day. :(

retirebatam
22-11-2022, 01:37 AM
But i go Batam salon, have a hair cut + hair wash + face wash last 2-3 months ago, it cost 100k rupiah (around S$10), few days ago i go same place, same shop, same hair dresser, price still 100k rupiah but it becomes less than S$9,hehehe... :p

My favorite Budi Siang Malam chicken rice still at same price too (before & after covid period).


Yes, in fact the cost of goods and services in batam was very much cheaper in comparison to spore can say almost everything, that was why spending money in Batam gives more bang for your buck

In addition, it become lagi cheaper when value of rupiah drops..




Hehehe...UOB chap just called, ask me to change my placement as interest rate is 3.7-3.8% now. Go to make an appointment with him to go down to see him. I'm definitely avoiding the queue. :p

Just to share another piece of saving money tip is to place your cpf ordinary account saving which only earn 2.5% to a newly launch ocbc bank fix deposit at 3.4%.

The minimum placement is S$20k and maximum is S$1 million.

This is provided if you have spare fund in your OA account and need not pay for your housing loan anymore



Hehehe, therefore i go Batam eat lots of fruits. :p

In Singapore i eat lesser fruits than i am in Batam.

Apple is just illustration. I do not have apple in the shopping trolley tho,hehehe.... :D


Talking about fruits, in indonesia, one very famous fruit that the local like to eat is salak, the appearance of the fruit has a scaly brown skin look like snake skin.

And there is another famous indonesian fruit I love to eat the most is known as "harum manis". It is a type of mango with green skin and light-yellow dots which is sweet and fragrance in taste.

The lemon yellow flesh is thick and juicy too. Talk until here my saliva already drips..:p


Others go Batam eat sea food or some high end Japanese/Korean food or the sort, i go Batam eat fried rice, chicken rice, char siew rice, mix fruits etc, hehehe...food isn't my primary priority in Batam.

For me... 给我龙虾龙肉,还不如给我一盘叉烧饭。

For me same here, I am not able to take too much seafood as I am slightly allergy. Seafood like prawn, lobster, squid, oyster, etc has a high content of cholesterol with the exception of fish which is rich in omega 3 good for health.:)

The fish that I love the most in batam is gurame, a type of indonesia fresh water fish which is super delicious.

That is why everytime I go to batam big 3 mall, (DC,BCS,NH), I will always dine in the following budget friendly restaurant with aircon and some with free wifi.

Baresto cafe
Kangen cafe
Malaya cafe
Bistro Godiva
Ayam penyet Ria
Coffee Town

Some of the cafe always offer gurame, fried rice and other promotional food at 30%-50% off.

Therefore every time I visit batam tend to have a chance to eat those promotional food at the restaurant mentioned above at a very cheap price which is super value for money, hehe :D

If I were to eat those food in an indonesian restaurant in singapore, the cost is at least double to triple in cost.:eek:

tiuminator
22-11-2022, 11:08 AM
From (stulang laut) Berjaya waterfront ferry terminal to harbour bay ferry terminal two ways is RM 160 + 21 (surcharge) = RM 181 :)

which is about S$55, saving of (73-55)= S$18. But the ferry they use is smaller than horizon ferry.


Thanks for info. Worth trying.:)

Any idea the bus no. from custom to stulang laut ferry terminal?

Ah Ti
22-11-2022, 02:45 PM
Arrived on Friday, visited MM, Sekar, The Link,Mawar and the old Kupukupu around 3pm. Most of them changed/rotated OKT regardless of whether the name changed.

Most places have quite a few girls 10-30 but selection was not great, pricing around 1.2-1.8m

Went back to picked a girl from Mawar against my initial judgement and gosh! What a poor decision it was. Total waste of my time & 2.5m! She was good looking but refuse to talk/engage, complains a lot of just kept to her phone. Should have stick to my original decision and not book her.

Luckily, Saturday was better, booked a pitite one from Sekar and she was chatty and fun.

Can feel that Batam is coming back after 3 years
no need to talk, screw her 3 rounds hard hard and ask her to FO, that's it, mustn't tips.

Jas28
22-11-2022, 08:17 PM
Arrived on Friday, visited MM, Sekar, The Link,Mawar and the old Kupukupu around 3pm. Most of them changed/rotated OKT regardless of whether the name changed.

Most places have quite a few girls 10-30 but selection was not great, pricing around 1.2-1.8m

Went back to picked a girl from Mawar against my initial judgement and gosh! What a poor decision it was. Total waste of my time & 2.5m! She was good looking but refuse to talk/engage, complains a lot of just kept to her phone. Should have stick to my original decision and not book her.

Luckily, Saturday was better, booked a pitite one from Sekar and she was chatty and fun.

Can feel that Batam is coming back after 3 years

U book the SYT for 2.5m for 1 day ?

Black Page
23-11-2022, 12:08 AM
Talking about fruits, in indonesia, one very famous fruit that the local like to eat is salak, the appearance of the fruit has a scaly brown skin look like snake skin.

Do you like it? I find it horrible to eat... no taste, no juice...


Seafood like prawn, lobster, squid, oyster, etc has a high content of cholesterol with the exception of fish which is rich in omega 3 good for health.:)
This is a good advice for BFOMF5. He is very concerned about eating healthy food. :p

perish__
23-11-2022, 02:02 PM
this is my first trip to batam.

would like to seek inputs from brothers here:

1. where is the most high class spa, with nice ambience and girl with fit bodies for FJ.

2. where is the best KTV in terms of decor/ambience and higher quality girls for taking back to hotel for overnight.

thank you.

lincoln3010
23-11-2022, 02:58 PM
1. SPA wise
Can try fame or hello kitty

2. KTv wise there is plenty to choose from
Dlink
M1
Galaxy
Grand Dragon

Gonzo888
23-11-2022, 07:09 PM
Wrong place... disregard.

botakboy
23-11-2022, 08:06 PM
Going to batam view resort in december, any intro? massage/ktv is ok :D
Solo by the way

DaTan
23-11-2022, 10:44 PM
Just bought my ticket for 3rd week of December...
Hopefully it will not be too crowded considering its the school holidays.

drawing
24-11-2022, 01:05 AM
no need to talk, screw her 3 rounds hard hard and ask her to FO, that's it, mustn't tips.
Haha not so strong lah, cannot stand for dead fish

U book the SYT for 2.5m for 1 day ?
My dumbest decision this year...

retirebatam
24-11-2022, 02:46 AM
Hi , Any bro know abt the New Venew Spa at Batam city hotel.. How is the package for fj & hj...Tks

Venew spa can be considered as a moderate-atas spa that distinguish itself from those lower end spa around DC mall.

It can be accessed by taking the lift to level 6 at BCH 2.

Alternatively, if stay in hotel room at BCH 1, take the lift to level 2, walk across the link bridge to BCH 2 and take the lift to level 6.

It has a nice ambience inside the massage room and massage was done on a mattress placed on a timber floor. Alternatively, may request the massage cewek to go to the room if you stay in batam city hotel.

When you reach there, you will be welcomed by one of the customer service officer (cewek) who will bring you to a room to watch the tv screen displaying the photo of the available massage cewek at that moment.

After you have made your choice, she will bring you to the massage room where you can undress, prepare and wait for the cewek of your dream.. :p

Many of the cewek there are sundanese who came from west java and some of them have fair skin as the place they came from have a cool weather or at highland area like Bogor, Puncak, Bandung, Cipanas,etc :)

There are basically two type of massage room at the joint. One of them is executive room where there is a shower area with a urinal.

Another one is suites room with a bath tub and a urinal but the suite room is slightly bigger, no significant differences.

Both type of rooms are equipped with hot water and the cleanliness level was acceptable.

The massage duration for each massage is standard at 90 minutes with an option to extend another 45 minutes if not shiok enough. :D
(extension of time charge separately)

The price of massage services there was a bit complicated to calculate.

If not mistaken, the following is the available type of service and prices:

1) If massage is done inside your hotel room, the price is very straight forward which is 485k + 5% tax= 510k rupiah (no discount)

Kindly note that it does not include handjob, strip or fj. (Any special service is charged separately)

510k get massage for 90 minutes with no add-on and no handjob but in your own hotel room.

2) If massage in the spa executive room, price will be 395k. But if tamu take up an add-on service, then will be provided with a free handjob and also a discount on the total cost. (could not remember the percentage)

Example if I take the hot aromatic oil as an add-on which cost another 45k, the total fee incurred will be 395k + 45k = 440k. But after take into account the service tax and the discount, it becomes 338k.

338k get massage for 90 minutes with hot aromatic oil and a handjob in executive room.

3) If massage in the suites room, price will be 425k. But if tamu take up an add-on service, similarly they provide a free handjob and a discount on the total cost.

Example if take the hot aromatic oil as an add-on, the total fee incurred will be 425k + 45k = 470k. But after take into account the service tax and the discount, it becomes 360k.

360k get massage for 90 minutes with hot aromatic oil and a handjob in suites room.

Kindly note that if don’t take the add-on service then there will be no free handjob provided..

Was informed that no sex is allowed inside the massage rooms...

However, if want to request the cewek to strip naked and play papaya then will be charged separately which the tamu have to negotiate directly with the cewek. :p

Below is the pricing for each type of add-on service in rupiah:

Hot aromatic oil - 45k (I chose lavender as it smells nice)

Ear candle - 50k

Body scrub - 75k (in bahasa known as lulur tubuh)

Double pleasure - 65k (as the name implies mean cum twice or beat aeroplane twice)

Ice sensation - 65k (using ice for massage probably for treating pain)

Bubble thai - 95k (don’t know what is that)

Nurul gel - 65k (a kind of odorless gel which come from seaweed)

Nurul massage - 120k (not sure whether is it body to body massage)

Nowadays many massage joints include the price of handjob into their massage package as in this way, the joint can earn some profit from the special service handjob. :eek:

Whereas the cewek may only be given a little commission from the joint. Unlike those joint where the cewek can get the full handjob fees from the client. ;)

However, beside the handjob, the cewek may offer extra special services like strip top + roam, strip full + roam, strip full + blowjob, bj + fj, strip full + b2b, etc..and the price quoted depends on each individual cewek.

In addition, if massage at the joint entitle the tamu to use the facilities free of charge like hot pool, cold pool, steamed room, oxygen room at level 5 of BCH 2. :)

Last order if never remember wrongly is at 10.00pm. :p

nono1973
24-11-2022, 12:30 PM
The name is "Beauty"

I see, i see, the new booking joint name is called Beauty.

Previous photo because door opened, didn't show the name.

Should have post this photo instead, hehehe...

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Finally a new booking joint shows up in this part of Nagoya. Otherwise not many people will walk by that area (since Formosa closed down), hehehe... next hopeful place to look forward to for a booking joint would be Gold Bird area near Lai Lai hotel.

nono1973
24-11-2022, 02:07 PM
Yes, in fact the cost of goods and services in batam was very much cheaper in comparison to spore can say almost everything, that was why spending money in Batam gives more bang for your buck

Can imagine if the amount is bigger, like in calculation of million rupiah (or milliar), saving can comes pretty BIG. I wouldn't have expect 3 juta can rent a room in Nagoya Mansion studio for a month before covid time.

(thats 36 juta a year)
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And that is like less than S$266.00, hehehe....

Remember before covid time, i was looking into buying some units? I quit that idea after some bad news but then, after looking through a bit, i am starting to "think" AGAIN! :p

Formosa Residence is no longer beyond reach anymore. It's more like buying a piece of expensive memory, hehehe...

55 juta/year rental
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I know Batam center area were even cheaper than i state above. But i do not wish to stay around there.

Just to share another piece of saving money tip is to place your cpf ordinary account saving which only earn 2.5% to a newly launch ocbc bank fix deposit at 3.4%.

The minimum placement is S$20k and maximum is S$1 million.

Looking and working on it as i typed, hehehe...fantastic piece of info. :D

Thank you for sharing!

By the way, till end of this month, UOB is giving 3.85% for S$20k placement for 6 month/ 10 month & 12 month.

6 month is a good choice (S$384+/6mth for S$20k). Next year May 2023 can visit Batam for a free 2D1N trip (inclusive girl, ferry and hotel). :D

This is provided if you have spare fund in your OA account and need not pay for your housing loan anymore

One of my life's simple principle, don't lent, don't borrow.

Enough to get by can already, no need too much but can't be too little either.

LKY said before, whatever spent must come from somewhere.

Still working on "whatever i spent in Batam, and have it comes from Batam itself", hehehe... so one day can go Batam for "free".

And there is another famous indonesian fruit I love to eat the most is known as "harum manis". It is a type of mango with green skin and light-yellow dots which is sweet and fragrance in taste.

The lemon yellow flesh is thick and juicy too. Talk until here my saliva already drips..

If got time to spare, try to pay the supermarket in DC mall a visit. Especially to pay a bit more attention to the fruit section and those small shops that are just outside the supermarket.

You will be surprised by the price of the fruits there. Best part is, they already cut the fruits for me. When the "harum manis" season is over, i will see lots of mango juice for sale, hehehe...super ultra sweet, not suitable for diabetic tho. Need to add water. Most if not all of the fruits were selling at an average of 10k rupiah, which is less than S$0.90.

I want to eat fruit/s, i am lazy to cut them myself, i go DC mall.

I want to make my girlSSS happy, i go DC mall buy the already cut fruit/s for them, they are happy (this is just 1 of the method).

There are lots (of fruits) to choose from there.

Nowaday, i rarely visit BCS mall and Nagoya Hill Mall.

For me same here, I am not able to take too much seafood as I am slightly allergy. Seafood like prawn, lobster, squid, oyster, etc has a high content of cholesterol with the exception of fish which is rich in omega 3 good for health.

The fish that I love the most in batam is gurame, a type of indonesia fresh water fish which is super delicious.

I rarely has much experience on Sea Food in Batam. Most info which i got them from friends and in this thread, i will make my comparison here, compile what i can understand and then bring those aunties & uncles to the best i think, to try them.

They also in turn give me their sea food FR and shared their experience too, hehehe... some of these uncles & aunties whom i brought to Batam were chef themselves (eg, famous curry rice stall in Singapore, Vietnamese restaurant owner, canteen/coffee shop owner, hawkers etc and they can be rather picky when it comes to food).

One of the Malay uncle even used to "cook" in the Brunei palace too. His one comment on Batam sea food was, most of the sea food there taste good mainly because of its freshness, not because they (the chef) can handle the "ingredients" well.

If I were to eat those food in an indonesian restaurant in singapore, the cost is at least double to triple in cost.:eek:

Compare with Singapore, almost everything in Batam will be cheap.


Anyone here got a photo of Sekar Massage which is situated opposite Hana Hotel? I will need your permission to use them too, thank you.

I remember i have one but i lost it somewhere...hmm... :(

I ask my same question as above here again.
(i chose not to have one post one question)

Ahwolf
24-11-2022, 06:42 PM
Any bros here have contacts for 18yrs old and above please PM me ah..

By the way, batamfast website mention must download app peduli lindungi for checking vaccine status.. heard it take quite long to get verified.

nitecrawllerr
24-11-2022, 07:19 PM
Baresto cafe
Kangen cafe
Malaya cafe
Bistro Godiva
Ayam penyet Ria
Coffee Town

Some of the cafe always offer gurame, fried rice and other promotional food at 30%-50% off.

That night tried Baresto cafe. Opted for gurame fish. Not bad but not much flesh. No promo. Paid full with 10%. :mad:

heige
24-11-2022, 08:04 PM
How do you guys travel around Batam? I see bros mention bus. Private hire/taxi safe/possible?

I want to go in December, but need to plan a bit to decide how many days and when. :p

Jas28
24-11-2022, 08:20 PM
Haha not so strong lah, cannot stand for dead fish


My dumbest decision this year...

She must be dam pretty with hourly figure to die for u to fork out this price. so far i ask a few shop ,the price is around 1.2 to 1.7 m the most.

retirebatam
25-11-2022, 02:04 AM
I see, i see, the new booking joint name is called Beauty.

Finally a new booking joint shows up in this part of Nagoya. Otherwise not many people will walk by that area (since Formosa closed down), hehehe... next hopeful place to look forward to for a booking joint would be Gold Bird area near Lai Lai hotel.

This joint has a nice name and hopefully it lives up to its name..:)

Its good location reminded us how convenient it used to be in the olden days when we can just walk to the two booking joints at queen 8933 and dynasty 99 from formosa hotel.

Looking forward to the completion of the "renovasi" of formosa 2.0 :D

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Yes every cheong area should have hotels, coffee shops or food centres, massage joints, convenient stores and supper area, etc. within the vicinity.

The ex-Gold Bird area has a few hotels like Hotel Nagoya One, Hotel Bahari, Hotel Lai Lai, Batam Star, etc :)

Also there are nice food there too like restoran ibu joko and warung selling satay and nasi goreng,etc. :p

Massage wise, have dirty and clean massage like sport massage, abi massage, bahari massage, etc. :D

So that area really lack of a booking joint since the previous two booking joints there had already closed for good. ;)

retirebatam
25-11-2022, 03:13 AM
By the way, till end of this month, UOB is giving 3.85% for S$20k placement for 6 month/ 10 month & 12 month.

Thanks for info.

Also wish to share another 2 money growing tips. :)

CIMB adjusted its fix deposit interest rate to 4.15% (minimum S$10000)

RHB bank also adjusted its fix deposit rate to 4.10% (minimum S$20000)



6 month is a good choice (S$384+/6mth for S$20k). Next year May 2023 can visit Batam for a free 2D1N trip (inclusive girl, ferry and hotel). :D


Nowadays, fix deposit interest rate is higher than cpf special account interest of 4% and in the near future it may rise further.

Last time cash is useless as the interest rate was so terribly low, and inflation eat up its value. Now the world is changing, anything can happen, even the impossible could happen like malaysia has a new pm and world cup unexpected result - japan win germany. ;)

According to financial analyst, the high interest rate , high loan rate situation will last quite long as it was influenced by inflation and the economy of the world.

Now cash is really king, not only it is an liquid asset, it helps you to earn good interest too.. :p

You may have heard before that if you place money in fix deposit to earn high interest and let it auto renew, the compounding effect is very great as it was known that compounding interest is the eighth wonder of the world.

Albert Einstein said that those who understand it, earn it and those who don't, will pay it. :D

In simple term, the principal amount earn interest. Then the interest of the principal earn another interest. The second interest in return earn the third interest, so on and so forth which leads to the compounding effect and the sum keep accumulating..:)

nitecrawllerr
25-11-2022, 09:56 AM
This joint has a nice name and hopefully it lives up to its name..:)

Its good location reminded us how convenient it used to be in the olden days when we can just walk to the two booking joints at queen 8933 and dynasty 99 from formosa hotel.

Not forgetting very nearby New Berlian right of Formosa as we came out fm the lobby and old Berlian beside Queen 8933.:o

Hurricane88
25-11-2022, 10:48 AM
Nowadays, fix deposit interest rate is higher than cpf special account interest of 4% and in the near future it may rise further.

Now cash is really king, not only it is an liquid asset, it helps you to earn good interest too.. :p

You may have heard before that if you place money in fix deposit to earn high interest and let it auto renew, the compounding effect is very great as it was known that compounding interest is the eighth wonder of the world.

Albert Einstein said that those who understand it, earn it and those who don't, will pay it. :D


Please understand that what goes up will come down...the interest rates will not be high forever...:)

When the recession comes in next year...the Fed will start to cut rates...so we may be back to square one...:)

Whoever is placing large amount of money in FD will not be rich...cash is king but what is the point that cash $100 can buy alot last year but not alot this year...will buy less next few years...:)

Best is to make money using money and ROI at least 10% and above...not the interest rate of 4.x%...:)

airman
25-11-2022, 12:58 PM
Please understand that what goes up will come down...the interest rates will not be high forever...:)

When the recession comes in next year...the Fed will start to cut rates...so we may be back to square one...:)

Whoever is placing large amount of money in FD will not be rich...cash is king but what is the point that cash $100 can buy alot last year but not alot this year...will buy less next few years...:)

Best is to make money using money and ROI at least 10% and above...not the interest rate of 4.x%...:)

so what investments can have ROI of at least 10%?

Hurricane88
25-11-2022, 01:39 PM
so what investments can have ROI of at least 10%?

If you had bought property last 5 years will have at least more than 10% ROi...:)

Currently have to wait after so many cooling measures...or daring to go overseas buy property...:)

Buy physical gold and silver...remember gold and silver dun have interest...never deposit with any company...:)

Buy value stocks with potential but I dun advise becos risky...no public lisyed company are prudent...the companies always paid the directors well and even losing money still pay...:)

Buy endowment plan using cpf money...usually 100% returns after maturiy...:)

To me any interest rate of 4 to 5% will not make me withdraw CPF money to put in FD...no FD rates guaranteed for life...but CPF rates is guaranteed..:)

nono1973
25-11-2022, 01:50 PM
This joint has a nice name and hopefully it lives up to its name..

True, it has a nice name that i didn't even know it has one, hehehe... (only when bro BFOMF5 said so, then i knew the name) :p

The name "blinded" me (especially when i stand too close to the door,hehehe...).


So that area really lack of a booking joint since the previous two booking joints there had already closed for good.

Yes, i look forward to seeing a booking joint there.

I often have in mind that when heaven closes some doors, a window somewhere will often be opened.

Just like when i go walk around Utama Hotel/Pagoda Hotel area that time, i saw the word "Refleksi" & planned to walk in to get a foot massage. Then i realize that it is actually a booking joint, hehehe... :D

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I was surprised by the 20+ girls of different age, body size & dress in it, hehehe...


CIMB adjusted its fix deposit interest rate to 4.15% (minimum S$10000)


Thanks for sharing bro, 4.15% were for 18 months. Too long for me.

If i put my money inside today, need to wait until 2024 then i can go Batam for free, hehehe...i prefer a shorter term placement with higher interest rate.

POSB/DBS has one for 5 months at 3.8% (and another with a 3.5% for 3 months) but require a promo code. You may wish to google.

It is often advisable to spread out my own money to collect the interest on different parts of the month each year. Like the example of above. 3 months later, i get about S$175/3 months/3.5% (with S$20k). Then 5 months later, i get about S$316.60/5 months/3.8%, followed by UOB's S$384/6 months/3.85% etc etc.

By doing that, it may seems i am getting lesser. But the advantage is my money is not locked for a longer time and that i get to have some free money every month or every other month to subsidize my trips to Batam.

Note that i am only using S$20k's minimum placement. I can always add more if i wish to have more "free money" to subsidize my Batam trips in 2023.

Nowadays, fix deposit interest rate is higher than cpf special account interest of 4% and in the near future it may rise further.

This is another reason why i choose not to get too much money locked up for a pro-long period of time.

Who knows, next year it goes up to 5% FD? :p

Up or down, i still get my money back. I just don't like all my "eggs" to be put inside one basket. Remember, small money adds up over time, hehehe...

Thats just me.


Now cash is really king, not only it is an liquid asset, it helps you to earn good interest too..

I agree to this only for Singapore dollar,hehehe... imagine you are in Malaysia
& Indonesia using riggit & rupiah, you tell me cash is King...hehehe...

By the way, Malaysia & Indonesia interest rate is very high too, but well....you know what i am going to say, hence not going to elaborate further. :D


Albert Einstein said that those who understand it, earn it and those who don't, will pay it. :D

In simple term, the principal amount earn interest. Then the interest of the principal earn another interest. The second interest in return earn the third interest, so on and so forth which leads to the compounding effect and the sum keep accumulating..

Loan shark concept, hehehe...just the other way around it.

Not forgetting very nearby New Berlian right of Formosa as we came out fm the lobby and old Berlian beside Queen 8933.

For nearly a decades, demands are there but wasn't as much until covid happens. Now got to wait and see where and when the new booking joints will turn up.

If you observe the booking joint's customer. They were pretty much different from those days. Not as many Malays and Chinese as before.

Please understand that what goes up will come down...the interest rates will not be high forever...

When the recession comes in next year...the Fed will start to cut rates...so we may be back to square one...

Definitely, whatever goes up will have to come down eventually. Hence meantime while it is still up, i will just keep things going & moving forward.

But i am not going to have my money tied on FD for a pro-long period of time.

Recession = Opportunity

Just like the last 2 years of covid, hehehe...

Whoever is placing large amount of money in FD will not be rich...cash is king but what is the point that cash $100 can buy alot last year but not alot this year...will buy less next few years...:)

Best is to make money using money and ROI at least 10% and above...not the interest rate of 4.x%...:)

A very good question, what can S$100 10 years ago buys me and what can S$100 buys me today.

10 years ago, i pay much more for the below item :

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What can S$0.10 buys me today in Sillypore...

(this below item on my way to my new home in Singapore)
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Above is what i often do in Batam, hehehe....

Oh wait, what happens if i am in Sillypore and need to spend in Singapore dollar.

my simple 10% discount (simpler version of ROI?)
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Hehehe...above were illustrations of recession, inflation versus found opportunity. That is my reason why i visit Batam so often. I make S$ but spend most of what i made in Batam. When i need to use Singapore dollar in Singapore. I can also look out for my so called "Opportunity" which i find it difficult explain in words here, hehehe.... i use picture/photo to help.

Now i am working on trying to take back the money i paid to the booking girls in Batam, hehehe... i know this may sounds crazy to some tho (imagine the scenario of i pay the girl 1 juta for booking, she pays me back 500k rupiah, hehehe...).

As below.....


LKY said before, whatever spent must come from somewhere.

Still working on "whatever i spent in Batam, and have it comes from Batam itself", hehehe... so one day can go Batam for "free".


I don't have a big heart nor big ambition in life. I only look for the "basics".

Therefore....


One of my life's simple principle, don't lent, don't borrow.

Enough to get by can already, no need too much but can't be too little either.


I like simplicity.

Love the idea of "click click here, click click there" to make money.
(remember the anti-scam advertisement in Channel 8? i got the idea there)

"Basic" must-have(s) when going to Batam.

1. Ferry ticket to go.
2. Hotel room or a place to stay in.
3. Girls.
4. Food.

Enough said.

Hurricane88
25-11-2022, 02:34 PM
nono1973

Very correct...use sgd to spend in cheaper countries...not short trip but stay long...best can make money there...:)

this is stretching sgd...;)

not suitable to pay expensive ktvs and gals...:)

tangoten0
25-11-2022, 04:23 PM
Any safe place to buy Viagra or Cialis (or local/non-name brands) in Batam? Any recommended brands? Any tips to avoid fake ones?

Hurricane88
25-11-2022, 04:27 PM
Any safe place to buy Viagra or Cialis (or local/non-name brands) in Batam? Any recommended brands? Any tips to avoid fake ones?

There was a discussion just last few pages...why dun you read...:)

coconut13
25-11-2022, 11:09 PM
lurry;21811468']

Next Batam trip is on 27 Nov to 29 Nov. If you wanna join me can hit me up at my telegram {edited by mod - personnal contact not allwed in sbf} I got private driver too for a good price. No need trouble urself find grab, gojek etc.

My view on Batam is: BATAM is BACK to where its suppose to be!!!!!!!!!

Hi Bro! Thank you for your info. Will be going on 28 - 29 Nov with 3 friends and all of us first timers. If u dun mind meeting up for a dinner in Batam and allow us to learn about ur adventures, pls let me know.

I wish I can send u a PM but this is my first post.

AG8238217
26-11-2022, 09:56 AM
Help help. Fame vs Venew, i love going to delta , i enjoy being bath by the girl after the massage.Coming trip not going to nagoya hill area, so Fame or Venew ? Which will be similar to delta service? Cant find enough new data on Fame. Bros please advise. I also heard of a new spa at harbour bay, phoenix. Anyone tried?

lincoln3010
26-11-2022, 01:22 PM
Fame is better
More atas feel

Can never go wrong there

darts69
26-11-2022, 02:49 PM
Help help. Fame vs Venew, i love going to delta , i enjoy being bath by the girl after the massage.Coming trip not going to nagoya hill area, so Fame or Venew ? Which will be similar to delta service? Cant find enough new data on Fame. Bros please advise. I also heard of a new spa at harbour bay, phoenix. Anyone tried?

Avoid phoenix this place they will try to upsell u almost everything n their facilities r not up to standard, better try octopus at Pacific at least their standard r much better for about d same price

GN007SG
26-11-2022, 03:39 PM
Help help. Fame vs Venew, i love going to delta , i enjoy being bath by the girl after the massage.Coming trip not going to nagoya hill area, so Fame or Venew ? Which will be similar to delta service? Cant find enough new data on Fame. Bros please advise. I also heard of a new spa at harbour bay, phoenix. Anyone tried?

went to fame last month then the counter say girls cant choose
being a big boobs lover, i decided not to proceed

im not sure what is it like for delta and venew or phoenix

nitecrawllerr
26-11-2022, 05:36 PM
If you observe the booking joint's customer. They were pretty much different from those days. Not as many Malays and Chinese as before.


Any idea why fewer Malays/Chinese? Fewer joints? Thought nowadays its back to bu$ine$$ for okt.:D

qwerty1213
26-11-2022, 05:48 PM
went to fame last month then the counter say girls cant choose
being a big boobs lover, i decided not to proceed

im not sure what is it like for delta and venew or phoenix

For Phoenix there's a monitor for you to choose the girl at the counter. You can either choose or state your preference and the CSO will recommend base on your preference. Quite a good selection of girls I'd say. My goto spa to gather contact. Hehe

Hadn't been to delta spa since COVID but if I recall you can't choose visually but can state your preference. However you can go to their IG and if there's any girl you prefer just show them the pics. That's what my friend did. Lol

storm70
27-11-2022, 10:59 PM
went to fame last month then the counter say girls cant choose
being a big boobs lover, i decided not to proceed

im not sure what is it like for delta and venew or phoenix


Fame still the same as last time, girls cannot chose...Fj & Hj need to negotiate separately ...Maybe can try Venus spa, is at batam center, can check their photo at IG

parag
28-11-2022, 12:22 PM
Hi everyone! I am planning to go Batam in this week or next for 2-3 days. I am a newbie and would love to join if anyone planning during the same time. Please let me know. Thanks

hayhay
28-11-2022, 07:55 PM
Raining what to do

Jas28
29-11-2022, 10:54 AM
Raining what to do

Hug tight n Bomb the base:D

Hurricane88
29-11-2022, 11:02 AM
Raining what to do

Become rabbits...:)

hayhay
29-11-2022, 12:09 PM
Hug tight n Bomb the base:D

Become rabbits...:)

I station here for one month still haven’t find any girls. Need to start my venture.
Too bad only nite time free

parag
29-11-2022, 12:09 PM
Hello brothers!

Can anyone help - which massage shop I should try if I want naked full autoroam + HJ? Does halo kitty or octopus with only option for HJ can do full striping and autoroam or need to go for FJ option only for that? Thanks

Hurricane88
29-11-2022, 01:26 PM
I station here for one month still haven’t find any girls. Need to start my venture.
Too bad only nite time free

There is a will there is way...:)

cougar666
29-11-2022, 03:19 PM
First trip to Batam since the COVID. Most places not much changes. A2 food court is still crowded with 2 big screen showing world cup live. Went to Mawar around 11.30am but not many ceweks, around 6-8. The price 1.2M to 1.8M. Walk around the area and other 1 joint offers LT after 7pm and Happy does not offer LT.
Bro Nono, the nice noodle store at Penuin market is no longer available but the other one 古龙 is still around and business is still good.
I used my Wise debit card to pay for Grab, massage and food at the restaurant which their rate is 11340 much better than money changer in Batam at 11200. I also used it to draw cash but unfortunately the card get stucked in CIMB ATM after the money is dispersed. I quickly blocked the card

m1r4n4
29-11-2022, 07:21 PM
Visited Hallo Kitty Spa last Sunday, 27/11 and i have to say that the communication prior to the action and after was top notch. All my queries were answered promptly, english was good and i saw that they provided free transportation to and fro. He sent me photos of the girls available and the prices. I chose one girl and i informed the guy to fetch me at Mega Mall. Being an idiot, i was actually at Grand Batam mall which was a distant away. He reached mega mall and i told him about the wrong location, he was not mad at all and instead laughed about it and told me not to worry abt it. 10/10. Payment before service started. Service from the lady i chose (Caca) was decent, she was a little bit thicc due to me choosing from the photos only but they said it was possible to choose the girl in baris form. Massage was good and the lady was pretty service oriented, just a little bit heavier when she was riding me. GFE was pretty good as i was able to speak bahasa. Finished the deed and informed the guy to send me back to my hotel which he gladly did so. Will def return again if im back in Batam!

nono1973
29-11-2022, 07:53 PM
Going to batam view resort in december, any intro? massage/ktv is ok


Bro, you stay wrong place.

If you wish to cheong Batam MPs & booking joint, stay around Utama or Pagoda or Biz Hotel.

If you wish to go for food in batam, stay around BCS mall.

If you wish to party in pubs & catch some music, stay around NED aka Nagoya Entertainment district.

Where you are staying at is a bit off course already.

Just for you to know.

botakboy
29-11-2022, 07:58 PM
Bro, you stay wrong place.

If you wish to cheong Batam MPs & booking joint, stay around Utama or Pagoda or Biz Hotel.

If you wish to go for food in batam, stay around BCS mall.

If you wish to party in pubs & catch some music, stay around NED aka Nagoya Entertainment district.

Where you are staying at is a bit off course already.

Just for you to know.

Understood, with my colleagues thats why, i wouldnt mind travelling a bit though :D
any suggestions or private contact?

nono1973
29-11-2022, 08:09 PM
not suitable to pay expensive ktvs and gals...:)

Can always bring girls to family KTV tho, hehehe... :D

Last time i go family ktv in batam, see the girls outside the counter so pretty until i drool all over,hehehe...a bit regret i bring girls there.

But then that was before covid time. :(

Any idea why fewer Malays/Chinese? Fewer joints?

Thats my observation after seating outside a few booking joint looking at the customers who walked-in and also gathered from the words from some OKTs and Mamis.

I observed car loads and small-bus load of Indians and Bangladeshi visiting booking joints. OKT also mention their main walk in customer were the above mention group.

When this group of customers come to their joint, i was completely "ignored". :p

Thought nowadays its back to bu$ine$$ for okt.

It did! :D

Nowaday spas & higher-end MPs all use high tech stuffs for customers to choose girls. No too many people knows that even booking joints also gone high tech already.

I think i mention before, nowaday no need to visit booking joint much,hehehe... Because booking joint comes to us instead, hehehe... mami even video call the girls with her Ipad or Galaxy Tab. We one by one choose from the video call girls who would parade live for me and my friends before we made our "final decision" (we need to go in group though).

Hence my analysis is, most Chinese and Malays were using apps to choose their girls instead having to visit booking joint by booking joint.

nono1973
29-11-2022, 08:24 PM
Understood, with my colleagues thats why, i wouldnt mind travelling a bit though

Then just get a taxi to get you to Utama Hotel/Pagoda Hotel or Biz Hotel. Better still, the above 3 mentioned hotel is actually in one area. Simply ask your taxi driver to drive one round in Utama hotel, you see 90% of almost "everything".

Depending on what you need, if need booking girls for overnight, go booking joint. If need massage, go Massage. Your choice are many there.

You can even ask you driver come pick you up at later time at same place too (if you are using grab/maxim/gojek). ;)

Just note down the driver's hp number will do (car number too). Don't have a indo number? Fret not. Ask you massage girl or the cashier counter call for you (your driver's number).

any suggestions or private contact?

I don't have contacts to share, bro. So very sorry...

I share mainly basics.

Give you contact also no use. Most indonesian girls service were quite inconsistent. My meat could be your poison. Nothing is really SOP in Batam.

Worst case scenario, simply call Hallo Kitty. ;)

_______________________________

And bro, share with you one more thing in this thread, avoid quoting a whole long post (especially my post)...it gets deleted very soon. Hurry and go take away some paragraphs of the post above (the quoted portion).

I, thank you.

botakboy
29-11-2022, 08:25 PM
Understood thank you :D Hallo kitty got contact or wechat?

botakboy
29-11-2022, 08:33 PM
Just checked 44 mins. I think call girl to my resort easier :D haha

nono1973
29-11-2022, 08:33 PM
Hallo kitty got contact or wechat?

They have a thread in this forum :

https://sbf.net.nz/showthread.php?t=906086

And they bring you from your hotel & back to your hotel. ;)

Can choose girls too, hehehe...just that its very pricey for Batam standard hence i mentioned it's the last resort if you have no other choices. But since you arent so familiar in Batam, just take it as "school fees" then.

They are also located around Utama/Pagoda/Biz hotel area which i mentioned earlier.

botakboy
29-11-2022, 08:40 PM
Got it! thanks for the info :D greatly appreciated.

Black Page
30-11-2022, 01:36 AM
Nothing is really SOP in Batam.

And this is why I find legal houses in Geylang terribly boring (you know EXACTLY what the girl will do, minute by minute), but Batam so exciting and attractive (I am happy even when I have bad luck there :p)

nitecrawllerr
30-11-2022, 12:11 PM
I think i mention before, nowaday no need to visit booking joint much,hehehe... Because booking joint comes to us instead, hehehe... mami even video call the girls with her Ipad or Galaxy Tab. We one by one choose from the video call girls who would parade live for me and my friends before we made our "final decision" (we need to go in group though).

Wow. High tech ya. So long leow never visit those joints. So lost touch. One of these days must visit them and get their contact numbers for future booking.:p

temaseks
30-11-2022, 04:02 PM
Understood thank you :D Hallo kitty got contact or wechat?

I think the one called Good One msg is better, near the end of the rd.

coconut13
01-12-2022, 12:21 AM
Went to Batam on 28/29 Nov. Although some bros already mentioned before, I still checked with a few booking joints and overnight is really 3 shots (just trying my luck). Dinner at Wey wey seafood is cheap at $260 for 9 of us.

Thanks to Bro QQ for his tips in the earlier post and apologize that the situation does not allow us to meet up.

retirebatam
01-12-2022, 12:39 AM
Thanks for info. Worth trying.:)

Any idea the bus no. from custom to stulang laut ferry terminal?

From JB kastam walk to JB Sentral bus terminal.

from there, you can take Causeway Link Bus No. CT1.

Alternatively you can also take Transit Link Bus No. 123. (more frequent)

Alight at the bus stop in front of De Stulang building and then walk about 5 mins to Berjaya Waterfront where it housed a shopping mall, a hotel and a ferry terminal. :D

Ferry ticket can be purchase at level 2 of the mall. :)

retirebatam
01-12-2022, 01:16 AM
And this is why I find legal houses in Geylang terribly boring (you know EXACTLY what the girl will do, minute by minute), but Batam so exciting and attractive (I am happy even when I have bad luck there :p)

Yes because the girls in geylang brothel house are very mechanical and sop mean girl and customer strip, bath and then have sex with a condom. :p

The experience is like very commercial therefore don't have much girlfriend feel and foreplay. :)

On the other hand, in batam customer can book a cewek over night and he has plenty of time to play. Some cewek are also very accommodating too as she will do as what the tamu wants her to do like some individual fetish act.

But in geylang the working girl is unlike to do that as some of them just want to quickly finish up the job. :mad:

I had a friend who is in his 60s have difficulty to get an erection fast enough. He need plenty of foreplay and take a longer time before he can get hardened. So many of times he went to geylang but end up mission failed. :(

He also does not take viagra or cialis, So he said he need a few hours duration with the girls so that he can get a hard enough erection to get the job done and short time service don't provide that long hours. ;)

Therefore the only solution for him is to book a overnight cewek in batam or engage in a long massage service (2 to 3 hours) which include "sort tem" with the cewek.:D

lincoln3010
01-12-2022, 11:23 AM
Booking girls n Booking joints are hit and miss
To each it's own

tiuminator
01-12-2022, 11:32 AM
From JB kastam walk to JB Sentral bus terminal.

from there, you can take Causeway Link Bus No. CT1.

Alternatively you can also take Transit Link Bus No. 123. (more frequent)

Ferry ticket can be purchase at level 2 of the mall. :)

Noted. TYVM.:)

nono1973
01-12-2022, 12:04 PM
First trip to Batam since the COVID. Most places not much changes. A2 food court is still crowded with 2 big screen showing world cup live. Went to Mawar around 11.30am but not many ceweks, around 6-8. The price 1.2M to 1.8M. Walk around the area and other 1 joint offers LT after 7pm and Happy does not offer LT.

Thank you for sharing, bro.

Actually nowaday, almost every MP there is a booking joint to me, hehehe... go into any MP around that area, some can choose girl, some can't. But one can privately discuss with the girls during the massage session to come to your hotel after her work hours in the MP/s.

Believe me, bro. These girls know the market booking price. Good thing is their knowledge of the market booking price is still at the before-covid time (around a juta or so). And if there happen to be a girl that knows current booking price, can always discuss with the girl/s that since she is coming after work, price/s can then be lower-ed (yes, need to bargain a bit).

Those were the places whereby 800k to 1 juta girls still available.

I am currently enjoying myself in some "clean massage places", hehehe...

Bro Nono, the nice noodle store at Penuin market is no longer available but the other one 古龙 is still around and business is still good.

Few months ago i was at Bai Long (inside penuin market), they are still opened. Ku Long at behind Gideon area still there. Bei Long at a2 also still open. For Bai long,you need to go before 12pm, if not earlier better.

I think next trip shall go visit them again,hehehe... :D

I used my Wise debit card to pay for Grab, massage and food at the restaurant which their rate is 11340 much better than money changer in Batam at 11200. I also used it to draw cash but unfortunately the card get stucked in CIMB ATM after the money is dispersed. I quickly blocked the card

I still prefer using cash. Cards are for emergency only.

Nowaday, over the last 2 weeks or so, exchange rate at walk-in money changers has aften been above 11300+/SGD.

You thinking is quick, as in to quickly block your card after it got jammed. Not many are experienced enough to think quickly like you, hehehe... :p

m1969
01-12-2022, 12:44 PM
Hence my analysis is, most Chinese and Malays were using apps to choose their girls instead having to visit booking joint by booking joint.

Which app you referring to bro... can share? 😄
Thks.

lalade
01-12-2022, 10:58 PM
Any ST recommendations in batam worth going?

retirebatam
01-12-2022, 11:18 PM
Whoever is placing large amount of money in FD will not be rich...cash is king but what is the point that cash $100 can buy alot last year but not alot this year...will buy less next few years...:)

Best is to make money using money and ROI at least 10% and above...not the interest rate of 4.x%...:)

My comment below is base on my opinion, and also maybe only applicable to my situation…

Fix Deposit

Agree that fix deposit interest is not a high return investment but at least right now the interest rate is very much higher compare to the past twenty over years with interest of less than 1.5%.

With banks currently giving a fix deposit interest of 4.x%, it can be considered as a moderate return on investment.

Furthermore fix deposit placement is considered as a safe haven, as the principal amount is protected and the interest is guaranteed (as long as placement till date of maturity).

In addition, it is also insured by Singapore Deposit Insurance Corporation, for up to S$75,000 per depositor.
(in the event that the bank becomes bankrupt)

Financial products that are not insured by Singapore Deposit Insurance Corporation include foreign currency deposits, structured deposits and investment products such as unit trusts, shares and other securities. :)

Inflation Rate

If we refer to the past twenty years inflation rate history in singapore, most of the years have inflation rate of less than 3%, only with the exception of year 2008, 2011, 2012 and this year 2022 which exceeded 3%.

However, some of the years do also have deflation like in year 2015, 2016 and 2020. (things become cheaper to buy)

In spore, most years are having less than 3% inflation, some years more than 3% and some years have negative inflation (deflation), so the average inflation will be about 3% plus minus. ;)

Value of money

Hence, in order that my money to retain its value over time, it must generate a return that is higher than the average inflation rate of 3% plus minus.

Therefore for a fix deposit that gives 4.x% return is still can be considered as acceptable to me.

On the other hand, ROI that gives more than 10% are usually investment that is mostly not capital protected and also not profit guaranteed. Such investment is also subjected to risk of losing money too. :eek:

Return on investment

Risk and return are directly related.

The greater the risk that an investment may lose money, the greater its potential to get a higher return.

Therefore everyone has his/her own risk limit to consider as each of us have different financial situation...

I am a low risk taker and I will be contented with a return that exceeded the average inflation rate. :)

Hurricane88
02-12-2022, 04:53 AM
Inflation Rate

If we refer to the past twenty years inflation rate history in singapore, most of the years have inflation rate of less than 3%, only with the exception of year 2008, 2011, 2012 and this year 2022 which exceeded 3%.

However, some of the years do also have deflation like in year 2015, 2016 and 2020. (things become cheaper to buy)

In spore, most years are having less than 3% inflation, some years more than 3% and some years have negative inflation (deflation), so the average inflation will be about 3% plus minus. ;)


Haha inflation rate 3%...you still trust the gahmen who massage the data to show 3% inflation...:)

Example - Eggs in Fairprice used to be selling $5.15 for 30 eggs in 2020...now Fairprice selling $6.85 for 30 eggs which is 33% increase.

Chicken (L) back in 2020 Fairprice selling $7 and now selling $12.30...which is 75% increase.

Rice Jasmine 5kg - back 2020 selling $5.50 and now selling $7.30 which is 32%.

Kopi O - used to sell 80cts - $1 and now selling $1 - $1.20 which is 25%

Many examples fuel cost, electricity, water, gas...all were basic necessities for household and had increased by 30% to 70%...:)

If you still trust the 3% inflation rate then be it...:)

I agreed that any ROI higher than 10% is principal not guaranteed...but have to wait for opportunities...otherwise just leave the money in cpf which is real compound interest....:)

Hurricane88
02-12-2022, 08:53 AM
https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/consistently-high-cost-living-singapore-ranked-worlds-most-expensive-city-8th-time-decade-survey-2061111

Any reason why Singapore ranked top most expensive cities for 8th year... where 75% earned less than sgd 3k/mth with debts...:)

Wonder why Singaporean top in spoiling markets in most major cities...:)

hayhay
02-12-2022, 11:25 AM
Can’t seem to locate new belian

HeatguyAlvin
02-12-2022, 12:17 PM
Which app you referring to bro... can share? 😄
Thks.

Not sure but they seem quite active on IG.

Got new massage place will just follow you when they see you follow the other spots and sell you pacakges.

Like this newly opened Onyx Spa and Health Club.

238k discount 30% total 167k 90 minute massage. When I asked special Ada? They just say come here I explain.

nono1973
02-12-2022, 12:47 PM
Old info created about 5 years ago by ME can still be quite useful today (i'm reading). :p

https://sbf.net.nz/showpost.php?p=15775175&postcount=6277

If one were to take a forum thread (especially this thread) like a wechat or whatsapp chatline, then it will be almost impossible to find any quality information in it.

If one were to read a forum thread like it is a informative thread (by reading backward), then i am sure there are a lot info to dig up, hehehe.... :D

I am reading backward as i type this (yes, i am reading back because i am planning to update my older created info).

No time to read? Then better be well prepare to pay more (double or triple $) for lesser.

To me, pay more = better to stay in Singapore since price & service level close to similar.

Just my personal perspective, hehehe.... :p

MrLobangKing
02-12-2022, 01:21 PM
Wanted to go Batam with friends end of this month but don't know where to book girls. Can recommend and what are the price?

HeatguyAlvin
02-12-2022, 02:01 PM
If one were to take a forum thread (especially this thread) like a wechat or whatsapp chatline, then it will be almost impossible to find any quality information in it.




You have just said it and just right below you there's one 🤣🤣

PowerBenz
02-12-2022, 03:54 PM
any bros in batam now? wanna meet up? Can pm me

Pkcom
03-12-2022, 12:18 AM
Hey guys, any good seafood around turi beach area?

lincoln3010
03-12-2022, 09:43 AM
For seafood I would recommend Tanjung Piayu
Cheap good
Friendly service
4 person eat only 560k

PrcLust
03-12-2022, 11:35 AM
Bad news Liao. Indonesia may pass new laws as soon as by this month on an offence to have sex outside of marriage. Enjoy the freedom as much now as possible before new law is passed. It will killed the tourism industry if this new law is passed.

https://sg.yahoo.com/style/indonesia-set-criminalise-sex-marriage-201645728.html

Hurricane88
03-12-2022, 12:00 PM
Bad news Liao. Indonesia may pass new laws as soon as by this month on an offence to have sex outside of marriage. Enjoy the freedom as much now as possible before new law is passed. It will killed the tourism industry if this new law is passed.

https://sg.yahoo.com/style/indonesia-set-criminalise-sex-marriage-201645728.html

No worries lah...Vietnam also have such law...many countries also have similar laws and sex still happening...:)

kookoo88
03-12-2022, 07:46 PM
Bad news Liao. Indonesia may pass new laws as soon as by this month on an offence to have sex outside of marriage. Enjoy the freedom as much now as possible before new law is passed. It will killed the tourism industry if this new law is passed.

https://sg.yahoo.com/style/indonesia-set-criminalise-sex-marriage-201645728.html

I think only get charged if the official complain coming from someone close family like relative or village head.
But the risk is the law can be too broad which will lead to different interpretations especially local police might raid hotels and extorts from us foreigners.

Sex industry will probably continue.. but to lower our risk, I think better get from trustable source or contact. Been a long while since I go Batam anyway.

kanelo75
03-12-2022, 11:41 PM
morena ktv has increased the accompanion fee from 600k to 800k

Pkcom
04-12-2022, 01:54 AM
For seafood I would recommend Tanjung Piayu
Cheap good
Friendly service
4 person eat only 560k

Bro cannot la. 1 hr ride from turi beach. Ride cost more than dinner le

PervMonk
04-12-2022, 12:38 PM
Bad news Liao. Indonesia may pass new laws as soon as by this month on an offence to have sex outside of marriage. Enjoy the freedom as much now as possible before new law is passed. It will killed the tourism industry if this new law is passed.

https://sg.yahoo.com/style/indonesia-set-criminalise-sex-marriage-201645728.html

Well, read in CNA that such acts can only be reported by close relatives. Will just have to wait and see what's the definition of the limited parties are.

wan6183
04-12-2022, 06:47 PM
Hello all batam old birds 😆 going there next weekend and first timer.

Any recommendation for beer gardens? Heard from some friends there are such places that have girls dancing on stage etc. but they don’t remember where 😆

SgBoy86
04-12-2022, 07:53 PM
Hi Seniors,

Im actually going to Batam within the next few days and I have two questions:

1) Im not a fan of overnight booking /LT, so im planning to look for ST joints. Do you all have any recommended areas so i can recce?

2) Do you all know of any spa joints (must have steam bath) that have either HJ/FJ?

Thanks in advance, cheers bros. :)

kanelo75
05-12-2022, 12:16 AM
Hello all batam old birds 😆 going there next weekend and first timer.

Any recommendation for beer gardens? Heard from some friends there are such places that have girls dancing on stage etc. but they don’t remember where 😆
morena is one of them

GN007SG
05-12-2022, 07:39 AM
Hi Seniors,

Im actually going to Batam within the next few days and I have two questions:

1) Im not a fan of overnight booking /LT, so im planning to look for ST joints. Do you all have any recommended areas so i can recce?

2) Do you all know of any spa joints (must have steam bath) that have either HJ/FJ?

Thanks in advance, cheers bros. :)

1) some booking joints can talk to OKT say you want just book maybe 2 hours or something but mostly likely kena charge 1/2 the LT booking fees

deepie
05-12-2022, 10:28 AM
Anyone going this weekend? Hot me up here as i do not read pm 🤣

Naka_Timo
05-12-2022, 10:35 AM
No worries lah...Vietnam also have such law...many countries also have similar laws and sex still happening...:)

Yes, agreed. Just for show

Naka_Timo
05-12-2022, 10:39 AM
First trip to Batam since the COVID. Most places not much changes. A2 food court is still crowded with 2 big screen showing world cup live. Went to Mawar around 11.30am but not many ceweks, around 6-8. The price 1.2M to 1.8M. Walk around the area and other 1 joint offers LT after 7pm and Happy does not offer LT.
Bro Nono, the nice noodle store at Penuin market is no longer available but the other one 古龙 is still around and business is still good.
I used my Wise debit card to pay for Grab, massage and food at the restaurant which their rate is 11340 much better than money changer in Batam at 11200. I also used it to draw cash but unfortunately the card get stucked in CIMB ATM after the money is dispersed. I quickly blocked the card

Can try the purple debit card call U trip. The rate and good and directly top up if need can control budget.

NaughtyBlueBird
05-12-2022, 11:36 AM
Can share where to look for young ladies?