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nono1973

24-11-2016, 03:48 PM

My 34th Batam Trip Summary
(on 3rd Nov to 6th Nov)

Reference to my 33rd Batam trip (https://hive.am/33trip)

The school holiday is just round the corner,so i thought i would just plan for my trip on the early Nov. Was keeping my finger cross before i reach Batam as i was sourcing for stuffs in my last and current trip. Anyway,the trip still turn out to be better than expected.

Weather was gloomy and it does looks like it was going to rain when i reach Harbour Front and upon reaching Harbour Bay,it rained. Not a heavy one,just plan drizzling. My friends and i then took our taxi to our hotel,we get our money changed opposite our hotel while the receptionist prepares our room keys. During payment (we have the habit paying 1st for our rooms),we realize that the hotel has increase their price for certain already renovated rooms.

The old price used to be 600k for suite room,460k for deluxe room. Weekend Friday and Saturday need to top up another 50k. The rooms that were renovated will cost another 30k rupiah more.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/07/IMzZq.jpg

The new wall paper,the wooden flooring and the bath room are the things they did. Its a Thurday when we were there and one of my friend paid a nett price 490k x 2 nights = 980k for his deluxe room. They did not charge him the 50k weekend surcharge. Another of my friend paid 510k rupiah (460k for weekday) for deluxe room while i paid 460k x 3 nights = 1380k for the suite room. I had a good start,hehehe...seriously,i dont understand how they can do this kind of roti-prata pricing with my friends in presence. Therefore i conclude that any organization who gave me a good price may not be applicable for the friends i brought there.

Note : My friends also have some level of discount if you looked closely. It was mild tho but they should be paying another about 30k to 50k more respectively if the receptionist there were robots and start charging us everything normal.

Ok,i had a good start this trip. We checked into our room. Headed to Meximo Pub wan Tan me for late breakfast...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/07/zqWix.jpg

We still go for our usual noodle meal tho but tell ourselves that we will come back for the whats on the menu on the above photo at a later part of our trip. However there's one thing that goes a bit wrong here. Under a normal group trip,i will usually treat my friend for the island's 1st meal,but i was caught by surprise over my friend's speed of paying,hehehe... (thank you for the 1st meal,you know who you are)

Next is shopping time. We head to almost all the booking joint in Batam. Apparently it looks like most booking has no business,hehehe...there seems to be plenty of girls in nearly everyone of them EXCEPT my secret joints. I feel so sad...anyway,we had a bookmark in nearly all the joints we visited,had a good bargain and our girls were between 850k to 900k range,hehehe...none above a million rupiah.

Our shopping ends,we head for groceries...well...below were my combat ration sample for Day 1.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/07/a3OpK.jpg http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/07/bO05Z.jpg

Please do not follow suit my ways of grocery-shopping,its not exactly right. I tip my booking girls in Batam way lesser than my grocery-shopping bill. Inclusive of "helmets",shampoo,shower cream,toothpaste,tooth brush and cigarettes,i burnt nearly 300k on those just on my 1st day. An army full pack full of stuffs,meaning the items i bought were able to fill up an entire army full pack (minus the clothings),hehehe...

There are still time,when we reach our room. So my friend asked for an in-room massage while i called for one from out of hotel to test my in-pocket massage shops that i carry along with me. Its like a fire alarm testing,i have to make sure it works. Otherwise if one day if "fire" broke out,i may shit all over,hehehe...kiasu ma. CNY 2017 preparation.

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nono1973

24-11-2016, 03:48 PM

Massage session was the usual good,or the least i knew it isnt bad. I still have some time before my girl arrive,so i took a short nap and before long,the door bell rang and in comes the girls.

Had some short chat in my rooms 1st with my friends and our girls,to try to break the ice a little and then we return back to our room for OTOT. Luck was with me,i had the kind of girl i was looking for. i fired off 2 rounds before dinner time and then later we all gathered at lobby.

Dinner was in Food Colony at Nagoya City Walk area...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/08/3tgyV.png

I remember i was here at Food colony in my last trip. Cannot be help,come to batam with different friends,and i seems to be going round and round in circle coming back to same old place every now and then. There must be certain there,otherwise i wouldnt keep coming back here,right? Hehehe...this trip i took some photos of the food we ordered and here we go :

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/08/j6E08.jpg

The food was good,everyone has finish their food except the girls who would usually have some leftovers. Its pretty normal but i was glad that they didnt over-order their food. The bill turn out to be about 313k for food fed to 5 person including drinks and cigarettes.

The next place we head to was for a movie at Harbour Bay Mall....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ji94C4wqHBw

Nice movie...no one doze off and our girls were all hugging us like...well...i dont think i need to elaborate more. And no chance to use my tissue paper,hehehe...

Nowaday,after movie there seems to be plenty of taxis. No need to walk until Ggi Hotel,just outside the Mall itself will have taxi awaits,and if it doesnt...just walk to a corner of Mall's front door,look for the security guard to grab us one. Within a min or 2,a taxi would appear in our presence. No need to tip the security guard becos i know the taxi driver will tip him later after sending us back to hotel.

Reached hotel room,still have some time to order a massage but no...not this time round. I am not going to be focusing on massage session in this trip. Rested for a while before round 3 and followed by some TCSS and then bedtime...with another pop somewhere around there. Morning woke up much earlier than expected to have another pop and i decide i should extend this potential girl for the coming CNY 2017.

My friend's girl left in the morning as he decide to book yet another girl. So it was breakfast time and we all have a good chat on our girls during our in-hotel breakfast. My friend's girls was good...and little did we know lady luck was with him and he gotten an even better one today,hehehe...and for my case,my girl was send off to pay the OKT money and to come back in the early noon on her own. I have given her one of my other room key so in case i wasnt around,she can then comes in on her own. Yes,after one night with her,i find i can trust her enough to pass her my room key.

My friends and i went for a morning massage out of the hotel before heading lunch ,followed by 'shopping'. This time round,i did remember to note down Link KTV's location.

I took the below photo directly outside Link KTV....

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/08/GYMx7.jpg

Notice how close it is to go to Goodway Hotel from Link KTV?

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nono1973

24-11-2016, 03:49 PM

And now,to show you the surrounding just outside Link KTV....notice how close it is to Allium Hotel (as well as Goodway) aka used to be call Panaroma hotel in the past. To be exact,it is 10 o'clock from Allium Hotel entrance and 10 o'clock from Goodway hotel entrance.

http://gifyu.com/images/LinkKTV.gif

Lunch was at A2 Food Court... (couldnt really remember what we ate tho),after that we head for day 2 shopping.

My friends picked the girl and off we go. Back to hotel,my girl already in room. Its still early noon and our OTOT starts. I had a very tired previous night,so thought some rest would be good. Glad to know my girl knows how to massage,so it actually saves me at least 1 or 2 massage session. Imagine this,after finishing our love-making,followed by a massage. This skill of my girl also help me recover faster too,hehehe...

Not forgetting,i just collected my free hotel room stay voucher :

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/09/aldwR.jpg

Checked all my room stay thru out the past months,and base on my calculation i should be getting another free hotel room stay by the end of CNY 2017,hehehe...thats not my point,my purpose wasnt so much on the voucher itself but more on the amount of benefits a Gold member card would gave me.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/09/tH5Ji.jpg

There was an increase in price for both their restaurant (Tea Story and Vienna) and there is also a recent increase of room charges FOR THOSE newly renovated rooms by an extra 30k rupiah. My guess was correct since few summaries ago. Nothing is FREE. I was hoping for no increase in price until i reach my Gold Card status,hehehe...but apparently,price increase faster than gold ranking. Anyway,its just a game to me. And in this game,it looks like they were winning,or did they?

This hotel membership game tho did not damage me in anyway,has shown me much (marketing strategy). Friends who joined me before and has start as classic member with the hotel,3 of them has already turned Silver status,hehehe...and i already told them what to watch out for in their promotion.

Ok,back to the room,rest a bit,bonk a bit...still have time,so i head over to Citywalk Mall area there to have a hair cut. And when i am back to the room,my girl was kind of shock by my new look,hehehe...it was rest time until dinner.

We decide on A2 Food Court again for dinner since my friend have not been to A2 food court by night,so thought i would be the 1st to bring him there to get a taste of its different ambiance from the day time.

http://gifyu.com/images/giphy1bc9b6.gif

Above photo is more on a2 by night.

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nono1973

24-11-2016, 03:50 PM

My friends has been to a2 food court by day and this is the 1st time he's been there by night. Ambiance fits him but the setback still lies with,its currently a rainy season,hehehe...then again,luck was with us that night,there's no rain until past midnight that evening. Good weather for some cuddling on the bed with a cewek by the side after bonking.

It sure was crowded that evening for a Thursday and finally once again,i got my favourite crocodile meat satay. This time round,we didnt order too many for fear no one eats them. Anyway,the girls didnt seem to like it,the guys finish them all tho.

In the later evening after dinner,we head over to watch the movie ,Dr Strange at Harbour Bay Mall,hehehe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oM0uyXZinNY

It was a good movie,comparable with Ouija. I have a lot of fun in the sweet box this time round,hehehe...oh wait,at the end of this movie,when almost everyone in the theater were leaving,i held on to all my friends telling them NOT TO LEAVE their seats as yet. Reason is simple,becos there's some post-credit scene at the end of the movie. One was suppose to be from the upcoming Thor movie - Ragnarok and another should be on Dr Strange part 2. So,if you are watching the movie Dr Strange and when it finally ends,dont leave your seat quite yet...wait for a few mins and see what happen next.

This is my 2nd night,after our movie,we head straight back to hotel for OTOT and at surprisingly at close to midnight, a friend turn up and it was nigh time and raining (no wonder the air-con feels so cold when i was having OTOT).

Went down to have a chat with the friend and he left later for another hotel. Kind of surprise to hear from him that there was a ferry delay from Harbour Front on a Saturday. Like i share in the forum earlier,it could likely be the Star Cruise moving off/into the Harbour itself or...there could be some technical issues over at the Sillypore custom. Good to know all went well for my friend.

Next morning,i manage to gathered all the men and were suppose to head over to Momo for breakfast. Do note at this point,all our girls had left us...we were all single again,hehehe...upon reaching Momo,we realize that it was closed. Hmm...thats my 2nd time there over a period of around 30 days to see it closed for business and its only around 10am in the morning. What is wrong with this place?

Anyway,we head over for some chicken rice :

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/10/CnRe.jpg

This is the 2nd time i was there and...its the 1st time i tried their chicken rice. Now,i am benchmarking their chicken rice with Budi Siang Malam and all my friends however do agree with me,if i benchmark Budi Siang Malam chicken with Aciang Chicken rice,Budi Siang would still come as our 1st choice. I am not saying here that Aciang isnt good,as a matter of fact,it is a lot better than MOST chicken rice i had in Batam (believe me,as a non-seafood person,chicken rice so happen to be my everyday meal). But comparing to Budi Siang,i would have rate it 2nd place. I am returning to try it few more times to give it a fairer comparison in my future trips.

Photo taken from my previous Batam Food List
http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/10/y2cTL.jpg

Location was at Mitra Raya, Ciang Hau Kopitiam. Refer to my signature under Batam Food List for map.

Had our breakfast,time to head back to room to rest a little and then get a short massage before sending one of my friend back to Harbour Bay ferry terminal. Everyone goes to in-massage-shop massage and we all get a 15% discount over the 90k per hour. The girls try to chop my friends,but well...bad luck for the girls becos this group of mine knows what they are looking at,hehehe...

After the massage,rest a little again and showered before my friends start packing and prepare to check out of hotel. Before heading to Harbour Bay,we head over to meximo pub wan tan mee to try out their new food menu. This place for Char Siew rice and Curry pork rice etc etc...sorry,i was too lazy to take photo like always. Anyway,i find the food good enough as an everyday food,cheap and tasty too.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/10/XpqV4.jpg

Hmm...not bad,well worth to be listed in my everyday food record.

After the meal,we head to send my friends back home sweet home. I wont be seeing my friend until next year as they are having some oversea assignment out of Sillypore and can only be back somewhere on 2017. Good bye friend.

After the send off,me and yet other friends of mine need to go shopping. This time round,our 'shopping' were quick,hehehe...

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nono1973

24-11-2016, 03:51 PM

Up to here,i need to add a special mention,kind of like an 'incident'. In fact ,this 34th Batam trip,i encounter 2 abnormal incident,1 is regarding my friend and another is about a girl i book today (3rd night girl). I find her abnormal becos she makes me feel like she do not have a SOUL. She kept talking to herself,laugh for no apparent reason and often look blankly on the 4 walls but as if there is 'something'. No,i doubt there's anything supernatural becos i will be able to "know". Its her mind...it seems so hollow,body so soulless. Believe me,i put a lot of effort to try to understand her and even book her for 2 nights to do so.

She is by far the strangest girl i have ever booked in my entire nearly 3 years in batam. She says she is 49 years old. At 1st,she tell me she's 40,but later tells me she is 49. But how can she already have 2 kids at the age of 2 and 4 respectively if she is 49? I definitely dont believe she's 40 or even 49. Becos if she is,there would have sat least ome stretch mark on her abdomen area and her pussy wouldn't be tight.

Her breast would most probably be sagging like any 40 plus year old breast would have....but look at this! (definitely less than or about 30 year old from my perspective)

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/15/e6XC5.gif

Believe me,i have bonk enough PRCs and Thais to be able to tell what is fake boobs and this one is definitely a firm ,non-sagging D cupper. Could this be from a 49 years old? This is the part that makes me curious and curiosity usually kills the cat. I am going to RTF her on my next trip.

(the rating below only for myself to understand)
Look : 3.5/10
Breast : D+
Service : 3/10
Body : Hourglass near perfect figure but notice a few suicide scars on her left wrist.
Mental Health : 0/10 (totally abnormal)
BBBJ : have but almost non-existence
Special skill : Talking and smiling at ownself
GFE : 2.5/10 (forget the gfe)
OWE : 1/10 (hard to describe)

One more thing to add is that I didn't even get to see her mobile phone until the next day. Almost nothing escape me on my understanding on most of the girl's characteristic I have chosen but this one really boggle my mind. She will be my 2nd back up for CNY 2017,hehehe...and as for my 1st choice,i shall keep it to myself for now.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/25/J58u.gif

Ok,so much for my 3rd night's girl. I have her till about 415pm becos I need to check out during that hour and upon checking out, my friends and me went for late lunch at Budi Siang Malam Chicken rice stall near Penuin wet market,after the late lunch,it was back to Harbour Bay for home sweet home.

~~~~~~~End of my 34th Batam Summary~~~~~~~

Now the penis for my thought time :

1. 1st thing,i don't wish to say much,just one photo will help me to keep my record the way I like it to be. Memories...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/11/rBMZ.jpg

2. Link up for a chat with a long time friend who asked for some advise. The story goes like this,he has a gf in Batam,now his gf is pregnant. My friend seems confuse at 1st...so I gave him 3 pretty much common sense choices :

a) Ask his girl to go for an abortion, solve all the problem.

b) Take up responsibility, and keep the baby (whether the baby belongs to him or not).

c) Go MIA (missing in action),which means to dump both mother and baby.

The 3 common sense choices do comes with 3 different consequences together with 3 future preparation that my friend has to bear.

If he pick (a),he will have to convince his gf and to look for someone who could do the abortion. Abortion seems to be against the law.

If he pick (b),he will need to prepare for fatherhood ,house his gf ,have some level of commitment and to state a handful of T and C with his gf.

If he pick (c),well...he may have to face his karma.

Of course,1 may ask, how does he know the baby belongs to him. Seriously,he cant. Again, its his decision to make.

And his plight today is something that I have been pondering on since I came back to Batam in this trip. Its a big thing for my friend, he will have to make his own decision (big one) and I definitely cannot help much except to trying to keep his mind clear.

At this point I am thinking,what if one day the same thing happens to me? What choice would I make among the 3 I wrote here today? hmm....honestly,i have not decide it yet.

If this friend of mine choose marriage, it would be my 3rd friend who is marrying an Indo girl,hehehe...not all foreign marriage ends with sad ending. So far I only physically seen one not-so-good one and the rest were all good. Remember the office building cleaner case? And then there is Samat ,the 81 year old building security guard has an ending I envied. And for the rest I know about today...i am still watching.

3. This trip is considerably a good trip which I feel better than the last,i made many preparation, next trip I will do the double-confirm, hehehe...CNY 2017 is coming. My 3rd CNY trip and all the other of my 11 months Batam trip,just for this one.

If you are still following up to my 34th Batam trip summary to date, you will likely be growing with me. My 3 year old in Batam.

I like this picture below, so I thought I kept it in record in this summary too.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/15/c6xso.jpg

Reflects how i sometime look at things.

4. One thing i notice in this batam trip. The really really good girls anywhere in ths island dont last very long (800k SSYT in my last trip,the 950k girl from Kupu,the 850k and 900k girlsss from New Berry,the 800k girl from Memory,the 600k and 700k girlsss from my secret joints). I have also been thinking about sharing recently. When someone asked me,where to find all the good better best girls in Batam,it sets me thinking,what will be the result if i tell them. One of the slightly shared indo chinese girl places has brought their hj price from the previous 150k to 200k rupiah (its 100k rupiah if i dont roam and strip them) and the fj has turn out to be from 300k to 350k rupiah to the current 400k per pop,...and i take a look at the "other" unshared shops that were not release to anyone in this forum before. The price remains the same at 150k HJ (with roaming & strips) and 300k to 350k FJ. I am doing a test over the last 6 months and the test has proven me correct in some ways. I am cutting off one of the Indo chinese place i shared before and am unlikely to go back there again.

The higher i pay,the lower the service level and standard i get,this seems to happen only in Batam. BUT on the contrary,the lower i pay,the better the service level. And i am guessing its a normal trend that these better looking girls ,with lower price and good service level wouldnt last very long. Common sense but still,i cant help feeling sad and a little disappointed.

I feel sad not becos it is harder to find good and better girls,i feel sad becos the good and better gets back so little,and the worse and lousier gets paid way higher (and being tipped higher too). I am a little disappointed not becos the prices goes up and my good and better were disappearing but more becos life was so unfair in Batam. To continue to find the good and better girls,is easy for me,so long i understand the "formula" of the PRCs and Viets girls costings in Batam,hehehe...and to dirty my hands the right way.

One man's meat,another man's poison and i play my own game.

Time to evolve,hehehe...

5. Upcoming movies,hehehe...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzalKSTgAUY

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Kaboon

24-11-2016, 08:20 PM

My 34th Batam Trip Summary
(on 3rd Nov to 6th Nov)

Reference to my 33rd Batam trip (https://hive.am/33trip)

Finally...yr summary arrived.

Good timing. :D

justl00king

24-11-2016, 08:58 PM

18upz for bro nono1973, interesting read :D

nyquist

24-11-2016, 11:43 PM

She is by far the strangest girl i have ever booked in my entire nearly 3 years in batam.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/15/e6XC5.gif

(the rating below only for myself to understand)
Look : 3.5/10
Breast : D+
Service : 3/10
Body : Hourglass near perfect figure but notice a few suicide scars on her left wrist.
Mental Health : 0/10 (totally abnormal)
BBBJ : have but almost non-existence
Special skill : Talking and smiling at ownself
GFE : 2.5/10 (forget the gfe)
OWE : 1/10 (hard to describe)

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Wow, the stats of yr cewek from the Secret Garden freaks me up. Suicide Marks is a big No -No for me.
It tells many stories.. Normally i would avoid them but her headlights is just too tempting.. Give and Take.

As the saying goes : Cover the face, Shoot the Base .

hawkeye007

25-11-2016, 01:33 AM

such nice gesture of u 2 make a reply where the ans was rite in front of the one who asked it. :D

It was my good deed of the day... Hahaha... :p

hawkeye007

25-11-2016, 01:45 AM

Believe me,i have bonk enough PRCs and Thais to be able to tell what is fake boobs and this one is definitely a firm ,non-sagging D cupper. Could this be from a 49 years old? This is the part that makes me curious and curiosity usually kills the cat. I am going to RTF her on my next trip.

(the rating below only for myself to understand)
Look : 3.5/10
Breast : D+
Service : 3/10
Body : Hourglass near perfect figure but notice a few suicide scars on her left wrist.
Mental Health : 0/10 (totally abnormal)
BBBJ : have but almost non-existence
Special skill : Talking and smiling at ownself
GFE : 2.5/10 (forget the gfe)
OWE : 1/10 (hard to describe)

One more thing to add is that I didn't even get to see her mobile phone until the next day. Almost nothing escape me on my understanding on most of the girl's characteristic I have chosen but this one really boggle my mind. She will be my 2nd back up for CNY 2017,hehehe...and as for my 1st choice,i shall keep it to myself for now.

I'm intrigued to know why you plan to RTF her and even pen her down as your 2nd choice for CNY in spite of her eccentricity, lack of service/looks/GFE/OWE and apparent suicidal tendencies. Can't be just because of her D cup boobs!

iicycold

25-11-2016, 11:51 AM

I was looking thru the old Batam thread for some back dated info when I find the below done up by another bro in this forum,hehehe...pretty relevant of what I like to do in Batam...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/17/BHaET.jpg
(taken from one of bro Leo's post if i dont remember wrong)

Above pic don't really mean anything and it is just for laugh only. *smile*

The picture fits u well..lol..since u r a pay less so tat can enjoy more & better motivator. :D

One day,i may do a write up on how a 10 year old kid can also go to Batam for a 2D1N holiday trip alone by carrying lots of money with him (maximum cash limits can be up to S$20k per pax,hehehe...). It would be quite close to how any adults who would walk-through in Batam,hehehe... <10 year old kid Batam Walk-through guide> sounds like a good name for the story,hehehe...

The ending moral of that story might likely be, to spend lesser than a 10 year old kid who hold lots of cash in hand,not every sillyporean can...to spend more than him/her, ALL Sillyporean also can,hehehe...

The officer in SAF scolded his soldier during a 2.4km run, "HEY SOLDIER! DOUBLE UP! MY GRANDMOTHER CAN RUN FASTER THAN YOU!"...lol.

My 10 yr old kid can do better than u in btm...lol :D

I don't know what is Nono's job in his real life, but for sure he would have success as Chair of one of those associations defending the customers'/consumers' rights...

I tink he shld probably head the Sexual Entertainment dept 4 the btm's tourist board. :p

lobowolf

25-11-2016, 02:38 PM

Anyone samster going to Batam next weekend? :P

frostfuryz

25-11-2016, 02:49 PM

Anyone samster going to Batam next weekend? :P

return of 10 pointy apples :)

lurpsexx

25-11-2016, 03:47 PM

Slow Friday @ batam..hacksaw ridge no longer showing .. mickey mouse bkt ok, but not so flavorful as SG bkt.. lao ban niang in tight sexy short shorts n nice smooth white legs..lol..sunny day here..zzzzzz warm n drowsy.. feel like sleeping.. food and drink - 70k rp.. got surcharged for looking at her pretty legs too? Lol..

lty1986

25-11-2016, 03:50 PM

so any bro coming batam over this weekend that might want to come out for a drink or two

stiwrx

25-11-2016, 03:56 PM

Thanks Bro nono1973 for the detailed and informative writeup! :)

lty1986

25-11-2016, 04:10 PM

Slow Friday @ batam..hacksaw ridge no longer showing .. mickey mouse bkt ok, but not so flavorful as SG bkt.. lao ban niang in tight sexy short shorts n nice smooth white legs..lol..sunny day here..zzzzzz warm n drowsy.. feel like sleeping.

Yes. the mickey mouse BKT at mitra raya near to batam center. the lady boss very hot. food there not nice, i just go there to see her only.

nono1973

25-11-2016, 04:19 PM

Dear all,a few of the photos, especially those moving ones has die off today on my latest 34th Batam summary. I have already fix it. My summary is now complete,..oh well,unless it die off again on me later,hehehe...

The Batam Food List
(Updated on Jan 2016) (https://hive.am/FoodList2)

Beginner's Guide for 1st Time Batam Visitor (http://hive.gl/batambeginnerguide)

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/25/f0QqT.jpg
All My Batam Trip Summaries for 2015
(Jan - Dec) (https://hive.am/all2015summaries)

弱者報仇，強者寬恕，智者忘懷

Batam Places to avoid :
Morena series of joints,Delta Spa & MM

My latest 34th Batam Trip Summary
(on Nov 2016) (https://hive.am/34trip)

Its a Friday today,most bros here will be in Batam and/or likely to be getting ready to go there 2morow.

May all have a good time..

...come home safely too!

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For bros who are in Sillypore and have nothing to do at the moment, enjoy the movies below that i have enjoyed in Batam before.

League of God 封神傳奇
(Internet rating - 1.5/5)

https://www.sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=14940065&postcount=2959

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxT9G8RrfS0

A Chinese Odyssey: Part Three - 大話西遊 3
(Internet rating - 0.5/5)

https://www.sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=15174776&postcount=3761

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBlKlhrTBBI

The movies above has low ratings online,so do watch at your own risk. Both movies however have English and Chinese subtitle.

I seriously hope to find some Chinese movies with bahasa subtitle,so that I am able to watch it with my girl in my room,hehehe...like those below :

The Monkey King 2

https://www.sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=14153764&postcount=144

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PM7sRH5XDk

Not forgetting there is also "The Sorcerer And White Snake" below...

The Sorcerer And White Snake

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBzZw2cLzvo

Above 2 movies has Indo subtitle,and rating was pretty high alright.

Enjoy!

*I deliberately quote-lock more than 2/3 of my current post so nobody gets to quote my whole long post.

______________________________

In case you wish to ask,whats 弱者報仇，強者寬恕，智者忘懷 on my signature means. Well,its an online Chinese proverb and it means :

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/25/mpW1y.jpg

Have a good upcoming weekend.

Cheers!! ;)

fde83

25-11-2016, 05:47 PM

I think it's only me, walking around hbf now and I can already smell batam air from here. Also the inner voice of me telling me to go there now. Ahhhhhh! Must resist the temptation. Going there soon (28 nov).

lty1986

25-11-2016, 06:04 PM

Any bro coming batam can drop me a pm. Maybe can meet up for a drink tmr night.

GoWhere

25-11-2016, 10:21 PM

Sincerely thank you for your info.

I also add my bits,Billiard Center,M1 and M2 all have PRCs girls,and at times if they do not (sometime they dont),you may wish to advance book room and tell the counter guys you and your group are looking for PRC girls. Even Alishan KTV will also have but most time,its available only on weekends (Fri/Sat).

Like i say in my earlier posting/s, if you happen to find a KTV with mami and able to book room 'in advance' and can guarantee that your group of about 4 to 5 are willing to take PRC girls, mamis can make the necessary arrangement (unless there is a over-demand) for you.

Like the PRCs,Viets were also available. And yes,i have seen a couple of Viet girls in Alishan and Billiard center KTV before.

Maybe we did,but i rarely visit KTVs. If i am running solo,i usually don't exit the hotel from the reception area, hehehe...its kind of like a habit becos i don't like to see familiar faces (my relatives, gf's relatives, other booking girls etc) or be seen by them.

If fate allows, we can one day link up for a smoke or drink. ;)

Thanks bro nono, I generally don't take prc in indon :) just happen that time was totally my cai.
I normally switch between ktv n booking joint depending on the timing and my mood.
I would love to buy you a drink to thank you for your contributions in this thread that was extremely helpful. I have also benefit from it. PM me the next time you are head up and i'll see if I can swing over :)

Nice 34th Summary bro

Dirtyboy76

25-11-2016, 11:02 PM

Hi All,
any kind soul can advise which joint to try out in batam? going with my friends on sunday.. TQVM all

nyquist

25-11-2016, 11:32 PM

Hi All,
any kind soul can advise which joint to try out in batam? going with my friends on sunday.. TQVM all

Scroll up to previous 2 post. VIOLA. Yr answers are there.

Nulgath

26-11-2016, 01:03 AM

Scroll up to previous 2 post. VIOLA. Yr answers are there.

To be exact,it's 3 posts away before his own where he can find answers or the second post of this page. ;)

FreshJives

26-11-2016, 10:18 AM

mygirly

26-11-2016, 10:29 AM

Will be there for 3 days 2 night on this coming Sunday, anyone wanna meetup for kopi? Anyone know where to get adisas shoe eg. superstar or stan smith in batam shopping center, is the price cheaper there? Tks in advance..

Didn't know of any Adidas shop in Batam.
But alot of fake Adidas here selling 10 times cheaper than real ones.

I'm here till Tuesday.

nameless00

26-11-2016, 10:33 AM

Will be there for 3 days 2 night on this coming Sunday, anyone wanna meetup for kopi? Anyone know where to get adisas shoe eg. superstar or stan smith in batam shopping center, is the price cheaper there? Tks in advance..

There is an Adidas shop in Nagoya shopping mall ground floor. You can't miss it. Price wise not cheap, similar to SG.

xchong

26-11-2016, 12:55 PM

hi, new guy here. planning to go batam on Christmas eve for 3days, any pointers other then all the reports =D plan to stay at allium =)

preferably ktvs and about food where nice :)

thanks.

lurpsexx

26-11-2016, 01:45 PM

Didn't know of any Adidas shop in Batam.
But alot of fake Adidas here selling 10 times cheaper than real ones.

I'm here till Tuesday.

Yup second that..not only adidas, but almost all brands..but these un-genuine items quality are acceptable for the prices we pay.. can get cheaper prices at other areas, where tourists dun show up.. 😁

sadsky18

26-11-2016, 02:58 PM

**currently , talking to a sales girls i found at wechat before i left batam .
if she is willing to work as sales girls , i guess she should be those liang jia fu nu ( decent girl ) .

see can evolve to another story .

( i prefer fishing than paying money . keep looking at those counter girls in the shopping malls , but dont dare to approach . maybe next time ,will just ask for their wechat )

cheers .[/QUOTE]

story contiune , after coming back from batam ( since 13/11 ) .
been chatting with this sale girl ( she told me she is working at a shopping mall near the ferry terminal .
saw her wechat album , she took alot of photo in her uniform and around the shop .
20/f according to her .
quite good progress .
told her im looking for a girlfriend bla bla bla
ask her can accompany me ( decent ) when i go batam next time .
she even plan go where shopping , watch movie bla bla bla
then upgrade to tell her i want her to be my girlfriend , she look so sweet .
then dig inside her sex life ( she say only one time with ex bf )
tell her im not those anyhow ( like real ) guy
meeting her soon ( maybe dec or jan ) .
she seems to be nice cos she remember every small thing i told her .
she say she only earn 2.5ju a month with 2 off day only ( so pathetic ? )
been chit chatting almost everyday ( sticky ) but seems fun as its not money transaction type ( i hope )

nono1973

26-11-2016, 03:14 PM

Hv u tried working around it? Like u always did...

You already knew my answers base on what you just said, didnt you?

Paying much higher price than 'normal' for everything to get around Batam is way too easy, anyone could do that. Or i put it in other words,no Sillyporean going to Batam cannot do that.

Normal is define here as what the price most local normally pays.

Bro,like that it's 6 shots liao.

Hehehe...

Keeping tab on yr coming 34th trip summary.

Already done up my summary a week plus after i return to Singapore,i was trimming it to cut back on the number of posts and waiting for the right time to put it up. Its on the below link :

The Batam Food List
(Updated on Jan 2016) (https://hive.am/FoodList2)

Beginner's Guide for 1st Time Batam Visitor (http://hive.gl/batambeginnerguide)

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/25/f0QqT.jpg
All My Batam Trip Summaries for 2015
(Jan - Dec) (https://hive.am/all2015summaries)

弱者報仇，強者寬恕，智者忘懷

Batam Places to avoid :
Morena series of joints,Delta Spa & MM

My latest 34th Batam Trip Summary
(on Nov 2016) (https://hive.am/34trip)

Happy reading.

Always good to knw that others were reading yr postings by the many folds.

Yes,i do know many were reading my postings,some even keeping track of it. And yes,i am happy about it.

If you do not like to read my post/s,you can also click on the IGNORE button below any of my postings and you wont get to read any of my postings,ever. But if you really do that,i believe you may be missing out quite a bit ;)

You know my message above isnt for you,right? Its meant for those who didnt like my posting/s and/or be finding me long-winded, hehehe...(sorry about that long-winded part tho,hehehe...) i also have quite a list of people i use the ignore button on whereby I find their postings not relevant to thread title. And worry not, you are not one of them,hehehe...

I put some words on my signature that says :

弱者報仇，強者寬恕，智者忘懷
it means

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/25/mpW1y.jpg

A constant reminder to myself, be strong,be intelligent and don't be a weakling.

We all know the reason/s why we come to this thread for and it is definitely not for something else unrelated to the thread title.

U are really fortune teller,aldy knew which bro will quote yr whole post & which 1 wn't.

I use multi-quoting to reply to bros whom i knew will less likely to quote my whole long post. For bros who has the tendency to quote my whole long post,i either use the Hide button or Quote-lock method so they dont have a chance to break the forum rules and later risk to have their post removed.

Unless i find it necessary,otherwise i also try not to reply to those who would quote my whole long post too. Respect others,so others can get a chance to respect you...my personal point of view.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/26/B5WYl.gif

Just that over the years my objectives to goes overseas have change from steal eating to exploring the place which remind me of my childhood and looking for foods of Asia origin . All the markets at batam really bring back good memories when I was a kid .

Looking for girls were secondary. Maybe just for a short companionship or sudden need .

I dont know if you are Chinese,but what you just said reminds me of...

去年今日此门中，人面桃花相映红。
人面不知何处去，桃花依旧笑春风。

At some point of life living in a busy city, we would love to take a break from time to time to re-live ourselves in the good old days all over again. And Batam is a not-bad choice.

Enjoy Batam! Enjoy life!

iicycold

26-11-2016, 05:20 PM

I have this tendency too, to be overly confidence at times. So I try to bar myself with some personal rules, so as to prevent myself from reaching that state of mind and then set a few solutions in case I really lose control whereby I need to get out of those shit holes I put myself into, hehehe... (i am still human afterall)

There used 2 b a saying,it's harder 2 teach old dog new tricks. Mani who're exp wld hav had a "i'm in btm 4 so long,i knw better than u attitude"...there4 their exp lvl stop the moment they've those mentality. :D

Onli those who willin 2 learn keeps movin fwd. ;)

Maybe try Sakura massage at Nagoya?

wat's good in sakura massage? Can share wat u got tere? Preferably w damage 2.

TIA.

Ever wonder why Delta Spa price keep increasing in such high frequency (once every less than a year)? And Octopuss Spa seems to follow suit nowaday?(but not in such high frequency) Hehehe... my answer base on my own observation is simple becos Sillyporeans allows them to hence i say,Batam Delta spa..is a confirmed tourist trap and not for newbies, unless they wish to pay 'school fees'.

I rarely see batam locals in Delta Spa ,so their main source of income were definitely not from locals.

Just a simple observation of my own.

(note : i am mainly talking about Delta Spa in Batam and not any other Delta in other parts of Indonesia)

Good 1!

Tis is btm,business good,price up,service lvl drop,..business bad,service lvl up ,price drop & wen stil no good,they close shp...lol. U r damn fricking rite,it was mostly "sillyporean" who allows em 2 increase their price since the big bulk of their income wasn't frm locals.

Most of their locals siam tat spa far far long time ago. Wan cheap & good,follow their locals. Wan 2 get chop? jus follow any tourist @ nagoya hill mall. Wan 2 get chop even harder,don't ask price,don't bargain. Wan 2 get chop the hardest,don't read tis thread at all. :D

iicycold

26-11-2016, 05:36 PM

Therein lies the reason why the Thai FL in Singapore command $150/$160-90min-2shots and why the Indon FL can only sell for $100/90mins/2shots.

The way they operate oso different.

One more thing to add is that I didn't even get to see her mobile phone until the next day. Almost nothing escape me on my understanding on most of the girl's characteristic I have chosen but this one really boggle my mind. She will be my 2nd back up for CNY 2017,hehehe...and as for my 1st choice,i shall keep it to myself for now.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/25/J58u.gif

Ok,so much for my 3rd night's girl. I have her till about 415pm becos I need to check out during that hour and upon checking out, my friends and me went for late lunch at Budi Siang Malam Chicken rice stall near Penuin wet market,after the late lunch,it was back to Harbour Bay for home sweet home.

Yr cny first choice looks good! :D

Wow, the stats of yr cewek from the Secret Garden freaks me up. Suicide Marks is a big No -No for me.
It tells many stories.. Normally i would avoid them ..

same here,i'd avoid such,wait later halfway suddenly kee siao @ nite cut off my kkj wen i'm sleepin,then reli siao liao..lol. No wonder she's nono's 2nd choice. :D

AsuraWrath

26-11-2016, 07:43 PM

bro nono,monkey king 2 video is dead. :(

CelestialBeing

26-11-2016, 09:11 PM

any bro gonna be there tomorrow?

FreshJives

26-11-2016, 10:41 PM

any bro gonna be there tomorrow?
Check ur pm.. will be there tmr till Tuesday, me and another friend..

hawkeye007

27-11-2016, 01:01 AM

Next morning,i manage to gathered all the men and were suppose to head over to Momo for breakfast. Do note at this point,all our girls had left us...we were all single again,hehehe...upon reaching Momo,we realize that it was closed. Hmm...thats my 2nd time there over a period of around 30 days to see it closed for business and its only around 10am in the morning. What is wrong with this place?

Anyway,we head over for some chicken rice :

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/10/CnRe.jpg

This is the 2nd time i was there and...its the 1st time i tried their chicken rice. Now,i am benchmarking their chicken rice with Budi Siang Malam and all my friends however do agree with me,if i benchmark Budi Siang Malam chicken with Aciang Chicken rice,Budi Siang would still come as our 1st choice. I am not saying here that Aciang isnt good,as a matter of fact,it is a lot better than MOST chicken rice i had in Batam (believe me,as a non-seafood person,chicken rice so happen to be my everyday meal). But comparing to Budi Siang,i would have rate it 2nd place. I am returning to try it few more times to give it a fairer comparison in my future trips.

Photo taken from my previous Batam Food List
http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/10/y2cTL.jpg

Location was at Mitra Raya, Ciang Hau Kopitiam. Refer to my signature under Batam Food List for map.

Went over to Mitra Raya today and tried Aciang chicken rice; it's actually quite good! I like their white steamed chicken more than the roasted chicken though.

Next time you're in Mitra, check out Starmas coffeeshop; you can see its location on your map.

The bak kut teh (Teochew style; very flavorable with well-balanced peppery taste) and the lak-sa deserves a special mention. The BKT stall also sells a pretty good braised pig's trotters. I usually eat there once a week.

Black Page

27-11-2016, 03:46 AM

another is about a girl i book today (3rd night girl). I find her abnormal becos she makes me feel like she do not have a SOUL. She kept talking to herself,laugh for no apparent reason and often look blankly on the 4 walls but as if there is 'something'. No,i doubt there's anything supernatural becos i will be able to "know". Its her mind...it seems so hollow,body so soulless. Believe me,i put a lot of effort to try to understand her and even book her for 2 nights to do so.

I think that all that is very sad. From your words, I understand that she must have suffered some heavy trauma, which left her with the psychological problems or illness that you have witnessed. She must have no family, no one to care about her, no way to sustain herself and she found herself working that way. Who knows what story of desperation may be behind what you have seen today?:confused:

Kaboon

27-11-2016, 02:14 PM

bro nono,monkey king 2 video is dead. :(

Happen to find 1,hope it helps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62FFL_eux0s

..but not like nono's 1 w indo sub.

BFOMF5

27-11-2016, 02:53 PM

Any bros can update rp rate now ops Formasa
TIA

BFOMF5

27-11-2016, 07:02 PM

Got 9470 when Arrived SKP at 1600 indo time.

nono1973

28-11-2016, 02:16 AM

i was like ( wtf ) , she sure ah . later go down kena rob how . later she underage how bla bla bla bla

in the end , hahahahah i went down .

before that , i hide my wallet and my valuable ( spare phone , necklace ) all under the bed .

l only left like 3 pieces 50k 1 piece 2000 1 piece 1000 ( something like that ) and a key pouch with $10 sgd .

when i walk down the stairs ( ya , my hotel no lift ) , someone walk up .

not very pretty , decent look , gnd feeling .

she follow me inside my room .

( cut the story short , she chit chat with me , then she say wan to shower bla bla bla )

when she is showering , im bastard , i go check her bag ( want to see got knife , got gun or whatever . hahahaha later she rob me how )

all i find was a sport bra , a wet underwear and short and some girls stuffs .

when she come out , we chat about one hour with her lying at one corner and me one corner ( centre got pillow ) .

Interesting FR.

Hmm...definitely not a 1st time Batam dwellers. Shows that you are street-smart and were prepared for all sorts of consequences when calling on wechat girls. Lots of common sense move in your FR from my perspective.

Smart guy.

then i open my bag ( only that few pieces of notes ) , i say why not you take it . cos im leaving today , dont need anyway . dont know when will be coming back .

Wise move.

stilling msging her when im around the area . but deleted her when i reach singapore .

This part,we are quite similar,hehehe...

( i prefer fishing than paying money . keep looking at those counter girls in the shopping malls , but dont dare to approach . maybe next time ,will just ask for their wechat )

I prefer paying,be it the girls were from farm,FLs or anywhere. I have the habit not favoring any strings attached. This part we may be quite different. My principle is simple,i dont owe anyone, nobody owes me either.

Nice catch playing the fishingman in Batam. May your next catch be better than this.

Cheers!

Bro sadsky18 must be chatting in Bahasa, isn't it... I hope I can speak Indonesian also

I dont think you need to be able to speak bahasa to catch a 'fish',especially for retail shop girls. Quite a handful of girls in retail industry do speak very basic simple yet broken English,give and take tho,so long both party can understand each other will do.

Since brothels r officially illegal in indo,so i dn't tink there r reg mandatory/routine health checks 4 indo girls. It's onli wen the girls kena tat time then they go check up.

I agreed,over my nearly 3 years in Batam,i have yet to hear of girls from massage shops,booking joints,pubs,discotheques,KTVs etc having regular routine health checks. Unless there's a raid where a urine test is required.

Which reminds me,some time ago (if i didnt remember wrong),i read from one of Blackpage's post before where there used to be a raid in some pubs or discotheque in Batam when the police requires the girls to have some urine test or something, 2 of the girls there were later tested HIV positive.

Always use a condom when having sex. Like i said before,most girls in this trade already have some form of STD over a period of time.

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=15321833&postcount=4380

...not forgetting there's even more Men from all over the world were happy-spreading those disease around. Surely some of these Men were looking forward to bring in (or contract) something called , HIV.

A simple question cross my mind,do you have the guts to tell your relatives,friends and parents that you contracted STD/HIV if you were to ever have them?

If your answer is NO,it shows you understand dignity and pride as a Man...start by being a human today,use a condom during sex.

I'm jus pulling yr leg w tis quote post. No angry,ok? :p

(i'll buy u 2 tek botels in btm 4 tis 1)

Noted with you repeating my posts...

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=15321833&postcount=4380

Due to me having not be able to repeat myself,you now owed me 2 teh botel. :D

*joking only*

yourslovingly

28-11-2016, 05:54 AM

iicycold

28-11-2016, 01:37 PM

I'm interested to stay a night with a massage girl from a good massage center but most of them don't want to come over night to hotel stay and don't want to FJ even in massage center also. Very sad they will do HJ only with limited auto roam. Anybody know?

Since yr qns is so blunt w no detail description of the place u've gone 2 & the kind of payment u hv made, a normal-minded reader like me wn't knw wat type is consider good massage center. As tat i shall oso reply u jus as bluntly.

frm readin yr post, i knw...

-u wan a massage ger tat surely can cm ovr 2 yr rm @ nite
-u wan a ger tat surely does fj in mp

My ans :

- Bunga massage
- MM massage
- New Berry massage
- Happy 8 massage
- Kupu Kupu massage
- Indah2 massage
- Sri Kandy massage
- Moonlight massage

all abv allows u bring ger 2 yr rm 4 ovrnite,all abv allows fj in mp. If u wan good massage ger,jus tell mami yr request.

which massage center girls can come over night to hotels?

Al of the abv listed is my ans.

Jus 2 add, hj w roamin is subject 2 chemistry.

http://imgallery.avseesee.com/images/2016/11/28/91480a1e13933f7cbd2dd4ea59e98149.jpg

4 full body world-wide roamin,u will hv 2 first learn 2 pay lesser & then neg. Otherwise pay more & even more & get lousier & lousiest service. Theory quite simple,it's reli up 2 u.

fde83

28-11-2016, 01:42 PM

Buku massage. Is this a new joint?

iicycold

28-11-2016, 01:45 PM

Buku massage. Is this a new joint?

My bad,i amended it.

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=15363645&postcount=4544

Thx

tomcat007

28-11-2016, 01:53 PM

Buku massage. Is this a new joint?

Buku Massage

You must find the sacred book in order to derive the secret direction that will lead you to the joint where the cewek will bring you to nirvana.

Barnacles

28-11-2016, 02:32 PM

Hi guys,

I've read abit through the posts here, thanks to some for the info.. I'll be visiting batam for the first time in a long time alone tomorrow..

Be staying gideon hotel, just need to know if the spas there are shared around here are nearby..

Purpose of the trip mostly for spa.. just to relax and shop abit. of course if can find some pretty girls to book would be good, not a must..

Any bros here can help to advise on nearby booking joints/ spa. Not planning to travel out too much.. start somewhere nearby first.

fde83

28-11-2016, 02:35 PM

Buku Massage

You must find the sacred book in order to derive the secret direction that will lead you to the joint where the cewek will bring you to nirvana.

Hahaha... funny.

grandfather

28-11-2016, 02:39 PM

Barnacles

28-11-2016, 02:54 PM

60141
pls refer to the attached map.

Wow so many stars...

haha ok i shall slowly google and explore them

Means based on my hotel.. i booked the wrong location.. seems quite far from where i wanna be...

Guess i should read this forum first b4 i decide to book my hotel

mrcong

28-11-2016, 03:10 PM

Hi bros

Don't mind me asking.. when you all said morning go pick girl and then wait hotel, means pick already then they come your hotel ah??

lurpsexx

28-11-2016, 03:19 PM

Hi bros

Don't mind me asking.. when you all said morning go pick girl and then wait hotel, means pick already then they come your hotel ah??

Means you can either ask them to follow u back immed or u can state a time for them to come to you, after you've run some errands first.. Either way, the same rate applies.. She's your escort n will do your bidding for the day of hire..

mrcong

28-11-2016, 03:41 PM

Means you can either ask them to follow u back immed or u can state a time for them to come to you, after you've run some errands first.. Either way, the same rate applies.. She's your escort n will do your bidding for the day of hire..

Like that ah.. thanks.. I guess they open quite early right

nono1973

28-11-2016, 03:53 PM

Ya,i tink i see a Instar hotel smwhere ard there,so i guess it shld be the 1 near Instar. Got 2 confirm w nono cos i no sense of direction de...lol

Yes,it is the same shop opposite Instar.

I've by far not been buying anythg fake or non-origin frm there ovr the last few years. If it's fake,i'm confident i can tell the dif.

Ever since my China incident,i have been extremely careful of what i buy overseas,especially pharmaceutical drug related stuffs as my full time job require myself to deal with the like of HSA and AVA almost on a monthly basis,hehehe... its like part of my 职业病 (occupational habits).

Thanks for sharing this pharmacy, where exactly is this located?

I'm a little wary though, 480k for 4 tablets is far cheaper than the major pharmacies like Kimia or Century. My friend bought some from a slightly more dodgy pharmacy opposite Instar Hotel and whilst they were cheap, they turned out to be replica Cialis; I took one and it gave me a fever for an entire day.

Yes, according to the posted photo,its the one almost directly opposite Instar Hotel. Dodgy as it may seems to look like,the scale of this pharmacy is no smaller than most other pharmacy that has a lot of franchised branches all over indonesia,it sells many kind of drugs other pharmacy dont carry in Batam and it even have a clinic with doctors beside it ,sharing the same shop entrance. The staffs were well-verse with what they were selling and there seems to be more local indo Chinese customers there than the indo locals (something I observed and also, most local indo Chinese has one thing in common,they were more 'genuine-stuff-conscious'). I was the one who brought most of my friends there, and by far I have not encounter any replicated ones to-date (base on the type of things I bought there).

I have bought these "elixir" pills (not Cialis however) in a fairly large quantity and all of those who asked me to buy them tells me its the exact same thing as they have bought in Sillypore clinics (my buying friends were mostly more than 55+ of age who have been consuming those pills for at least a decade). The exact same thing bought in Malaysia is however costing around 20% lesser (comparing cheapest versus cheapest of the same).

The shop however sell the elixir pills at the lowest retail price as compare to the other pharmacies in Batam. How do I know? I spent almost half a day quite a few times when i am in Batam hunting down nearly all pharmacy in the area when this shop is sold out of a particular higher-end-brand which I bought regularly for my friends in Sillypore.

As always,I am no good with names, but the most expensive pharmacy I knew is at Nagoya Hill Mall itself, almost opposite Sakura Hotel,2nd place goes to the one almost opposite Da Vienna Hotel. Whenever anywhere has no stock of the 'things' I am looking for, "they" will surely have stock. Reason is simple, their stocks moved slowest due to their higher price. And they do not allow bargaining, hehehe...

There are still quite a few smaller scale ones around and some however were of a bigger franchise scale :

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/17/rWwpu.jpg

...which now reminds me as written in one of my earlier 2016 Batam summary before,i got totally piss off with one of the pharmacy staff and totally lose my temper the 2nd time in my nearly 3 year's Batam trips becos they were suppose to tell me the price when they have the stock and not quote me a good price when they DO NOT have the physical stock. Totally waste of my time to bargain with them. :mad:

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Becos of my crazy rage that time,i must have scare those girls who were on the same vehicle with me and I kind of regretted my action.

I couldn't remember the name of the pharmacy shop but I remember it has a Green sign board and during then,I "swore" never to buy anything from that shop,even when I found out it is the 2nd cheapest in Batam.

note : I don't blame those staffs anymore tho, becos according to my later back-tracked memory (after I cooled down),i realize there was a misunderstanding due to our language barrier. Remember? I don't speak their language and they also don't speak mine. Its afterall a local drug store.

Erm,erm...as I couldn't remember the shop's name and can only remember its small shop's green sign board ,so to date, I don't patronize small pharmacy shops with green sign board anymore,hehehe... Not becos I "swore" never to buy anything from there anymore (I was in a fit of quick anger that time, hence I swore) but more becos I felt kind of paiseh to face those staffs again.

(Imagining me going to another country and start throwing a tantrum like a little kid,hehehe...i admit,i did wrong)

I apologize for ranting so much from what it seems to be a simple pharmacy query.

Side note : For bros who wish to buy pharmaceutical drugs in Batam,do check their packing's expiry date if you plan to buy 1st and keep them for later use. Certain brand of drugs were slow moving and the staffs do have the tendency NOT to check their product expiry on a regular basis.

grandfather

28-11-2016, 04:43 PM

Wow so many stars...

haha ok i shall slowly google and explore them

Means based on my hotel.. i booked the wrong location.. seems quite far from where i wanna be...

Guess i should read this forum first b4 i decide to book my hotel

from what i read here, u closer to BCC that side which is more like SG newton circle type.

in red circle is more like GL. :D

all the STAR not all booking joint lah. just some of the places i visited or passby b4 lah.

iicycold

28-11-2016, 04:45 PM

Since yr qns is so blunt w no detail description of the place u've gone 2 & the kind of payment u hv made, a normal-minded reader like me wn't knw wat type is consider good massage center. As tat i shall oso reply u jus as bluntly.

frm readin yr post, i knw...

-u wan a massage ger tat surely can cm ovr 2 yr rm @ nite
-u wan a ger tat surely does fj in mp

My ans :

- Bunga massage
- MM massage
- New Berry massage
- Happy 8 massage
- Kupu Kupu massage
- Indah2 massage
- Sri Kandy massage
- Moonlight massage

all abv allows u bring ger 2 yr rm 4 ovrnite,all abv allows fj in mp. If u wan good massage ger,jus tell mami yr request.

Here,here...see the map on link below -

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=14125823&postcount=2

pls read the 1st page of this thread 4 btm basics...pls.

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showthread.php?p=14125823#post14125823

Map is not complete,the rest u will hav 2 do yr own read up in tis thread.

Thx.

(i'm reply sm1 who pm me asking for loc)

Barnacles

28-11-2016, 05:10 PM

from what i read here, u closer to BCC that side which is more like SG newton circle type.

in red circle is more like GL. :D

all the STAR not all booking joint lah. just some of the places i visited or passby b4 lah.

Haha so the girls there are more atas at my area la?? means more $$??

Any reccomendations?? i'm exploring on my own, but since this is really to wind down, i dun really wanna over travel alot..

Black Page

28-11-2016, 06:52 PM

when she is showering , im bastard , i go check her bag ( want to see got knife , got gun or whatever . hahahaha later she rob me how )
all i find was a sport bra , a wet underwear and short and some girls stuffs .

:eek: Not really a gentleman's action... There's nothing more private than a personal bag and the personal items that a girl might keep there.
What would have been your reaction, if you came out of the bathroom and found her inspecting your personal bag?:confused:

I understand your willing to be cautious with someone unknown, which is totally understandable and advisable, but we should also not forget that security worries are on the two sides: what is the feeling of a young girl following a 100% unknown foreign man in his room? Who can help her if he gets violent or rude? It happened already that some lady was even killed in a hotel room of Batam, and nobody was recognized as guilty.

grandfather

29-11-2016, 08:34 AM

nono1973

29-11-2016, 08:45 AM

Finally,its here in Batam...hehehe...in Batam Blitz Theater,Kepri Mall and Harbour Bay Mall. Do however note that Harbour Bay Mall's screening timing keep changing on this movie,today you see it,2morow you may not.

Death Note
Light Up the New World

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The Story :

10 years has passed since the confrontation between Kira and L. Again, Shinigami sends death notes to the ground and due to this, the world soon falls into chaos. Tsukuru (Masahiro Higashide) is a member of the Death Note special task force team with 6 other investigators including Matsuda who experienced the Kira case of 10 years ago.

Mass murders caused by the death note takes place on Wall Street in the U.S., Shibuya in Japan and other places. World famous private investigator Ryuzaki (Sosuke Ikematsu), who is the rightful successor of L, also investigates the mass murders. They discover that 6 death notes exists in the world.

A computer virus called Kira spreads in the world. A message in the Kira virus says to turn in 6 death notes.

A person who has 6 death notes overwhelm the world. The confrontation begins between the person who wants Kira’s revival and the people who want to stop it.

The Trailer :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGIvRcpyhQg

Oh,i forget to say...this movie as stated in Blitz's website,has no English subtitle. It only has indo substitles tho and spoken language on screen is in Japanese.

Anyway,i doubt this movie is suitable for me due to the language barrier,i am going to wait for the online version and then...hehehe...for those who understand bahasa or Japanese and yet going to watch this movie,...dont forget not to Eat and Drink in the theater...hehehe...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/28/cVpij.gif

By the way,this movie was a hit in Sillypore box office,and it score a 3.5/5 over the internet rating,so do enjoy the movie if you are fated to watch it!

Beginning of December is approaching,time i should be planning to go to Batam to look for my Apples,hehehe... :D

http://gifyu.com/images/Ryuk5.gif

The signification of Apple/s in my eyes,hehehe...

tomcat007

29-11-2016, 10:15 AM

Haha so the girls there are more atas at my area la?? means more $$??

Any reccomendations?? i'm exploring on my own, but since this is really to wind down, i dun really wanna over travel alot..

If possible to get a refund or change your hotel, then do it if mongering is important to you this trip. Else, Gideon Hotel area is really not known for having working ladies available. But, good food, yes. Plenty.

So far, I only know of 1 massage joint that's got ++ (b2b, hj, fj) services and that place has got nothing to shout about. Expensive too. I don't roam that area much enough to know it very well too..

Barnacles

29-11-2016, 10:23 AM

i am too a newbies in batam too.
like NoNo say, read and study and learn.
:)
i am still learning and reading from senior here too.:D

haha no choice i'm going in later,, made a last min booking to go.. so not much time to really read and study..

Barnacles

29-11-2016, 10:26 AM

If possible to get a refund or change your hotel, then do it if mongering is important to you this trip. Else, Gideon Hotel area is really not known for having working ladies available. But, good food, yes. Plenty.

So far, I only know of 1 massage joint that's got ++ (b2b, hj, fj) services and that place has got nothing to shout about. Expensive too. I don't roam that area much enough to know it very well too..

Icic, guess abit too late for that.. nvm i shall try and roam.. maybe who knows might have some hidden gems.. haha thanks for all the tips guys..

nono1973

29-11-2016, 10:48 AM

Icic, guess abit too late for that.. nvm i shall try and roam.. maybe who knows might have some hidden gems.. haha thanks for all the tips guys..

Plan B,if cannot change hotel,then the means of transporting you to your desire location will be KEY and travelling time from where you stay to the cheonging place (or most regular popular places) would cost you no more than 10 mins from point A to point B.

In your area where you stay,its where most good food places are. There is a BCS Mall near your hotel,one of the busier mall in Batam and it comes with a theater too. They are within 5 mins walk from your hotel.

If you are staying in Gideon,dont drink from the tap nor use the water from the tap to boil.

Good luck and enjoy! ;)

Barnacles

29-11-2016, 10:57 AM

Plan B,if cannot change hotel,then the means of transporting you to your desire location will be KEY and travelling time from where you stay to the cheonging place (or most regular popular places) would cost you no more than 10 mins from point A to point B.

In your area where you stay,its where most good food places are. There is a BCS Mall near your hotel,one of the busier mall in Batam and it comes with a theater too. They are within 5 mins walk from your hotel.

If you are staying in Gideon,dont drink from the tap nor use the water from the tap to boil.

Good luck and enjoy! ;)

Thanks for the heads up, i never used tap water overseas not even for boiling, always use the mineral water provided.. or if not will buy..

Roger that on the food.. will slowly explore.. guess not much mongering for this trip.. maybe luck may change.. never know..

next trip will plan way b4..

mrcong

29-11-2016, 04:29 PM

Hey Bros.

Got hotels here don't accept in call girls one ah? I kena it now.

nono1973

29-11-2016, 05:30 PM

Reached harbourbay in the morning and took a cab to hotel .
As soon as I got wifi, got contacted by fellow sammy. Met 5 mins later,
and brought me to nagoya mall to get sim card and lunch after booking joints.

It took me quite a while to finish reading your FR a few times. Each time i finished reading, I have been thinking what was your objective of going to Batam?

kupukupu, happy 8 then bunga: all either not suitable, or little variety

Now, with the company of a taxi driver i am curious on whats the time you went for girl-shopping? Let me trace back,you got to Batam on 15th Nov 2016,Tuesday as you said you returned on 17th Nov 2016 since you are staying for 3D2N.

Its a weekday,Kupu,Happy 8 and Bunga should have add up to have about 50 girls during the early noon,so i am curious on the time you reach those booking joints.

Then went to Sri kandy, saw one I liked and jumped on it. Price 1.2 bargin down from 1.3. Made the big mistake of not asking the mami more questions.

Just asked things like speak english, how old, hav babies etc. but DID NOT ASK THE NAME. @!**!!@ EREN*&^%$#

It is your 1st Batam trip. You not only made ONE big mistake,you made quite a few mistakes. And those mistakes were mostly very basic common sense mistakes (sorry bro,i dont mean any offence here,just stating the truth).

I really hope you learn from this trip becos if you dont, speaking from just my view alone,its worrying... You are likely to drag the entire group (whoever is with you) to some disasters in a matter of time to come. Every newbie will make mistakes in one way or another during their Batam virgin trip,just try not to make them again.

Other bros hav warned of this girl before.

The name Eren shows up 1st on 11/11 post by bro fde83.

All 3 of us picked girls from SK. Sammyfriend has a regular driver who delivers the girls to our hotel at 5pm.

Sounds like you depended quite a bit on sammyfriend.

First thing she asks me is whether I paid mami 1.3 or 1.2. I told her, mami
agreed on 1.2. She keeps quiet, then says we do now than I want to sleep.

Here she is, showing dominance over you for the 1st time. Completely feeling at ease on hecking care you and just go ahead to do what she likes. Previous guy/s before you must have set some very bad examples of spoiling her.

Standing in your position,if i want to extend her,i will ask for 1 million rupiah. I have the whole night to bargain with her anyway.

Just a personal point of view if i were to be in your shoe.

No BJ, she says she don't like. The rest is okay. After the job she say sleep,
ask me to wake her up for dinner.

BBBJ is only specially meant for her BF/s or customers she likes,hehehe...no,you are none of the 2.

Base on what I understood from reading.

7pm wake her up, go down to friends room. Sammyfriends cewek is mabok.

Hmm...someone who drinks too much but well,since it is the girl who drinks too much and not the player,it should be fine. Sammyfriend is an intelligent chap, 女人不醉，男人没机会。(if the girls were not drunk,the guy/s got no chance)

All including driver go to weywey for seafood. 900k for 7.

Not too bad a price for the sea food.

Then go to alegro for ktv. 350k for a tower. My girl says don't want to go ktv, wants to go clubbing. But we decided not to anyway.

Another show of dominance over you again...

Go back to room. Ask me to extend I agree as she got gfe when outside partying. Then it goes bad.

...and again.

Play hand phone than says tired. Have a quickie then sleep. Sleep cannot cuddle, cannot touch. WTF

She practically push you over now.

Next morning wake her up another round then she immediately packs up and ask for money to extend.

Try to think back about your feeling at that moment of time.

Do you feel a few seconds of relieve after she left at that moment?

Gives her 1.2 then she ask for taxi fair, give that then ask for food money. give that too then tell her to come back at 5.

Mind if i ask, how much was taxi fare and the food money you gave her?

Thank you.

_______________

2nd day sammyfriend no longer with us.
I'll skip the shopping and other parts.

With someone who leads you along and you didnt really learned much.You missed out the ability to solve few basic 1st hand problem faced,example,deeper communication with the OKTs,observing the girl's physical behaviour,understanding her etc..

My friend and my girl turns up 15 mins early. Do the deed then she ask again , "can go clubbing". decide to give in a little and say live band.
She's happy, then fellows routine and goes and sleep again. Lanlan. what to do?

She's been taking the lead all along,dominating over you and your entire group to the fullest base on my understanding after reading your post.

Go out for dinner , 4 of us at city walk food court, then head to square club.
Good music at the club but thin crowd. drinks quite x. don't sell towers only jugs for 280k ++.
Throughout the night at the club, girl pester me for $ to buy obat for herself. Ask for 400k. I refused.

Thats your wisest move in your whole FR,the only part you didn't give in to her dominance over you.

After 3 jugs and vodka. We go back to hotel both quite mabok. She then tells
me the obat only for crazy sex!! Not party drug. Too mabok to resist CRAZY SEX, I tell her she go buy outside , take outside then come back. I don't want to know anything about it. She says ok. One hour later she comes back.

You are lucky on this one,and base on my experience,you are indeed very very lucky in this trip. Beside the crazy sex,she could have also given you an even unforgetable crazy trip if your girl has other ulterior motives or if you are getting wechat girls who knows how to play the games much better.

Then the crazy sex begins:

With the help of V on my side we go for 30 mins non stop. till she complain pain and won't continue. ask for HJ, gives half fuck one. In the end I have to finish myself, but she got 5 orgasm.

Yep, other brother comment that we got to service her, she should be paying us. Anyway back to routine, sleep cannot touch, cannot hug.

Next morning, she say still pain so I just tell her to go. Give her sg $50 tips
and that that.

Other bros has already comment on the amount of tips you gave,so i shall skip this part. The more you pay,the less your returns,and welcome to Batam.

On the whole about this crazy sex thing, i apologize to you here in advance as what i am about to say hereon may not sound nice but it is by no means meant to be offending and its purely just my personal point of view after reading your FR.

In this crazy sex scene,she is portraying herself like a master (on bed) and you portraited yourself more like a sex slave on V. She came 5 times,and you didnt. In sleep,yet no hugging nor touching (aka roaming). End of all the 'crazy sex' action,you end up the need to DIY. Try putting yourself in your girl's shoe,what will she be thinking during that moment? If i am her,i may have thought that someone is willing to pay me to become MY sex toy. Not bad,easy money too.

Having said the above,i also need to emphasis this,everyone plays the game differently. I do have a friend,i believe bro Tom knew him in person too. He is able to accept girls who doesnt allow roaming of breast during a FJ session,no bbbj,no kissing,no moaning ,no intimacy etc.

One type of rice,feed thousand kind of men. Everyone have a different type of fetish.

My conclusion is if you want some one to party with, choose her. great GFE
outside the room. Inside the room Sex is very commercial. No GFE. Do the job then thats it.

Thank you for your recommendation,i am likely to be heading to Sri kandy to see who this Eren is...and then recommend it to my friend (Bro S) who could enjoy a girl who "doesnt allow roaming during a FJ (and in sleep),no bbbj,no kissing,no moaning ,no intimacy etc. ",i think there's a chance he may like Eren,hehehe...he is even likely to return to bonk her again too (but his tip would often be similar to what i would normally give,which is no more than 200k rupiah a night).

i was about to list out all the mistakes you made in your trip base on my own perspective but then,i think i shall reserve that part for the time being. It would be better for you to realize where you didnt do right rather than spelling it out all for you. I am not here to judge but if you do not know what went not-right in your trip,then unlikely Batam would be a place suitable for you.

You do have a very lucky and fulfilling trip this time round,and the only advise i could think of for you right now is to start with step number one,...read :

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showthread.php?t=586297

Sincerely thank you for sharing your experience. Thank you more for having the courage to share and thank you for allowing the other bros to learn from your experience (the good and the not-so-good). If you are still going to Batam the next time round again,hope you can gain as much from this trip's experience and enjoy better (if you find Batam is good enough).

Cheers!

Black Page

29-11-2016, 05:31 PM

Thanks for the heads up, i never used tap water overseas not even for boiling, always use the mineral water provided.. or if not will buy..
Do you go to eat at restaurants "overseas"? :rolleyes:

5959

29-11-2016, 06:42 PM

Hi

Any bro going on 10 Dec to 12 Dec?

Kindly pm me

Thanks

syt4me

29-11-2016, 07:34 PM

This is for nono,

Thanx for taking the time to go through my post.

Well let's start with my fr from before. I guess it is to show other newbies to batam what can go right or wrong.
And in retrospect what seems to some as bad might actually be not so bad after all.

The term I would like to use for my trip is a "learning experience". I know many bros won't post their stupidity online,
but then again this is where we share. I really appreciate reading all the post you guys share, and felt that I should do my part as well.
The newbies can learn from my mistakes and the seasoned chiongsters can have a laugh.

Okay time to answer your questions.

We stared prowling at about 1:30. A little late I know but the tummy was hungry.

I can't remember exactly but know that we started at Kupukupu. Only 4 gals sitting there, none to our taste. Went to 4 others, only bunga had the numbers, but still not the looks.
Got to Sri Kandy about 2:15.
I know bro fde83 posted a "avoid at all cost EREN". But as I said I forgot to ask the name. I don't speak bahasa, sammyfriend translated for me.
Not polite to ask someone you met the first day to translate so much DETAILS.
Which is also why I posted GREEN HAIR, so no one could miss that.

Now my biggest mistake was letting her go get her obat. Then again, I didn't pay for it, she took it before she came back, and I honestly don't even know what type it was .
Could have been legal spanish fly or german sex drops. Then again, no obat no crazy sex.

To be cont-

syt4me

29-11-2016, 07:53 PM

Just to clarify on one point, she let you autoroam, only when she wants to sleep,
no touching, hugging or anything.
I guess I was expect more GFE and cuddle up to sleep.

Another point to make is that the crazy sex was gooooood. Enough ooooo to make the point.
Reason I didn't come, V and alcohol. V makes you stay hard, but for some people like me also takes longer to come. Add to that the alcohol; I was very drunk.
Ok another fr on the crazy sex with more detail. I said about 30 mins, but I didn't actually look at a watch. Try 7 or 8 different positions, average 4 to 5 mins each position.
Surprisingly no torn ligament, cramps or sprain appendices.
Anyway after a while it becomes more like a gym workout - sweat, panting.
When she complained about pain, I was actually a little relieved. Try having a gym workout drunk.
You get the point.

To be cont-

syt4me

29-11-2016, 08:14 PM

fde83

29-11-2016, 08:37 PM

Thank you brosyt4me for sharing. U dont have to apologies on the tipping part bro. Once again theres so many cheongsters who over tip that we never heard of or stories from ceweks on how many tips thet get from other customers. My hats off to you for sharing the bad experince. Not many will share this part of thier FR.

Ok im writing this while my cewek is sleeping on my shoulders. December 14 cant get any closer (my next trip)

On a side note, i when to good one massge and get a 200k hj. I dont mind paying the extra 50k tip for her massage. Strong and hard. Helen from bandung

tomcat007

29-11-2016, 10:28 PM

I guess one point that majority of the bros here won't understand is that.. if you're unhappy with her, why extend for the second night? To me, that's the only mistake you made. Forgetting about warning is understandable, hastily making a booking is forgivable, especially as you already been to several joints and not much girls that is suitable for you available.

Then, suddenly you see a pretty one.. I would have made that mistake myself too.

But, to have to "endured" those nonsense from her, and then to extend her again, hmm... Like another bro said, he knew of bros who would have thrown her 20k rp for ojet and there her out of the room. I won't go to that extend. But, I would get a fuck out of her, then bring her back to her joint for partial refund.

@fde83, bro, Helen from where? Can pm me her number if you have it?

tomcat007

29-11-2016, 10:36 PM

Thank you for your recommendation,i am likely to be heading to Sri kandy to see who this Eren is...and then recommend it to my friend (Bro S) who could enjoy a girl who "doesnt allow roaming during a FJ (and in sleep),no bbbj,no kissing,no moaning ,no intimacy etc. ",i think there's a chance he may like Eren,hehehe...he is even likely to return to bonk her again too (but his tip would often be similar to what i would normally give,which is no more than 200k rupiah a night).

Precisely.. I'm surprised that places like Bunga and Kupu2 are sellout on weekdays??? These place don't exactly have the cheapest price around.. Especially Bunga (although one of my best booking came from here. Show you her video when we next meet..)

You like that say Bro S, good meh.... I wonder how he is now..

nono1973

29-11-2016, 10:46 PM

...it's fine for the piss poor service and reward her handsomely for it. Even my best girl i only give 300k.

My best girlsss only get 200k max...since nearly 3 years ago until now,there's no change. But i am not afraid to go out with you who tip maximum 300k becos i know your worst girl most likely gets nothing,hehehe...

The thing i dont like is to have friends where i tip 200k,you tip 2000k and that is being belittling me in front of everyone we both knew (illustration words). Shows that the friend/s who did that ,has a different cheonging frequency with me.

Eren is meant for Bro S,hehehe...but he surely wont have to pay 1.2 million rupiah booking fee for her,hehehe...i side bet with you 5 rupiah,he wont tip more than 150k per night,hehehe...

I have said this before,to pay more (may be for less),any 10 year old kid can also do that...but to pay lesser and yet enjoy better or more for the same 'apple',not everyone can (i mean most couldnt). I enjoy my wins,i enjoyed my girl,i enjoyed the challenge that comes with it,hehehe...its afterall a 'game' in a big entertainment world to me where i have nothing much to lose.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/29/QDRYE.gif

Thank heaven you didnt share where to find your 8.5/10 ,800k petite SSYT who hasnt gave birth before,otherwise she would have cost 1.5 million rupiah by now. ;)

Just a personal point of view.

Thanks to the inputs from the forum, I'm here to share new updates

Update to Octopuss Men's Health & Executive Spa room packages
- President Suite: 638.000
- Suite: 506.000
- Executive: 445.500
- Facilities: 110.000

FJ is 700.000 or 900.000 depending on the quality of the girls you choose (rates given by the counter)

Thank you for your update.

Have a good day!

To be exact, Silver category gals are priced at 745k and Gold category gals are priced at 945k

Thank you for the update too.

Looks like its soon to be becoming a yearly thing for Octopuss Spa.

Maybe I should try play the batam newbie and see if I can get extra discount...

Batam newbie can speak bahasa? Hehehe...:D

any follow up on tis? Wat happen 2 the girl? ok,i knw she's dead but who/wat kills her?

I notice bro BFOMF5,bro Micmac,bro Newyorker and bro Kohonly disappearing...:D

Leoric

29-11-2016, 11:15 PM

fde83

30-11-2016, 12:09 AM

@fde83, bro, Helen from where? Can pm me her number if you have it?

Bro tomcat, shes from good one massage like i mention earlier. Syt from bandung. She charge hj 200k, fj 350k. The extra 50k is for her massage tip if opt for less 50k then she right away stop the massage but i suggest go for the massage, not those piano type.Some gals will just jerk your cock but she will lick your nip right till you pop your cherry.

Just watch rumah malaikat (indo horror film) at nagoya hill mall, ending was crap thou. Now eating at Tenda Biru a road side food, infront of Lusys oaks house bar & restaurant (kampung bule area). 1 ayam penyet, 1 cap cay, 1 sop tulang, 1 kerang rebus, 2 plate of rice, 1 teh o, 1 teh o beng, 1 bottle aqua. Total bill, 105k

Anyway planning next month on 14th to book a gal from joints and 2nd day will hit up a few massage places

Black Page

30-11-2016, 01:55 AM

I guess one point that majority of the bros here won't understand is that.. if you're unhappy with her, why extend for the second night?

Masochism

To me, that's the only mistake you made. Forgetting about warning is understandable, hastily making a booking is forgivable,..........

Totally agree.
But please note how well the girl can "sense" weakness and then take the dominant role. There are sharks indeed, just looking for the small fish.

Black Page

30-11-2016, 02:17 AM

My main complaints of her was the sleep no touch part and the fact that she was continually wanting to do this and that. I told her that I came with friends and cannot make the decision without them. She complained about that too. She wanted to go clubbing, no one else did. Wanted to go newton, then said titanium etc.
If you are interested to know my opinion, you did nothing so terribly wrong. Shit happens and everyone makes mistakes. We learn and try to not repeat the same (but we always find new ones ;)).

The only terribly wrong thing is letting her sensing your weakness and take the lead. The worst thing to do in a P4P relationship is to leave the girl to take the leadership and stay in a subordinate position. This is what we understand from your story, are you fully aware of that or not.

You might be used to a cultural environment (say, especially like in Korea, but the same happens in many Asian countries) where the girlfriend always follows her man and plays the submissive role. Then, you might not have the "antibodies" developed to defense against a shark girl. You jump to a place where most girls are well used to treat a different man every day and have developed their strength against a variety of obstacles, including rude customers, pimps who want to exploit them, jealous friends, a husband in the past, etc. It is not surprising that some of them, if not with a very kind and smooth character, show their claws as soon as they see the opportunity.

About reading all the post about batam b4 going, I did . Spent 3 weeks going thru your beginners guide, got info from other bros post like black page and
others. There are hundreds of pages and I can only remember that much. Can't actually be going thru post after post in a booking joint.
:

Wrong. Do not overplan. You did your homework, you read many pages, you learned the basics, then you have to find your way. Everyone has his style and finds different interests.
DO NOT expect to repeat what I reported in my stories. We are different. Learn about pitfalls, places, then go to explore your way.
By the way, as I always note, there has been a variety and quantity of fails in my days in Batam, which I did not always report. Big success is build over mistakes. You will not sleep with Miss Indonesia, without accepting to suffer also several negative adventures.

Maybe next time I go I can tag along with some seasoned fellows like you. Or I can go solo and "wing it".:
Stop looking at others and explore. Prudent and considerate, but go. One will never learn to swim without leaving the floating device.

tomcat007

30-11-2016, 02:42 AM

....your worst girl most likely gets nothing,hehehe...

Eren is meant for Bro S,hehehe...but he surely wont have to pay 1.2 million rupiah booking fee for her,hehehe...i side bet with you 5 rupiah,he wont tip more than 150k per night,hehehe...

Batam newbie can speak bahasa? Hehehe...:D

I notice bro BFOMF5,bro Micmac,bro Newyorker and bro Kohonly disappearing...:D

Yes, that's right. Buy only once I had to throw the girl out and she gets nothing from me. Not even 20k for ojet. She will crawl back to her den if she has to. For my time in Batam, I've only tipped 3 girls 300k (one of them I ended up rtf'ing her for 9 months, min 3D2N each time). The last girl whom I prepared 300k for, did something stupid and it was reduced to 100k. The 21 years old ssyt from Bunga who milked me dry with 5 shots and that's before we went to sleep the previous night. Usually it's 3-4 rounds max inclusive of the morning shot. So, you can see how hard she worked. But, she got stupid and denied me the morning shot, so I reduced her tip. I had a chance to book her again the following week but she told me she had to leave at 3am (!!!), so booking no go.

No need to side bet. I also know the range of tips he gave. Hehe..

It's true. It's quite difficult to play the newbie cos sometimes when the communication gets difficult, the bahasa starts coming out and picar lobang...

To the bro who asked about the girl who got murdered in Hotel Batam (or something like that), well, the grapevine is that she was killed by her boyfriend. Worst thing is, she was the one who booked the room, so there is no record of the guy's identity. And, small hotel got no CCTV too. Poor thing...

tomcat007

30-11-2016, 02:53 AM

Bro tomcat, shes from good one massage like i mention earlier. Syt from bandung. She charge hj 200k, fj 350k. The extra 50k is for her massage tip if opt for less 50k then she right away stop the massage but i suggest go for the massage, not those piano type.Some gals will just jerk your cock but she will lick your nip right till you pop your cherry.

Good One Massage? OK, thanks.

OK, got the location, thanks to mas Google Map. It's opposite a joint that i used to frequently visit.

tomcat007

30-11-2016, 10:09 AM

I'll be there 3-5 Dec.

VVR1

30-11-2016, 10:37 AM

fde83

30-11-2016, 12:29 PM

Have some time to kill before heading for afternoon ferry. Have any bros here ever come across shops that sells those police (army also can) stuff, such as boots, belt, vest, pouches etc. (Not those roadside stalls though). Tqvm. Regards.

Nagoya hill mall level 1 there's one, just in front of entrance, also sell brassknuckle

Podomoro sambel idjo (just beside the Link, left side if u coming out from it) 3x ayam sambel idjo with rice plus 4 teh obeng, total bill is 73k. Wait is a killer thou but its well worth it.

kakarlu

30-11-2016, 05:09 PM

Hi bro here ,

Just to chk if someone manage to up a massage girl at davienna spa ? I did saw few good looking and nice figure girls. But don't know how to break the ice for the service . They are professional on massage .. any idea to help me up

tomcat007

30-11-2016, 05:29 PM

Interesting. Where is this Spa?

Not wanting to belittle any cewek there, I do believe that if your offer is good enough, there's always a chance that you can get to up the girl of your choice. If money don't work, then use kc lor. Sometimes, you may need to go there a couple of times...

nono1973

30-11-2016, 05:33 PM

This is for nono,

Thanx for taking the time to go through my post.

Thank you once again becos with your further reply to my post,i was able to further analysis your experience better.

Well let's start with my fr from before. I guess it is to show other newbies to batam what can go right or wrong.
And in retrospect what seems to some as bad might actually be not so bad after all.

Every FR here is a learning experience for myself up till today. Believe it or not,i was once there where you were standing before (just not in Batam) and thereafter, I also witness others who once upon a time ago make the same choice as you.

The term I would like to use for my trip is a "learning experience". I know many bros won't post their stupidity online,
but then again this is where we share. I really appreciate reading all the post you guys share, and felt that I should do my part as well.
The newbies can learn from my mistakes and the seasoned chiongsters can have a laugh.

Nothing should be branded as stupid when it comes to detail and sincere sharing (from my own perspective). Show me any senior or seasoned bro here who didn't make any mistake/s when they were once a newbie. I bet 5 rupiah with you that there's none.

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We all learn as we grow.

Okay time to answer your questions.

We stared prowling at about 1:30. A little late I know but the tummy was hungry.

130pm Batam time,only right to have lunch at that hour since its 230pm Singapore time. Its a Tuesday,i am surprise they have so little girls at that hour. Interesting,..you see, once you shared the timing of your visit ,it becomes I am learning from you now,hehehe...

I can't remember exactly but know that we started at Kupukupu. Only 4 gals sitting there, none to our taste. Went to 4 others, only bunga had the numbers, but still not the looks.
Got to Sri Kandy about 2:15.

Looks to me,KupuKupu's business is getting better than before.

I notice something here,more girls in the joint = lesser business and lesser business could mean a few things. Its a weekday, the girls not so good ,poor reputation and/or they are priced too high. My target for booking joints nowadays are those that can have their girls booked off fastest even on a weekday. (I don't visit many joints just to view their girls,i observe)

I will have to gauge the percentage over the total number of girls there versus the number of them left to be chosen. Of course if you wish to see more girls,you will need to be at the right place on the right time,but it wont means they are good. Luck still plays an important.

Just sharing my experience here.

I know bro fde83 posted a "avoid at all cost EREN". But as I said I forgot to ask the name. I don't speak bahasa, sammyfriend translated for me.
Not polite to ask someone you met the first day to translate so much

Most SYTs are problematic in Batam (say about 60%-70% of them). When I say SYTs here,i am referring to those below 23 years old,7.5/10 above looks and have never given birth before.

A little advise here which I was very close to spelling it out to you in my previous post to you but I was holding it back.

Collect name card from the joint where you book a girl. Ask it from the OKT whom you book from your girl from,,so you have the OKT's name (and contact) now, next is ask the OKT for your girl's name. With a "translator", you lost a chance to solve all the 1st hand issue and one of them would be communicating with the OKT even when you both do not exactly understand each other. Some OKTs will even write the name of your girl you booked on the back of their name card while some will even write down those you didn't book yet but has already been bookmarked by you (otherwise,you can also ask and he/she will be happy to write it down).

Remember, with the name card on hand,the girls who saw you take it will know one thing for sure, you have the ability to contact their OKT.

DETAILS.
Which is also why I posted GREEN HAIR, so no one could miss that.

Thumbs up to you on this one!

Now my biggest mistake was letting her go get her obat. Then again, I didn't pay for it, she took it before she came back, and I honestly don't even know what type it was .
Could have been legal spanish fly or german sex drops. Then again, no obat no crazy sex.

I don't think I wish to discuss the type of drugs here in the public forum,those were the ones that could make her feeling agitated when the addiction kicks in. Her agitation was also being portrayed in the hyperactivity during your written FR.

Just to clarify on one point, she let you autoroam, only when she wants to sleep,
no touching, hugging or anything.
I guess I was expect more GFE and cuddle up to sleep.

Noted.

My main complaints of her was the sleep no touch part and the fact that she was
continually wanting to do this and that. I told her that I came with friends and cannot make the decision without them.
She complained about that too. She wanted to go clubbing, no one else did. Wanted to go newton, then said titanium etc.

When you are looking for the SYT,be prepare for all these type. With what you just mentioned above, you MAY probably be able to book her around 500k to 800k rupiah during a weekday NOT from her booking joint.

(notice why she ask you how much you pay for her booking? Think...)

Enough said here.

starocean

30-11-2016, 05:34 PM

nono1973

30-11-2016, 05:35 PM

I know I tipped her too much. Sorry guys about that, but I did run out of idr, and had to change more after she left.

No need to be sorry or even feel sorry as long as you have learned what went not-right. And I am not talking about over-tipping nor spoiling the market etc but instead it is MORE on the message you carry over to a not-so-good girl with your tips.

You are telling the girls,with lousy service,lousy attitude..i can get a big fat tip too,the rest of the girls with good attitude who offered fantastically good service only gets back a fraction from my bad and worse.

Now do you notice what went not-right here? I pity her next and other future customers, hehehe...well...other than bro S of course,hehehe...

Also to answer your question about how much i gave her for taxi and lunch. 100k for 3 taxi rides and lunch.

Thank you.

One question to ask: I thought that if you paid a certain amount for the first night, the second would be the same.
Never thought of bargaining lower for the second night.

Ask you again, why do you think she ask you how much you pay for her booking from the joint in the beginning? And later press you on the booking extension (this is something uncommon among girls in booking joint). I bet my 5 rupiah with you,if you were to reject her extension of booking during then,the price of re-booking her for a million rupiah "will not be too difficult" to achieve (i don't dare use the word 'easy' here, but I believe 800k would still be possible). And she earns way more when you pay directly to her.

Note : Not every girl is the same

I wouldn't say my friend bro S would be able to book her for less than 1.2 million rupiah in my previous post for nothing,hehehe...

Alternative to bargaining for better price, you can also bargain for better service too since the ball is in your hand.

She may ask me : Kor kor,you want to extend another night with me?

My answer : See how's your service 1st,if tonight your service very very good and you make me very Happy, extend 3 more nights also No problem (which of course is a lie).

And if you are as good as bro S, you can get both the good service AND a better price,hehehe... Money is yours and it would be your call how to spend it.

Barter trade deal,hehehe...you win,she win,everybody wins. ;)

Eren is meant for Bro S,hehehe...but he surely wont have to pay 1.2 million rupiah booking fee for her,hehehe...i side bet with you 5 rupiah,he wont tip more than 150k per night,hehehe...

...and I used a strong word there.

By paying lesser, both you and your girl is NOT losing. You pay less, the girls get to earn more and who knows if your girl knows you can understand the logic behind it which she already knew, you might even get better service out of her.

A win-win situation for both the service provider and the person on the receiving end.

I shant discuss any further on this topic. (as it already cross my line here) The rest of the scenario, you will have to use your imagination to pro-create becos in Batam anything and everything is possible. I have said before,pay high, gets lesser.Pay less to get more...Welcome to Batam Island!

About reading all the post about batam b4 going, I did . Spent 3 weeks going thru your beginners guide, got info from other bros post like black page and
others. There are hundreds of pages and I can only remember that much. Can't actually be going thru post after post in a booking joint.
Maybe next time I go I can tag along with some seasoned fellows like you. Or I can go solo and "wing it".

Every Batam trip is a learning trip. The moment I think I know Batam well enough will be the day I start failing.

You are at step number one now in Batam and once you get pass step number two and three, things will start going smoothly.

Step no.1 when in Batam : Drop your Expectation by at least half on everything.

Step no. 2 : Find out where your most enjoyable time in Batam is,and work from there onward.

Step no.3 : Dwell, understand and enjoy.

If fate allows it,we can link up for a smoke or a drink. But cheonging together...I think for the time being,i need go dwell on my own treasure box of apples 1st. So many apples in my treasure boxes in Batam,but I have so little time to enjoy them....hehehe...who knows one day you will also be able to gather your 'apples' too.

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Well my next trip is to bkk early next year to try out bjbars and what else they have to offer.

Have a good Bangkok trip.

Apply step 1 to step 3,anywhere you go in the world, you will enjoy better...hehehe...

Hopefully won't see any green hair on my next trip to batam.:eek:

Sounds like you are facing some green hair monster,hehehe...

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I believe after your reply to my previous post that were address to you and my current reply to you,...you most likely already roughly knew where you stand in your last Batam trip,the things you didn't do right and the situation that went not-right.

Start step number one now...any of your trips wont have a chance to turn out too bad,hehehe... and may you have a better next trip.

Cheers!

syt4me

30-11-2016, 06:35 PM

Thanx for all the positve comments bros. I think that for my next trip I might spend more time
exploring.

Perhaps a booking joint for 1 night, ktv gal another then maybe newton or massage gal the last. Dunno if massage girl can be booked for the night but can sure try and ask.

I had a friend who actually waited for the bartender at a club to finish work,
and had her from about 3am to 9am for 500k.
From what he told me, he just sat at the bar and talked to her the whole night,
after about 2 hrs she made the offer to meet him after for 500k.
So I guess nothing is impossible.

Nono,

I did take the name card from the joints. Did speak to the okt, and the green haired monster
was looking at me and smiling. After the disappointments in the other joints,
I jumped at the chance at the first skinny syt that appealed to me. Guess I am one that goes for looks. We had already gone to so many joints,
and there were only a few remaining ones left that we knew of. We also knew that it was getting a little late, so I guess we all jumped made rash decisions.
Guess everyone is different, for me, if the girl doesn't appeal to me, I can't get it up. No matter how many holes she offers.

syt4me

30-11-2016, 06:48 PM

microdjsim

30-11-2016, 07:18 PM

Continuation-

The thing about dropping expectations I understand. I have never booked escorts before,
the type like in batam, where you can bring them out for meals, movie and partying. So didn't really know what to expect. What I wanted was the GFE feel.
In other words companionship. If I only wanted to get laid, I would have gone for 3 ST with 3 different girls. To get an escort in sg to accompany you to do all
those things then 3 rounds of sex would cost in the thousands.

END-

depend on luck one.... most SYT don't offer such GFE level and some do. I did such before, where i bring her go out to watch movie, eat dinner, supper, etc. no sex involve. not bad la... she quiet accommodating. Take note, she is not SYT. lol.

tomcat007

30-11-2016, 07:47 PM

Try looking at 24-28/9 age range, I've the best experience from girls this age range. So good until I've to run away from them. Bro S will know..

Also, sometimes, gfe'ness have to cultivate. I'm now hitting it off with a 21 y/o but she's not from a joint. She's freelance, but at only 21, she's good in her service, comm, and gfe'ness. Not the drop dead pretty type though. Passable at 6/10. But I enjoyed my time with her most, despite she only get $25 out of the short time deal. I'm meeting her this Saturday and this is when she start to earn her money.

tomcat007

30-11-2016, 07:51 PM

Another one that I've good experience is a 25 years old WeChat girl. Yup, I go for WeChat girls a lot especially if I'm in Batam on Friday night where most joints would be kosong already.

She's prettier, at 7.5/10, but B- boobs. Service is good and friendliness is there. Accommodating too. Fits into the 24-28 sure hit category.

tomcat007

30-11-2016, 07:55 PM

Like microdjsim says, a lot depends on luck. By nature, Indon WL don't give high gfe unless she's damned experience in this line or have feeling with you. That's why I said previously that's why Thai/PRC can command $160-$200 1-2 shots and Indon only command $100 for 2 shots. Most of them really just offer a warm temporary parking space for your dick, that's all.

tomcat007

30-11-2016, 07:58 PM

Need young pretty cewek with good gfe , can try the youngest girl at Kupu2. She always sit on the extreme left. That also meant that she's most expensive. Took her once, no regrets for the price I paid. But didn't dare to rtf for fear of getting stuck. Might not be the youngest anymore after her birthday a month plus ago. However, she don't smile much in the showroom. In fact, she don't smile at all. But in the room, she's really the livewire.

iicycold

30-11-2016, 08:05 PM

Interesting. Where is this Spa?

It's called Vienna Spa @ Da Vienna hotel. Higher-end kind of spa like Spa Secret. Business there is nt good but there's promo de,if i dn't r'ber wrg it shld be 20% off durin their happy hr. :D

1 hr indo msg avg 350k++,thai msg abt 375k++ (exclude serv chg & tax)

So gers there not reli hard up 4 special serv unless she likes u veri much or u willing 2 pay SG price or more. :p

syt4me

30-11-2016, 08:20 PM

[QUOTE=tomcat007;15372047]Need young pretty cewek with good gfe , can try the youngest girl at Kupu2.

Will try your advice next time. Maybe can even take your lead and try wechat girls.

60488

Just a pic for u guys. Greeeeen

Black Page

30-11-2016, 08:45 PM

[QUOTE=tomcat007;15372047]
Just a pic for u guys. Greeeeen
Who is this girl? Her name? Her face reminds me someone from the past...
(I understand this is not the girl mentioned by tomcat007?)

syt4me

30-11-2016, 09:07 PM

[QUOTE=syt4me;15372147]
Who is this girl? Her name? Her face reminds me someone from the past...
(I understand this is not the girl mentioned by tomcat007?)
Green haired girl erend. Now no one can miss. Go to facebook and type erend. To see more. Even got pics of obat if u look far back enough. Look at her facebook, she can dance, so if anyone wants a dancing partner find her. Pity they haven't got any lapdance gogobars in batam. She might make a killing there. Haha.

Black Page

30-11-2016, 09:23 PM

Green haired girl erend. Now no one can miss. Go to facebook and type erend. To see more. Even got pics of obat if u look far back enough. Look at her facebook, she can dance, so if anyone wants a dancing partner find her. Pity they haven't got any lapdance gogobars in batam. She might make a killing there. Haha.

THANK YOU.
Wow, the (in)famous EREN. No, she is not the Ayu which I used to know (I still have her on wechat, I see she offers "ST BO").

Well, if I see her FB profile and her videos, the first thought that comes to my mind is STAY AWAY. My impression is that the last thing she must have in her mind must be to please a customer.
Definitely not a girl to book. I would take a ST, but only on site and if I know that the papi is strong enough to ensure discipline from his girls.
This girl needs a leash LOL :D

nono1973

30-11-2016, 09:49 PM

I got long chatt with octopus GRO yesterday, base on she explain to me the higher price got hot and cold blow job treatment :). So not base on their quality.

This sounds interesting,hmm...

MY FR

It's the first time I'm travelling to Batam. [ 5 days and 4 night. Now already my 3rd day ].
1st day
I went to Alishan karaoke
Min charge 700rb for small room and include 300rb for lady companion charge

I give tips 100rb for LC..

Hmm...you mentioned 5D4N in Batam,but your FR reflected 2 days. So this FR I suppose is 1/3 of the whole FR?

For transportion I just walk every where and depend on GPS at my handphone.

When i 1st started,i create my own Batam map,print it out and then navigate from there. And if I am lost,i just hail an ojek or taxi to go back to hotel. After a while,i will be more familiarize with my surrounding.

Sometime I use ojek. I pay 10rb for short distance and 15rb long distance. Sometime must bargain but sometime they only ask me to pay what I think enough for them.

Good one!

I used taxi 1 time, pay 30rb from pasific to dc mall. Cause he said must pay parking ticket too.

Sorry for my bad English. Hope can give explain to all of you about how local at 1st time in Batam.

Thank you for sharing, even tho its technically 1/3 of your whole trip FR. So i couldnt exactly comment much.

If you could add the part how you reach Batam and how you leave Batam to your next destination,it would be more informative.

Cheers!

Been reading yr summaries for quite a bit,seems like the method u use keep evolving over a period of time when u are in Batam & eventually helps u break the barrier btw u & yr girls.

The key thing for me in all bargaining techniques is to be humble, to be nice and always put on a smile. And i get to enjoy it,hehehe...bargaining today has turn out to be an ice breaker between me and my girls nowaday,hehehe..

I'm keep em in mind & looking to see more new tricks up yr sleeves.

One day I may bring up the google translate trick over,but now is not the time yet. I am mastering the 'Google Translate Trick' max level as of date. Definitely wont be in 2016 for sure,hehehe...i pick them up with physical experience.

..but most likely yes, as the video was circulating widely already when it went to police attention. Everyone was going to R asking her about the video. Imagine her feeling.

That is definitely not good.

R agreed to be photographed, but not during sex, as all the video is taken from the hidden cameras.
I have tons of photos of her, taken in various places, with me or alone. It's not a strange thing. One should not be worried if someone asks permission to take a photo.
However, she's naive like a baby. She trusts people even when she should be cautious.

I don't know about you,but if I am you,i would ask her to at least take some precaution even tho in her line of work,she didn't have much choices. My off-all-the-lights technique can be quite useful against inexpensive hidden cam. Her customers may not like it but like I said earlier,only apply that to those whom she find suspicious.

Most people here do not understand that girls working in joints are not things (with variable "quality") but ladies with a family and a reputation at home. Add that Indonesia is an Islamic country, and that most girls come from a small city. They tell families that they work in Batam as waitress or cleaning service. Now imagine if one of those videos start circulating where they live. :eek:
More than a reputation affected. It's a whole life destroyed.

Human just need to behave like humans. I often tells my friend,do not do unto what you do not like others do unto you. If a human wish to treat another human like an animal,then in future if he/she is being treat the same,dont complain or have the slightest grievance becos whatever goes around...always comes around.

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There's always Karma. And Karma is also known to be like a bitch...

I strongly agree. Paying them money to provide a service doesn't mean that you can do anything. These are human beings like you and me, albeit many in more unfortunate circumstances.

I agreed with you. Look around you in real life, how many humans were being trapped in today's modern slavery? (domestic maid for example)

iicycold

01-12-2016, 08:46 AM

Dear all,a few of the photos, especially those moving ones has die off today on my latest 34th Batam summary. I have already fix it. My summary is now complete,..oh well,unless it die off again on me later,hehehe...

The Batam Food List
(Updated on Jan 2016) (https://hive.am/FoodList2)

Beginner's Guide for 1st Time Batam Visitor (http://hive.gl/batambeginnerguide)

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All My Batam Trip Summaries for 2015
(Jan - Dec) (https://hive.am/all2015summaries)

弱者報仇，強者寬恕，智者忘懷

Batam Places to avoid :
Morena series of joints,Delta Spa & MM

My latest 34th Batam Trip Summary
(on Nov 2016) (https://hive.am/34trip)

Its a Friday today,most bros here will be in Batam and/or likely to be getting ready to go there 2morow.

May all have a good time..

...come home safely too!

Just finished reading yr latest trip summary,looks like u've a reli good time on Nov. Dec is here,hope yr cming trip even better.

Especially yr up & coming CNY 2017 which u painstakingly prepared.

Looking 4ward 2 yr year end summary nw. The final 1 on 2017 :D

thx bro.

Every Batam trip is a learning trip. The moment I think I know Batam well enough will be the day I start failing.

You are at step number one now in Batam and once you get pass step number two and three, things will start going smoothly.

Step no.1 when in Batam : Drop your Expectation by at least half on everything.

Step no. 2 : Find out where your most enjoyable time in Batam is,and work from there onward.

Step no.3 : Dwell, understand and enjoy.

If fate allows it,we can link up for a smoke or a drink. But cheonging together...I think for the time being,i need go dwell on my own treasure box of apples 1st. So many apples in my treasure boxes in Batam,but I have so little time to enjoy them....hehehe...who knows one day you will also be able to gather your 'apples' too.

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Tis 1 by far has 2 be yr best advise. :D

fde83

01-12-2016, 12:58 PM

[QUOTE=Black Page;15372226]
Green haired girl erend. Now no one can miss. Go to facebook and type erend. To see more. Even got pics of obat if u look far back enough. Look at her facebook, she can dance, so if anyone wants a dancing partner find her. Pity they haven't got any lapdance gogobars in batam. She might make a killing there. Haha.

Hahaha... Now we have a face behind that name call Eren. Boys u all been warn.

mygirly

01-12-2016, 02:40 PM

Continuation-

By the way, my friends were all very satisfied with their girls and all extended.

The thing about dropping expectations I understand. I have never booked escorts before,
the type like in batam, where you can bring them out for meals, movie and partying. So didn't really know what to expect. What I wanted was the GFE feel.
In other words companionship. If I only wanted to get laid, I would have gone for 3 ST with 3 different girls. To get an escort in sg to accompany you to do all
those things then 3 rounds of sex would cost in the thousands.

We can get better sex in sg, but not what I mentioned without burning a whole in the wallet.

I guess that was what I wanted to have in batam. Try something different.
END-

GFE feel don't come cheap even in Batam.
Feelings hv to build over time, effort, and money.

If GFE feel is what u after then go look for a gf there?
If u lucky u may find a girl that will treat u like a king. For what price
I won't know. But I equate that to playing with fire. So prepared
to get burn if u cannot handle it well. After all it's still foreign land
to u.

Otherwise like what Nono Always say...half ur expectation.
Just my two cents n cheers.

nono1973

01-12-2016, 05:28 PM

New Movie, UnderWorld : Blood War...and finally it is here,hehehe...currently available only at Kepril Mall and Harbour Bay Mall in Blitz theater. This movie came out earlier than I expected, hehehe...as I have been looking forward to this movie,I have prepare this sometime ago.

UNDERWORLD:
BLOOD WARS

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/18/DJ0nR.jpg

The Storyline :

Vampire death dealer Selene (Kate Beckinsale) must fend off brutal attacks from both the Lycan clan and the Vampire faction that betrayed her. With her only allies, David (Theo James) and his father Thomas (Charles Dance), she must stop the eternal war between Lycans and Vampires, even if it means she has to make the ultimate sacrifice.

The Trailer :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6FxROAHJH4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSlaWHDu5WU
Well,this is the part 5 of the same titled movie series,so you might wish to go watch the previous 4 to help you better understand what this movie is all about. Its about Lycans and Vampire and the war between the 2 species, guess from the movie poster here,you probably already guessed it.

Below photo taken from other parts of the same movie just for you to get a preview what kind of special effect you would be seeing in most parts of the movie.

http://imgshow.me/images/2016/11/18/92qemFu-Imgur.gif

I couldn't actually find all 4 parts of the full movie to allow readers to watch it before they anticipated the 5th instalment,but well i found a brief intro to the 4 as below to help you better understand what the movie is about :

Setting :

In the Underworld universe, Vampires and Lycans are not malevolent supernatural creatures, but rather the product of a virus; unlike Vampires of other more 'traditional' works, Underworld Vampires are not supernatural in origin. Also, some Vampire relics and amulets featured in the movies are cross-shaped, and they show no aversion to Jesus’ name, which is heard a few times throughout the narrative.

In the 5th century, a man named Alexander Corvinus was the only survivor of a plague that wiped out his village. Somehow, Alexander's body was able to turn the disease to his own benefit and so he became the first true Immortal. Later, he fathered two sons who became the first Vampire and Lycan by being bitten by a bat and a wolf.

Vampires vs. Lycans

Since that time, a war has broken out. The Lycans were enslaved by the Vampires, used as guardians of their lairs during the daylight hours, but they revolted in the 15th century. Both sides have their own lair and chain of command. Vampires are ruled by the three Vampire Elders, who command an army of Vampire warriors known as the Death Dealers. Rules and tradition demand that two Vampire Elders be at rest while one is awake; this arrangement calls for each Elder to rule for one century followed by two centuries of sleep. By the beginning of the 21st century, the Lycans are almost completely wiped out, but a Vampire regent has his own plans, which end up spinning the war out of control and disrupting the chain of command on both sides.

Hybridization

A third mortal son of Corvinus was able to pass down the dormant form of the original virus through his descendants. One of the third son's descendants, Michael Corvin, is not only able to survive the bite of one immortal species, but his rare bloodstrain is able to imbibe and combine both the Vampire and Lycan virus strains due to this mutation, allowing him to become a Hybrid – a full blending of the two Immortal species.

Other Hybrids are later created by using the blood of Michael's daughter, Eve,which grants the user with greater strength and size, as well as an immunity to silver. Hybrids appear in every installment of the series except for Rise of the Lycans.

Underworld (2003)

A vigilant Death Dealer named Selene seeks to discover the reason why the Lycans are searching for a mysterious human named Michael Corvin. In the process, she uncovers centuries of lies and deception within her own Coven, and comes to find herself torn between her duty to the Vampires and her emotions as she falls in love with Michael.

Underworld: Evolution (2006)

Evolution follows Selene and Michael Corvin as they battle a now-hybridized Marcus Corvinus, who seeks to free his twin brother William from centuries of entrapment.

Underworld: Rise of the Lycans (2009)

A prequel set six centuries before the events of Underworld, Rise of the Lycans details the romance between Lycan slave Lucian and Vampire princess Sonja. Their struggle leads to an all-out war between the Vampires and Lycans that lasts for several centuries.

Underworld: Awakening (2012)

Twelve years after being caught by human soldiers, Selene awakens to find that humans have nearly wiped out both the Vampire and Lycan species. To stop the Lycans from using her daughter, Eve, as a means to enhance the strength of Lycans, Selene teams up with fellow Vampire David and a human detective to destroy the powerful biotech corporation, Antigen.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/18/iH9eZ.gif

Enjoy the movie if you are heading to Batam soon,but don't forget NOT TO buy the food and drinks from the theater. From the 'being considerate' aspect, best is not to eat and drink while you are watching a movie, hehehe...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/01/9bAYP.gif

Barnacles

01-12-2016, 07:41 PM

Came back from batam just..

Nothing much to shout about.. spent 2nights there..

total blew 5 loads with 5 diff gals, 4 met from wechat..

1st shot was a hj at a massage place in the hotel, quoted me 300k..asked for more and she will strip.. didn't appreciate her figure so just gave her 300k for the jh

2nd shot was an hr later, msg a gal, quoting 500k for ST.. came figure not bad, nice b cup.. face remind me of a friend's sis.. service wise terrible.. only want to get the job done..

3rd shot.. met this chinese indo girl on wechat, 22yr old.. nice b cup.. face 5/10 ,hard to bargain, wanted 200sgd which i wouldn't give.. in the end agreed 700k plus 50sgd (i know abit ex) sex was fantastic, fucking horny girl.. took some videos n pics also.. stayed on past the 1hr agreement..

end of day 1

2nd day woke up.. decided for a cheap fuck at 400k.. really regret.. 1hr late, came with attitude, boobs were small.. service was crap, got so upset after that i told her to leave, threw the money on the bed..

met another indo chinese girl, agreed to drive me out to eat if i treat her.. went some seafood place, spend abt 300k on seafood.. after that coax her to my room to chill.. and fucked her long, about 2hrs of fucking n cuddling.. looks wise 5/10.. boobs abt b also..

day 3 too tired to do anything.. abs and legs were weak from all that pumping..

Trip regret*
Not going to octopuss or asking for a 3some from those ST girls.. at 1mil for 2gals, could have given it a try..

Chatted with another girl on wechat, she reccomended me to try Grand Dragon at BCH.. she was working at oct b4 changing over, said it was better. might try on my next trip..

cleyeo

01-12-2016, 09:00 PM

Came back from batam just..

1st shot was a hj at a massage place in the hotel, quoted me 300k..asked for more and she will strip.. didn't appreciate her figure so just gave her 300k for the jh

..

Bro, 300K for HJ,, honestly I think it is exp. It is my opinion.

hawkeye007

01-12-2016, 09:33 PM

Bro, 300K for HJ,, honestly I think it is exp. It is my opinion.

It's not exp, it's freaking expensive..

And paying 700k + 50 SGD for ST is crazy... Almost 1.2 juta, can go to a joint and book a cewek for one whole day's worth of bonking

This is carrot head with a HUGE CAPITAL C... :eek::confused:

Black Page

01-12-2016, 11:30 PM

It's not exp, it's freaking expensive..
And paying 700k + 50 SGD for ST is crazy... Almost 1.2 juta, can go to a joint and book a cewek for one whole day's worth of bonking
Including EREN :p
At least, this one gave all herself. She EVEN "stayed on past the 1hr agreement... " :p
WOW

This is carrot head with a HUGE CAPITAL C... :eek:

Yes, well above the market, but that's what happens when one seeks IndoCHINESE. No surprise. Indochinese are much richer than the average Indonesian, in general do not need money to eat, and, let me say that, are MUCH UGLIER than the average PRC girl or Indo girl.
Am I the only one who thinks that many IndoChinese are definitely ugly? What's worse, I notice their proud attitude when they walk around Nagoya Hill, like displaying the beauty of Miss Universe. :confused:

phatey

01-12-2016, 11:56 PM

will be staying near bcs mall. family trip.
will have around 3h free time
first timer. can the expert bros recommend / guide me where to go in the 3h i have ?
love syt :)

tomcat007

02-12-2016, 12:21 AM

Just try your best to enjoy your family trip.

mr20k

02-12-2016, 01:08 AM

https://www.facebook.com/erend.erend.1

fde83

02-12-2016, 01:17 AM

It's not exp, it's freaking expensive...This is carrot head with a HUGE CAPITAL C... :eek::confused:

So true yet this statement make me laugh the seconds I finish reading it. Lol.

fde83

02-12-2016, 01:19 AM

will be staying near bcs mall. family trip.
will have around 3h free time
first timer. can the expert bros recommend / guide me where to go in the 3h i have ?
love syt :)

Please read bronono guides. Details is all out there for read.

hawkeye007

02-12-2016, 01:47 AM

Including EREN :p
At least, this one gave all herself. She EVEN "stayed on past the 1hr agreement... " :p
WOW

Even I don't make 1.2jt per hour... Hell, I'd stay for 2 hours myself if it was me.. Hahahahaha..

Yes, well above the market, but that's what happens when one seeks IndoCHINESE. No surprise. Indochinese are much richer than the average Indonesian, in general do not need money to eat, and, let me say that, are MUCH UGLIER than the average PRC girl or Indo girl.
Am I the only one who thinks that many IndoChinese are definitely ugly? What's worse, I notice their proud attitude when they walk around Nagoya Hill, like displaying the beauty of Miss Universe. :confused:

Actually, I have seen my fair share of good looking Indochinese gals; they're mostly centred around BCS mall. I know you don't really frequent BCS cos your hunting grounds are Nagoya Hill and NED. Hehe...

But yes, they do strut around like proud peacocks (in this case, penhens) in Nagoya Hill.. Hahahaha

tomcat007

02-12-2016, 07:49 AM

It's Friday, again...

grandfather

02-12-2016, 09:04 AM

will be staying near bcs mall. family trip.
will have around 3h free time
first timer. can the expert bros recommend / guide me where to go in the 3h i have ?
love syt :)

u like SYT then be prepared to pay and be rule by her.:D

how about this one?
http://images.sammyboyforum.nl/img/60488/

no offence to anyone
peace :D

mr20k

02-12-2016, 09:12 AM

https://www.facebook.com/erend.erend.1

She even has a Singaporean BF cum customer. And from her facebook link, you can find more whores as all the selfies are from the same place

faithlessx

02-12-2016, 09:20 AM

Is batam safe to go now?

budi

02-12-2016, 10:24 AM

Is batam safe to go now?

Should hope so. Cos I am going over tomorrow for 1 night. The news about the protest is only happening in Jakarta

fde83

02-12-2016, 12:58 PM

Is batam safe to go now?

It's safe once you where a helmet. And I'm not talking about your big head. Hint Hint... OK lame joke over

tomcat007

02-12-2016, 01:49 PM

u like SYT then be prepared to pay and be rule by her.:D

how about this one?
http://images.sammyboyforum.nl/img/60488/

no offence to anyone
peace :D

Precisely.

From my 6/7 years cheonging history in Batam, I've only encountered 4 ssyt with good work ethic, great gfe and totally submissive type. Ssyt means 21 years old max.

paulee

02-12-2016, 02:24 PM

On the Horizon Ferry to Habor Bay now. Any bro to have a drink together later?

sadsky18

02-12-2016, 02:28 PM

On the Horizon Ferry to Habor Bay now. Any bro to have a drink together later?

lone ranger ?

not boring ?

syt4me

02-12-2016, 03:31 PM

From the attention the green monster is getting, she is going to become the first :
BATAM SUPERSTAR BOOKING CEWEK

Next time she will demand 3 juta. And her superstar attitude will be just right

HaHa

:eek:

syt4me

02-12-2016, 03:46 PM

Never tried posting video b4 so hope this works

https://www.facebook.com/erend.erend.1/videos/584457978406915/

lurpsexx

02-12-2016, 03:56 PM

lone ranger ?

not boring ?

Not if you know what you wanna do and when..eat shop massage watch movie massage fj eat sleep..one day gone...lol..

nono1973

02-12-2016, 04:20 PM

Just try your best to enjoy your family trip.

No specific time,no specific date,no specific staying hotel..really not easy to try to answer question/s correctly nowaday. To make matter worse,3 hours for 1st timer Batam visitors moving around batam can easily turns out to no more than 1.5 hours from my perspective. The worst would be the target for SYT,which means expectation is relatively quite high. Meaning nothing really exist in that area unless lady luck is shining or use the 10 year old kid carrying S$20k go Batam technique.

But if its humble bro Tomcat who ask me the same question,i would suggest to him Gideon Hotel,Justmine Massage on the 2nd floor (if i dont remember wrong) :

Photo was taken more than 1.5 years ago...
http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/01/OadkC.jpg
..and its prices state may vary

...THAT would also means hj easily cost around 300k (or more) and fj about 800k+. The market price for that place has been badly spoilt by Sillypore golfers and you are going to get some bigger-body-sized motherly category type of massage girls in there.

Have you tried bonking a girl in a sauna room,yes...thats the place to try.(i have a overnight booking girl with me back then) If the steam room is functional,i believe it can be done there too,just have to watch out for any passerby tho,hehehe...so the right timing is rather crucial. Massage room itself has a safe deposit box too.

Do note that the reason why i gave out the above info is becos i dont foresee myself going to it any time soon,hehehe...but well,one choice is often better than no choice. The higher i were to pay,the lower the standard of service. The lower i pay,all the more the better in terms of quality and services.

The irony of Batam.

__________________________

If i happen to have only 3 hours to cheong in Batam and if that 3 hours is way past Batam midnight,i may likely bring myself to Newton Hotel.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/01/2k4Bd.jpg

Wait at newton hotel downstairs,grab a girl (or be grab by her) in that area and book a 2 hour room from the hotel. I think you should know this part. Massage at Gideon is mainly meant for late morning and early noon. If its later noon, I usually carry my favorite massage shops around by going to the hotel receptionist to ask them to help me make a phone call for the mobile massage shop to bring me the girl/s.

Just sharing.

The question ,if i have only 3 hours in Batam,what would i choose to do is interesting. ;)

grandfather

02-12-2016, 04:58 PM

Precisely.

From my 6/7 years cheonging history in Batam, I've only encountered 4 ssyt with good work ethic, great gfe and totally submissive type. Ssyt means 21 years old max.

yeah.
its not like land of smile aka thailand
or
DG-莞式服务(since 07 or 09 i start going over)
:D

nono1973

02-12-2016, 05:14 PM

I'm curious,wat would happens if one day u were to be charged the same like any normal person who visit batam. It'll be interesting to see how u would react.

I am likely to be pissed,hehehe...beside Formosa,i have 2 another reserved hotel called Utama Hotel and Biz. If any business entities do not welcome my business (and the list of people that follows with it),i will just take it somewhere else.

Piggy from the Monkey King movie says,1 stick easy to break, many sticks joint together, not easy to break,hehehe...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/26/htT2j.gif

* i usually only suggest a particular hotel to someone base on my understanding on how they would move around in their Batam trips.

You did remembered wrong.

The photo posted by u was made by me in the old thread,not from bro Leo. I dedicated it to u for the fun of it & i'm glad to see u use it here. It was however quoted again later by bro leo.

My apologize...i told you before I wasn't good with names, hehehe...age catching up liao. Yes,it was you who made it.

And I sincerely thank you.

You know I always bargain. And, if I can get more discount by getting 1 or 2 more girls from the same joint, I will do it. After all, I'm not looking for a wife. Just a companion for the night plus a dick parking space.

I notice in some of your older FRs that even some of your girls helped you to bargain too (even when you don't need it),hehehe...eg,taxi fare.

I always tell my friend who keep asking me go cheong in JB... Find me a booking girl that's added 25 +/-, cost about $100 for 18 hours and speak human language and I'll go cheong there. The last condition is not a joke. The last thing I need is maybe a Cambodian or Myanmar girl who can't speak English or Chinese at all.

From my home to JB,meaning the moment I step out of house..I took a longer time to reach JB as compared to Batam. Just wish to add,if i go on a holiday,i take a bus or a car there...it often makes me feels like I am going to work like i always did everyday but taking a ferry on the sea to another country is different. I FEEL like I am going on a holiday. I definitely cant be taking an aeroplane to JB just to get that "holiday feel" right? And I do not take a ferry to work every day,hehehe...

So if I were to take a ferry to batam,i feel like I am going for a holiday and not going to work.

That challenge was issued to him since the last time we met in Batam (his only time there) and no news till now. In the meantime, I shah keep enjoying my Indon girls...

Try to stand on his shoe to look at things. He is not going for a holiday,and you are. He is going back HOME (it was his home ground) or at the least CLOSER to his home whereas you are going for a holiday. There is a difference. Just the 'feel' alone is not the same.

I have a handful of Malaysian colleagues who finds Batam boring and after a bit of trying to understand them better, i learned that when they go to Batam,they were like going back home. Much of the surroundings ,building infrastructure were similar to that of Malaysia. Its a 3rd world versus 3rd world feel with the surrounding people speaking about the similar language. They have a familiar feel there but whereas for most Sillyporean who grew up in Sillypore (city), the entire 'feel' was different.

3rd world residents has the tendency to prefer going to a 1st country whereas a 1st world residents likely prefer a 3rd world. I do have a handful of friends from China, Thailand, Myanmar ,India, Malaysia and Indonesia,they all like to come to Sillypore VERY much. They tells me Sillypore is more fun etc etc...lol.

I have trouble trying to explain to them that their countries, were more heavenly than where I am from in term of "everything natural", and what they were looking at in my country were mostly "artificial", not real, fake.

Just a personal point of view. ;)

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/02/vWwZH.gif

tomcat007

02-12-2016, 05:52 PM

No specific time,no specific date,no specific staying hotel..really not easy to try to answer question/s correctly nowaday. To make matter worse,3 hours for 1st timer Batam visitors moving around batam can easily turns out to no more than 1.5 hours from my perspective. The worst would be the target for SYT,which means expectation is relatively quite high. Meaning nothing really exist in that area unless lady luck is shining or use the 10 year old kid carrying S$20k go Batam technique.

But if its humble bro Tomcat who ask me the same question,i would suggest to him Gideon Hotel,Justmine Massage on the 2nd floor (if i dont remember wrong) :

;)

Your first paragraph is why I replied to him to try enjoy his family trip. That area.... Want to find cheonging place also not easy liao. What's more, for a first timer with time limit too. I could have pointed him to that only joint I knew , but that woukd cost his an elbow and an knee cap for 1 shot. No point lor.

Thanks for the suggestion. But, to pay that price, I rather be Mr Handsome for the night.

(In case you're wondering at my reference to Handsome, just think along threesome, foursome etc.)

tomcat007

02-12-2016, 05:59 PM

Interesting way to look at it. Going home vs going for holiday.

This friend of mine, I do agree that what you said applied to him. Further more, being the cost conscious type, the additional $35 for ferry ticket is an expense he can't get past, especially with SGD vs MYR so good to him now. Anyway, he's got a girlfriend now, switched to work the same schedule as her, means that even go JB with him is rare chance now.

Yup, taking ferry had the go holiday feel.. but, I do feel like going back home Everytime I syrup into batam. It's so familiar to the Singapore I grew up in.

Tubbyteddies

02-12-2016, 11:09 PM

Barnacles

02-12-2016, 11:41 PM

Guys i know u all calling me carrot.. making fun of me.. but it's my first time.. i don't feel cheated, or i felt overpriced.. yes compared to u guys i may have overpaid.. everybody has their first time.. everybody has gone to an unknown country and got cheated/paid over price for something they shouldnt..

it's part n parcel of learning.. i didn't complain about the price cus i could have afforded it and yea if it's spoilling the market, i apologies.

TBH the indo chinese girls i had sex with were way better den the 2indo gals i did with.. but well it's all a learning process.. instead of making fun of it..

thanks to those who shared.. and thanks to those who poke fun of me..

cheers

norice

03-12-2016, 01:24 AM

Barnacles,

Don't feel bad, I'm like you, since I have some money aside, I like to be generous to needy people! Majority of working girls are in that business because they need money, not because they love sex!

In the beginning, everybody make mistakes, they just don't want to acknowledge it in public!

fde83

03-12-2016, 08:53 AM

In the beginning, everybody make mistakes, they just don't want to acknowledge it in public!

I agreed 100% with this statement. Some just don't have the nuts to own up mistakes. Anyway doesn't matter u pay over or under, it's your money to begin with, what matters is at the end of the day, your happy and sextified. Happy weekend everyone.

tomcat007

03-12-2016, 01:07 PM

I'm not adding on to this cos I've said enough on the guy who booked Eren.

Just wait till they start charging $80-$100 for short time, then let's see who still proclaim I can afford it, I don't feel overpaid...

$120 for short time, might as well stay in Singapore, go geylang. Better service somemore.

mygirly

03-12-2016, 02:25 PM

Anyone in Batam today? Can update the exchange rates ?
Thank you.

iicycold

03-12-2016, 03:02 PM

No need to be sorry or even feel sorry as long as you have learned what went not-right. And I am not talking about over-tipping nor spoiling the market etc but instead it is MORE on the message you carry over to a not-so-good girl with your tips.

You are telling the girls,with lousy service,lousy attitude..i can get a big fat tip too,the rest of the girls with good attitude who offered fantastically good service only gets back a fraction from my bad and worse.

Now do you notice what went not-right here? I pity her next and other future customers, hehehe...well...other than bro S of course,hehehe...

Tis 1 i raise my didi 2 agree w u. :D

Like u say early,those who provide veri good service & better girls so poor thg cos they get back lesser than those lousier highly priced gal. But those secret places u found,the gals r usually more likely 2 get 'bao' by the cleverer guys so they wn't be ard 4 long as they (girls) were lesser 'touched' by men. Over time,the cheaper young innocent better gal who provide good service will also turn clever 2,tat's wen it's the time 2 drop em & chg car...lol.

GFE feel don't come cheap even in Batam.
Feelings hv to build over time, effort, and money.

If GFE feel is what u after then go look for a gf there?
If u lucky u may find a girl that will treat u like a king. For what price
I won't know. But I equate that to playing with fire. So prepared
to get burn if u cannot handle it well. After all it's still foreign land
to u.

Otherwise like what Nono Always say...half ur expectation.
Just my two cents n cheers.

Tis 1 i raise all my hands & legs + my didi 2 agree with whole entire post of yr words!! :D

Later i find a gf tat becm my master & i becm the slave. Go out w her still mus help carry her handbag & other thgs. Siao liao! (can often b seen in sg)

Do note that the reason why i gave out the above info is becos i dont foresee myself going to it any time soon,hehehe...but well,one choice is often better than no choice. The higher i were to pay,the lower the standard of service. The lower i pay,all the more the better in terms of quality and services.

The irony of Batam.

Veri defensive sharin & i can undstd y u r more careful w yr sharing nwaday.

Cheap & better girls,u better keep 4 yrself.

Clever move la! LOL

Look fwd 2 see u in btm on dec.

But if its humble bro Tomcat who ask me the same question,i would suggest to him Gideon Hotel,Justmine Massage on the 2nd floor (if i dont remember wrong) :

Photo was taken more than 1.5 years ago...
http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/01/OadkC.jpg
..and its prices state may vary

...THAT would also means hj easily cost around 300k (or more) and fj about 800k+. The market price for that place has been badly spoilt by Sillypore golfers and you are going to get some bigger-body-sized motherly category type of massage girls in there.

Yr tis post jus replied every1 abv my post if they reads.

Actually hor...veri not easy 2 get below 300k 4 hj in Justmine la,newbie laggi worse but being ard tat area,their choice were reli limited. U aldy hinted in yr post.

Imagine u shared the cheaper version of better & best in tat area wen u were 1st asked many mths ago,yr future hj in tat area is gng 2 cost u jus as much as Justmine.

I still r'ber the MP u recommended who givs me a solid massage & an ass-rim ard penuin....lol. An absolute unforgettable experience 4 me. The last thg i'd like 2 see is tat pl being exposed & end up havin 2 pay much more. :D

Public ignorance often creates more selfish people.
(i'm sure u undstd wat i'm sayin)

Nobdoy dn't make mistake. But hw can a person own up his mistake if he cldn't recognize it? Make mistake,fine...kena suan in public 4 making mistake,also nvm...keep heart open 2 learn ma,jus laugh it off lor,nxt time dn't make same mistake again & do better lor. The problem is if a person dn't evn realize it's a mistake & keep on making it. Nw tat'll pose bigger problem.

Nono,i wk as road sweeper nt bcs i enjoy sweeping road,u wk as rubbish collector also nt bcs u enjoy collect rubbish tio bo. Hw mani who work in a fool time job reli enjoy their work? Surely hav but hw mani. I need the money wking in a job so i'm classified as needy? LOL...

Say, i'm sillyporean ,i hav mani mani money ma ,so nxt time u share w me ani of yr Good & Better secret joints,i go there pay twice/thrice as much as u bcs the gals workin in their jobs needs the money ma...& since they can 100% sextisfied me & they do their 'job' well makin me happi...lol. See my pt? I clever or nt?

Hw long do u tink my ways can turn btm's cost of living into like sg? I tink u'll knw the ans since u recently jus visit the 'province of SG' called, Bintan.

Shh..i tink i speak enuff nonsense liao, later kena up, up, dwn, dwn, left, rite, left, rite, B, A, select, Start 4 speakin my mind...lol. As u say b4, 换个立场想！

Piss out...Opps! Sorie,shld b peace out..lol

All bros in btm nw, hav good weekend har...

tomcat007

03-12-2016, 05:07 PM

Anyone in Batam today? Can update the exchange rates ?
Thank you.

9450, opposite Formosa, plump girl money changer.

Booked a 1.4 juta 20 years old babe from Bunga. Just from chatting and I'm liking her already.

mygirly

03-12-2016, 06:24 PM

9450, opposite Formosa, plump girl money changer.

Booked a 1.4 juta 20 years old babe from Bunga. Just from chatting and I'm liking her already.

Thanks bro Tom. Next week limkopi?

tomcat007

03-12-2016, 06:54 PM

I'll be here during next weekend, but not sure which day yet. May come in on Friday.

XXLCat

03-12-2016, 08:35 PM

Hw long do u tink my ways can turn btm's cost of living into like sg? I tink u'll knw the ans since u recently jus visit the 'province of SG' called, Bintan.

Shh..i tink i speak enuff nonsense liao, later kena up, up, dwn, dwn, left, rite, left, rite, B, A, select, Start 4 speakin my mind...lol. As u say b4, 换个立场想！

Piss out...Opps! Sorie,shld b peace out..lol

All bros in btm nw, hav good weekend har...

Totally agree... bro. And that's a good one for the 30 lifes cheat code.... How much I wish I could use that in Batam ...... :p

iicycold

04-12-2016, 12:01 AM

One day,i may do a write up on how a 10 year old kid can also go to Batam for a 2D1N holiday trip alone by carrying lots of money with him (maximum cash limits can be up to S$20k per pax,hehehe...). It would be quite close to how any adults who would walk-through in Batam,hehehe... <10 year old kid Batam Walk-through guide> sounds like a good name for the story,hehehe...

The ending moral of that story might likely be, to spend lesser than a 10 year old kid who hold lots of cash in hand,not every sillyporean can...to spend more than him/her, ALL Sillyporean also can,hehehe...:D

Tis is gng 2 sounds like fun,will b looking fwd 2 see hw u write yr 10 yr old kid btm travel story. :D

i jus read back all the recent failed trip frm newbies. Some time ago, the fail rate 4 newbies following yr basic guide written here has been close 2 nothing,but the most recent fail rates were way higher 4 newbies who claimed they read the thread. Cn't help noticed they aldy took their veri first step wrong by nt stayin in the basic guide's mentioned hotel. :D

They were new,they read but perhaps too prideful 2 take in good advice. Failure is almost impossible 2 avoid in their cases. ;)

Hinerange

04-12-2016, 12:11 AM

Planning to go on 13th Dec, if any bros are going on the same period, can pm me.

mygirly

04-12-2016, 12:39 AM

Last week went to Pantai Mirota.
Nice sandy beach with clear water.

http://i65.tinypic.com/id6fmb.jpg

nono1973

04-12-2016, 12:08 PM

Written on 01.12.2016

(a 'talking to myself' post,so if you do not like to read,please skip or hit the ignore button now)

I am likely to be pissed,hehehe...beside Formosa,i have 2 another reserved hotel called Utama Hotel and Biz. If any business entities do not welcome my business (and the list of people that follows with it),i will just take it somewhere else.

Looks like Formosa Hotel is trying to charge me 680k a night for a room that i used to be paying 460k for....hmm...i think i can take back what i say above about being pissed off becos i didnt. When faced with a challenge,there are often choices that i have to make,throw a tantrum and gets angry about it...

http://gifyu.com/images/BuddhasPalm39f188.gif

...which i still eventually still wont get my problem solved...it sets me thinking now,what can i do about it? Is there a solution to my own problem...with enough time and my much earlier preparation foreseeing issues before it physically happens,i can plan and conquer the likely would-be hiccups better.

Should i use plan B or plan C to solve my problem. Hmm...i think i may engage both plan B and plan C in one go to solve my problem once and for all ,for both my most current upcoming trip as well as the one on CNY 2017. This is going to be interesting,hehehe...but then again,i am already prepared that my coming Dec Batam trip wont be good (or not as good as my previous). I shall use it to build up my CNY 2017 trip then.

The need to tread extra carefully in my upcoming trip is imminent. Accommodation cost likely going to go up for me ,but luckily i still have my joker card (free room voucher) to offset most of the difference. No,i wont be paying 680k per night...i will still have to pay a little higher price,adding my CNY 2017 night after using my joker card to offset.

Scene 1 -

680k x 7 nights = 4760k versus 460k x 7 nights = 3220k

I will lost 1540k in scene 1.

Scene 2 -

Scene 2,i can go for :

575k x 6 nights = 3450k (after minus-ing voucher 1 night) versus 460x 7 nights = 3220k

I still lost 230k in scene 2.

Hmm....thats plan C.

___________________________

Plan B is of course to pay 600k nett to stay in Da Vienna Junior Suite or 670k at Biz's Junior suite (both were the luxury 1 room 1 hall kind of room),maybe even 380k in Utama hotel. But well...hehehe...

I suddenly realize i actually hatched a plan D from my current post,hehehe...staying in Formosa for the same 460k price,hehehe...i think my 35th Batam trip summary is going to be more on Batam accommodation price hunt,hehehe... remember my "chance card" from the few free room upgrades as a silver member? Hehehe...will i succeed? i will see when i reached Batam.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/02/gOdha.gif

What does Apple really signifies? Hehehe...i enjoy paying S$0.50 (or lesser) for apples that cost S$1 (or more)...and i am talking about apples from the same tree. i cannot do that in Sillypore,but in Batam...well...amazing Batam!

Sorry,i am now talking to myself again and maybe got a bit carried away. I was looking for a solution to my most current problem,instead of putting those 'friendly staff/s' in formosa hotel and myself in a difficult position. I plan,i arrive and then i execute my plan...my RPG in Batam.

(i do have friends currently in Batam as i am typing this post,but i chose not to trouble them to help me book rooms)

nono1973

04-12-2016, 12:37 PM

Written on 03.12.2016
(please skip or hit the ignore button if you do not like to read)

After writing the post above this one,i changed my mind again and emailed Formosa to cancel my reserved room. My reason,another receptionist emailed me earlier telling me that the marketing guy needs my room for a whole lot of tour group coming on xxx date...hehehe...i just dont like rubber band promises nor schedule. Since they planned to charge me higher price anyway,i have decide NOT to stay there for the time being.

See,i dont always win all the time. Some time i win,some time i will still lose,winning and losing were parts and parcel of real life cheonging. Nobody can win all the time. The thing about 'losing' in Batam is all about how well i can handle 'losing' and turned the 'losing' part aka disadvantage to my advantage by taking a step or 2 backward and then move in another angle. If i cannot do that,then at least i have to try some ways to reduce my damages,hehehe...

And do you notice,in batam when an entity's business becomes too good/popular,they have the tendency to...well...hehehe...anyway,i made a better choice instead of going loggerheads on with them and i decide to stay in my other reserved hotel.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/02/ov3EN.gif

I had a dream yesterday night,i dreamed i was walking on a long road and in front of the road was a gigantic ponding of water blocking my way. i was thinking in my dream,its just rain water ponding up and to get across the other side of the road,at most i would just walk across the road and have my feet wet...so i decide to walk across and while walking down the road,something dont feel right...i was sinking...but still ,i continue to walk frontward until 2/3 of my body was submerged into the water,hehehe...and when i finally got myself to other side of the road,i was NOT WET at all.

I owed someone from my one of my back-up hotel something in my last trip there which is on the beginning of 2016. Its coming to the end of 2016...its time i have to return it back. Dont wish to owe others passing the year 2016 too,hehehe... the thing i owed was simple,its my words to keep. I need to honored my own words and my dreams reminded me of that. And it came in timely for my coming Batam trip.

Now that I met with obstacles,its up to me to either walk thru it or walk around it. Or i can just stay where i am and start whining,blaming heaven and every living things. Work around it,or whine,my choice is clear now,hehehe...

I finally settled my accommodation and i planned to pay for my CNY accommodation in advance too (but definitely not 680k/night). i dont even need my joker card now (nor my chance card).

Now my next problem,i need to pick between my 3 backup girls for CNY 2017 this coming trip,what kind of standard should i use to pick them...hehehe...guess i shall leave this part until when i reach Batam. I may take them all,hehehe...its afterall a once a year thingy (or maybe take 2). How i wish a coin is 3 sided now,hehehe...

http://gifyu.com/images/Ryuk5363e3.gif

Hmm...reminds me,1+2 dont always have to be 3,hehehe...i will try to make it more than 4.

Be warned,Mr Nono1973...dont be greedy,be humble,be nice,do not get overly confident,keep expectation low and slow your pace down. (take a deep breath before execution)

A reminder to myself above when i step out of 'me' to look at me.

Coming trip is going to be a very busy one for me. Lots of things to do,errands to run and things to buy to help cover the increase cost of everything in Batam during a peak season. Hopefully everything can go smoothly and i can also enjoy myself. Be cool,keep cool.

My mind is set.

Cheers!

*i will come back to look at this 2 posts i made when i reached Batam ;)

Kaboon

04-12-2016, 06:54 PM

Just wait till they start charging $80-$100 for short time, then let's see who still proclaim I can afford it, I don't feel overpaid...

$120 for short time, might as well stay in Singapore, go geylang. Better service somemore.

Those were also the price for Bali today if u look at its thread. ;)

Public ignorance often creates more selfish people.
(i'm sure u undstd wat i'm sayin)

I agree w ur point. When ppl starts seeing the real gd deals from here & when ppl starts being ignorantly 'generous',lesser info is then shared due to the fact tat the 1 who shares knws the playground will soon be getting more expensive to b played in. C'mon sense tells ppl tat the remaining good playground will then hv to b kept discreet & not shared so openly. :p

Selfish as it may looks for those who're not willing to share but it's selfishness originally came from the 'ignorant generous' ppl. My say is,let those who cnt find the cheaps & better gets the bad & lousier for a start. Less ppl lesser competition. While sharin is caring, indiscreet sharin can becm very scary bcos it'll kill every1's better playground. :cool:

My view.

Hw long do u tink my ways can turn btm's cost of living into like sg? I tink u'll knw the ans since u recently jus visit the 'province of SG' called, Bintan.

Well said! :D

The pl is cming to be like Sinkapore no.2.

Barnacles

04-12-2016, 08:38 PM

tomcat007

04-12-2016, 09:20 PM

A trip that started disastrously ended fantastically well. Having my last meal in Batam now.

As I was checking out from Formosa Hotel, the duty manager told me that actually, check out time for all members level is 2pm, not the 3pm that was printed in the member's benefit chart when we signed up. Hmm.. told them that the fact that it was typed wrongly is not really my issue. To change terms midway is unacceptable.

Anyway, let's see. I have been weighing the pros and cons of continuing staying at Formosa or to change to my back up. Told him matter of factly that now that my needs had changed to another area (Utama area) the membership scheme and the familiarity with the staff are the only reason that I'm still patronizing them. Anyway, like girls, hotels in Batam are a dime a dozen.

Also, I'll be cutting down the occasions where I'll let newer batam cheongster tag along. I still prefer to cheong alone lor.

Ended this trip with a 350k short time with a 21 years old slim cewek. Not bad, When every Susan, Mary and Lucy are charging 500k. 6 shots accomplished in 2d2n. Now I know why nono says sleep is for the weak. The more I fuck, the more energetic I get.

fde83

04-12-2016, 09:53 PM

All of sudden, moving out of Formosa hotel, good thing I move on to better and cheap hotels years ago.

tomcat007

04-12-2016, 09:55 PM

Thanks for the support guys.. yea true money is mine.. i pay what i deem is right, whether i spoil ur market or not. I apologies.. but i dun believe in name calling.. yea i stayed at gideon and my hj was at jasmine spa.. which what some seniors quote here 300k.. which was my first hj in batam, so pardon my lack of knowledge.. 1.2mil for a indo chinese.. well to u all might be overpaid.. expensive.. carrot head.. but to me it was good sex, money well spent..

Thanks again for the tips here.. might or might not visit batam again for sex. but at least i know how much and where to go..

Staying at Penuin area, you really have not much choice. No wonder you kena the IndoChinese FL... But, even the IndoChinese FL I booked also only cost me 1.2 juta overnight plus free transport. She drives a car. Hmm.. anyway, your money, your call. We will just keep paying the much cheaper rate and keep these places to ourselves.

tomcat007

04-12-2016, 09:57 PM

All of sudden, moving out of Formosa hotel, good thing I move on to better and cheap hotels years ago.

Think it's got to do with the new Operations Manager who is trying to keep things close to the rules. I'm fine if they want to start charging what should be charged. But, to change terms midway is really not acceptable.

fde83

04-12-2016, 10:21 PM

We will just keep paying the much cheaper rate and keep these places to ourselves.

Cannot bro must share. Lol

oreocheese

04-12-2016, 11:03 PM

any bros got idea whats a reasonable price for 1 day taxi booking ?

ndnd

04-12-2016, 11:51 PM

Thanks for the support guys.. yea true money is mine.. i pay what i deem is right, whether i spoil ur market or not. I apologies.. but i dun believe in name calling..

After your FR, this the second time you apologize..
Sibei chiam leh, write one FR still have apologize.

For what actually, you did nothing wrong.
There is NO market rate, NO over paid, NO under paid.
Who's the one set standard rate in batam? Got meh..? who..?

If i paid 100k for HJ, then others paid 300k is called Over paid the gal,
If i paid 300k for HJ, then others paid 100k is called Under paid the gal??
Then the gal will feel she suay leh to kena this customer :D

1.2juta for ST one chinese FL,
As long you are happy with the amount you paid, that is the correct rate..
Pay what you think she is worth, is the correct rate..
i ever offer a M-One PR, BO 5juta without asking her rate,
Am i carrot head or i dont know batam market rate or i dont know batam well to make that offer? :p

Just enjoy batam and this thread, no need bother simi rate :rolleyes:
And no need to apologize :)

StarCity

05-12-2016, 12:28 AM

any bros got idea whats a reasonable price for 1 day taxi booking ?

Best answer i found in this thread -

Side notes :

I said this before,in Batam,there is also 80k to 150k rupiah per pop (much older girls),lowest i have heard was 50k rupiah per pop (21 year old girl,with some techniques used <which i dislike the use of such techniques>) in massage shops when the girl/s were new and desperate enough. So i am a believer,anything and everything is possible. Then i ask myself,can everyone and anyone get it almost all the time (aka easily get those deals) in Batam,my answer is no. If its not going to be easily available,then i will only be sabotaging the newbies and the 1st time Batam visitors if i add those info into a Guide.

The same can be applied to Taxi fare too. 30k to 40k rupiah for regular rides from point A to point B if one bargained within Nagoya area. If one dont plan to bargain,the price will usually be 50k rupiah plus/minus,otherwise the carrot price of S$30 to S$50 per trip payment which can be seen in the old thread.

Here's my Taxi Pricing Variation during my Batam travel-about base solely on my experience.

1. Grab a full day taxi for only if one plans to go anywhere else more than just getting girls whereby it will usually cost between 250k to 500k rupiah per day. (a full day taxi here means the moment i arrive Batam till around 9pm in the evening and send me back the next morning/noon)

2. Grab a taxi for FREE (via negotiation with the driver) if one plans to go for only girls and thats it. Taxi driver earns from the commission from the booking joint. (if my objective to go Batam is purely just for girls only,i do not need a taxi at all) Taxi driver brings you to serveral booking joint,you picked the girls,pays for it (the girl/s) and the same driver send the girl to you at your desired time. No extra payment needed unless one wish to tip the driver.

3. If one has a regular taxi driver,take down his number. Negotiate for a point to point fare. It can be 20k to 30k rupiah fare from each point to point. Meaning i called the cab driver i knew,the driver comes to Harbour to fetch me to Hotel,i pay 20k. Then i called the same driver again to bring me go lunch,another 20k. Then call the driver to pick me up after lunch,another 20k,then call the driver bring me go massage,another 20k,and another round of calling to bring me back to hotel,20k rupiah,the list goes on and on. Its like a call per use per trip. (if i know i am going to exceed a certain amount per day/night use,i grab a full day driver instead)

5 points = 100k rupiah

Example : i go from Harbour to Hotel,1 point. Hotel to lunch,another point,to find girls,another point,go masaage,another point and so on.

4. Like i say before,i used some trickery from Harbour Bay to Money changer away from Harbour bay,then to Kaha and then to Hotel at 40k to 50k. All in will be less than 20k each point to point. 40k to 50k divided by 3 point destination. I use this method on my solo trips. (everyone who visit Batam before knows changing money at any ferry terminal usually not-so-good rate)

Even if i dont go to Money changer 1st and head from Harbour Bay to Kaha,and then to Formosa only,the fare is still 40k to 50k divided by 2. ;)

5. Dial a Blue Bird taxi that runs on taxi-meter.

Taxi drivers get commission in almost everything whenever money comes out from my wallet,according to what i have read so far. Just that to date,i dont get to see a driver collecting his commission.(what i dont see doesnt mean its not happening in this case and they do collect commission) The taxi variances mentioned above depends on how i would like to travel in Batam. Meaning to say,i have a choice...hehehe...

Just sharing my experience here.

PenguinChaser

05-12-2016, 12:43 AM

Hmm.. Just thinking aloud.

In a transaction, always will have 2 parties in favor of increased price and these 2 parties sometimes can be the same person, or 2 different people. There will be 1 party who will not be in favor of increased price and that will be the buyer.

So, who is the 2 parties in favor of increased price? In Batam's context here, we are referring to

1. The working girl playing the role of service provider and service seller

or

2. The working girl playing time of service provider and the okt playing the role of service seller.

So, with me being the buyer, when someone advocate letting the price increase, don't pay attention to service price, I would be very wary of that person. Common sense tells that, as a buyer, we want to be paying the most affordable price. In Batam's case, I take it as the cheapest price. Why? Otherwise, we might as well stay in Singapore. Why go Batam? I love to take ferry? So, if someone comes along saying that, as a service buyer, he likes to pay expensive price, there can only be 2 reasons.

1. He's got a hidden agenda;
2. Playing the "hero" role

Actually, 3 reasons...

3. He's bullshitting.

I ever had an Alishan ktv girl stayed with me overnight for only 500k rp. Gosh.. I must be a bad guy and underpaying her. Except that, for the service seller, there is no such thing as underpaying cos they can jolly well decide not to sell her service.

nono1973

05-12-2016, 01:02 AM

... interesting read :D

Thank you for reading.

Wow, the stats of yr cewek from the Secret Garden freaks me up. Suicide Marks is a big No -No for me.
It tells many stories..

Secret Garden is like an asylum, with most of the girls in it, mentally not-so-normal but with pretty good stats in terms of look,their figures,boobs etc,hehehe...I simply love those places. But do not expect a normal service like what you had in the other more normal places. Most of the girls there lives in their own world, with occasional times where they would woke up in the real world to 'feed' so they can continue to live in their 'castle' (in the air).

I only drop by this place on and off and book the girls if I want some peace of mind,hehehe...becos they don't greed, they don't sloth, they don't have a pride,i don't see lust..and better still,no envy nor anger in their ways of life. One example would be,i only get to see my girl's HP on the next day when she was about to go back to joint. Meaning to say,she dont even look at her hp at all when she's with me.

Normally i would avoid them but her headlights is just too tempting.. Give and Take.

Hmm...honestly speaking,those girls may not be suitable for you if you are into 'service' or looks. Most were well-aged, they lack service and do not expect a logical reply when you ask them something normal and if they ever do,most likely its gonna be something that doesn't quite make sense,hehehe...not to mention about unable to read their minds. If you find a good looking one there, then be very careful,hehehe...she's likely to be a complete nutcase. :D

Coming back to our basic point again, most sensible humans don't go to Batam to choose girlfriends ,mistresses nor wives, right? I go Batam to look for the apple of my eyes, hehehe...

http://www.pixhoster.info/f/2016-12/e4a56040f8cb6d920d54edb1edbb8c5d.gif

I'm intrigued to know why you plan to RTF her and even pen her down as your 2nd choice for CNY in spite of her eccentricity, lack of service/looks/GFE/OWE and apparent suicidal tendencies. Can't be just because of her D cup boobs!

1. The stats were meant for my own understanding (as stated just before I posted it), so not many people could truly understand it unless they have joined me in my trips before (or linked up with me before). Summaries in this thread is like my Batam travel diary meant more for my own future reference than for the public eyes,hehehe...

I have to write the stats the way it is written now, otherwise my PM inbox will go burst in no time,hehehe...

2. i have often told my friends in Batam. 500k to 900k rupiah overnight girls, paying that type of price,get them to my room just to see them in complete nude running around my room for over 12 hours already worth the show-ticket-price. If I share openly the REAL price of that girl, i am almost sure you may find it worth.

3. I wrote,i am curious. I am curious of her characteristic ,whats running in her head. A girl who doesn't seems to have 喜怒哀乐 (Delight, anger, sorrow, and happiness) and 贪、嗔、痴、妒、慢、疑 (Greed, hatred , ignorance , jealousy , pride, doubt) when being with me thru out the trip (except on bed),it REALLY stirs my curiosity. I am willing to pay for 10 days and 10 nights of her booking just to have her with me to help me understand whats running in her mind (its really not expensive to do that anyway and when the likes of me says that, you can imagine how low the price is).

Note that I am not there to look for GF nor wife,as once I get what I am looking for, i am almost 100% to drop her completely.

4. The last thing I want for my CNY 2017 is a problematic girl. I practically do not foresee a girl with such characteristic would give me any problem.

5. Please do not think I will be bonking a dead fish with girls like that,...something not-right with her mind-sense do not means something not-right with her body-sense. When it comes to sex, the mind at most time couldnt controls the body unless they were being professionally trained to (which I doubt). I enjoy controlling the girl's body-sense,i enjoyed the sight (and feel) that she tries her best not to orgasm BUT yet have to give in to her body's natural instinct. Her expression, her body, her soul completely surrendering to my "motion" in bed at that few moment is totally priceless...hehehe...and that kind of expression can just goes on and on and on and on and on....

Instead of imagining that I am bonking a dead fish,i would describe it more like I am bonking a nun who keeps telling herself 'cumming' is forbidden but under hours of non-stop in room action,she eventually surrender to her own lust and body instinct. I am going to RTF her becos i look forward to her complete surrender,hehehe...total submission (in bed of course). :p

(i got her for my 3rd night when my stamina was reduced by more than half,i would love to RTF her on my 1st night when i am in full-power-up in Batam to see hopefully another even better result)

6. Lastly,she is choice 2 becos choice 1 was even better than her...finger her also can make her cums like crazy,hehehe...a more normal lady with all aspect surpassing choice 2...hehehe...hence you see little mention of her. But she will cost a little more on normal days and even more during CNY 2017.

Sorry for such an essay...again.

Going to plan for my Dec trip now,hehehe...& beefing up my stamina.

Cheers!

StarCity

05-12-2016, 01:23 AM

.. might or might not visit batam again for sex. but at least i know how much and where to go..

U might know even BETTER how much & where to go, whether u may or may not visit batam again for sex...that's if u are willing to read what i found for you after reading yr post -

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=14125823&postcount=2

Peace :)

tomcat007

05-12-2016, 01:28 AM

So, I just ended a 2D2N trip.

Here is my report card.

1. HJ / milf / 100k
2. WeChat girl / 1 juta / BO
3. Bunga cewek / 1.4 juta (well worth it, except that I chased her halfway due to misunderstanding, now resolved already) / got back 600k refund cos I had her for about 7 hours
4. Bunga cewek / 1 juta / BO
5. Sweet Massage / VIP RM / 400k
6. Booking joint 21 years old / 350k / sorry, I'm not saying from which booking joint. Just go around, just ask. My jaws nearly drop when I was told the price for short time. I have a ferry to catch in 2 hours time, so can't book her. Else, I'll still be in Batam now.

My trip was saved by this last girl. Lol..
Folks, remember bro nono mentioned that I managed to booked a 800k Chen Yu Yun lookalike? (See here - Chen Yu Yun (https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=tomato+tan&client=ms-android-xiaomi&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjgscPZiNvQAhWBu48KHY78CUUQ_AUIBygB&biw=393&bih=623#tbm=isch&q=chen+yu+yun+) - if you don't know who I'm talking about.) Today, I found another - Jessica Liu Lookalike (https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=jessica+liu&client=ms-android-xiaomi&prmd=inv&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiT3OKpidvQAhXMP48KHVeeB0YQ_AUIBygB&biw=393&bih=623) !!! Well, minus the height. Gonna book her next week.

Overspent this round. About $800 blown. The 1.4 juta is well worth the price. Jovial, gfe 101%, feed me during dinner too, with a good body too.. Gonna rtf her. Guys, if you going on the 15/12 or there about, take her. It's her 21st birthday.

This trip round, I managed to bring my ferry cost to $30. Not surprising, cos a lot of laojiao here are posting this office by buying Sindo Ferry at BCS area.

Thing is.. the journey:

Departure: HBF to Batam Centre
Return: HarbourBay to HBF

And there are potential to lower the cost some more. It's by BatamFast, so the HBB frequency is limited.

AhPui8

05-12-2016, 01:45 AM

Guys i know u all calling me carrot.. making fun of me.. but it's my first time.. i don't feel cheated, or i felt overpriced.. yes compared to u guys i may have overpaid.. everybody has their first time.. everybody has gone to an unknown country and got cheated/paid over price for something they shouldnt..

it's part n parcel of learning.. i didn't complain about the price cus i could have afforded it and yea if it's spoilling the market, i apologies.
.

thanks to those who shared.. and thanks to those who poke fun of me..

cheers

Is your money. You can pay high price is because you have the power to spent. No need say sorry. They are not your father giving you money to spend. Tell them to fuck off far far away.

yourslovingly

05-12-2016, 03:02 AM

tomcat007

05-12-2016, 06:45 AM

Except girl no 2, the rest are booking joints girls. So, you don't need any WeChat ids to book any of them..

xircon

05-12-2016, 08:26 AM

Except girl no 2, the rest are booking joints girls. So, you don't need any WeChat ids to book any of them..
Where is the joint for MILF? Also, does your wechat girl look like the real person as in photo?

jookowi

05-12-2016, 11:03 AM

booked a 800k Chen Yu Yun lookalike? (See here - Chen Yu Yun (https://www.google.com.sg/search?q=tomato+tan&client=ms-android-xiaomi&prmd=ivn&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjgscPZiNvQAhWBu48KHY78CUUQ_AUIBygB&biw=393&bih=623#tbm=isch&q=chen+yu+yun+) - if you don't know who I'm talking about.)

Is it Yuki? The one brought you to a birthday party

Naka_Timo

05-12-2016, 11:07 AM

Is it Yuki? The one brought you to a birthday party

Mr President how you doing?

Naka_Timo

05-12-2016, 11:09 AM

Thanks for the support guys.. yea true money is mine.. i pay what i deem is right, whether i spoil ur market or not. I apologies.. but i dun believe in name calling.. yea i stayed at gideon and my hj was at jasmine spa.. which what some seniors quote here 300k.. which was my first hj in batam, so pardon my lack of knowledge.. 1.2mil for a indo chinese.. well to u all might be overpaid.. expensive.. carrot head.. but to me it was good sex, money well spent..

Thanks again for the tips here.. might or might not visit batam again for sex. but at least i know how much and where to go..

Take it easy bro, take it as a learning experience. Beside that is a good exposure too that different country the spa operate differently. In JB, we pay spa will include makan all. In indo, is a different story.

jookowi

05-12-2016, 11:11 AM

Mr President how you doing?

Hi Naka, me doing good. Come in see see look look.
See can find ahok here :p

Naka_Timo

05-12-2016, 11:16 AM

Hi Naka, me doing good. Can in see see look look.
See can find ahok here :p

Hahaha, ok. I know recently you too stress on the ahok issue that y must come here release stress.

tomcat007

05-12-2016, 11:36 AM

Is it Yuki? The one brought you to a birthday party

Nope, Yuki is 900k booking fee for me. But, she's an A+++++ when it comes to service.

How you know she bring me to Ria's and Kupu2's cashier birthday party? Jialat... kena watch liao...

Naka_Timo

05-12-2016, 11:39 AM

Nope, Yuki is 900k booking fee for me. But, she's an A+++++ when it comes to service.

How you know she bring me to Ria's and Kupu2's cashier birthday party? Jialat... kena watch liao...

So simple, he is Mr President leh. Of course know la.

Antonytio

05-12-2016, 01:48 PM

Staying at Penuin area, you really have not much choice. No wonder you kena the IndoChinese FL... But, even the IndoChinese FL I booked also only cost me 1.2 juta overnight plus free transport. She drives a car. Hmm.. anyway, your money, your call. We will just keep paying the much cheaper rate and keep these places to ourselves.

Can i have the contact for that indochinese fl?😁

iicycold

05-12-2016, 03:08 PM

This is the biggest problem i notice in Batam. Everything in Batam today is so dirt cheap (to most),just like Sillypore 30 over years ago. And today's Sillyporean is trying their very best to make Batam like Sillypore of today (they already successfully make that happen in Bintan). Not that most Sillyporean couldnt afford $10+ per short taxi trip,or tip S$50 to S$150 to any Batam girls or even pay S$150+ for massage with special service (since they already paid about this amount for nearly most of the lower-end Sillypore entertainment). So,definitely its not about affordability for MOST Sillyporean traveling to Batam. Its their mentality that needs to get adjusted.

i've no qualms w any1 but i jus learn today tat i cld afford 2 drive an ovr S$500k BMW on Sg road,wat is S$1k a pop 4 an indo girl in btm man...lol.

Apparently after readin all the prev posts, it looks like my mental issue is all mess up up there nw. :D

http://i.footio.com/images/2016/12/05/he.png

U hv 2 bring me 2 yr hang flower nite club u frequent 2 hang S$20k+ flower in a nite without getting a shot frm the PRC singer, so tat i'll keep in mind tat sm1 up tere reli din't make me quite as intelligent as my btm cewek...lol.

Nwday mus use c'mon sense 2 read post here.

I like this picture below, so I thought I kept it in record in this summary too.

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/11/15/c6xso.jpg

Reflects how i sometime look at things.

Wat a perfect illustartion 4 me! :D

nono1973

05-12-2016, 03:43 PM

New movie in Batam,hehehe...oh before i forget,Cinema 21 started screening Underworld the day i put up the previous movie post,but this one,for the time being,it is only available in Harbour Bay and Kepril Mall. Looks good tho,hehehe...

INCARNATE

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/03/L8Mfs.jpg

The story :

A scientist with the ability to enter the subconscious minds of the possessed must save a young boy from the grips of a demon with powers never seen before, while facing the horrors of his past.

Trailer :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phyDLNll_xY

An interesting movie about demon possession w/o much special effect,a cheap production but well..i think its worth my time. Its a horror movie,so dont eat and drink in the theater,hehehe...for your own safety this time round.

http://gifyu.com/images/19wIDAG-Imgur.gif

Enjoy the movie!

Ahsahh

05-12-2016, 06:14 PM

Hey bros. Just got back from a 2d1n trip on 3 Dec. This is my 4th trip there. Went there with another 4 or my friends, they ask me to showed them around as this is their 2nd time there. Learn so much from the previous trips and especially from you bros. Decied to take the challenge as my main objectives is for them to have a good trip.

For those who've reads my first fr would know that i spend 800k just for my driver. Not going to happen again. Quoted 600k for a 8 seater car. So about 120k each for five of us. I think the price could be lower, what do you bros think?

Exchange rate was 9400 at fomosa, saw a bro posted he got 9450. On the same day! Sian. Maybe i should try to ask for extra 50, with any price they quoted for the exchange rate?

Book through kaha, got 525k for a deluxe room. Feel like got carrot even for a weekend stay.

We stared fishing. Not expecting so much as it's a weekend, and it's already 12pm at that point. Started from happy, was surprised with the quantity, but not much quality. 😂.
We decide to go Sri kandi, wasn't sure about booking there, but just decided to try. Book two girls from Sri mandi.(For me and a friend) Quoted 1.3mil each, manage to get 100k discount for each of the girls. Mami says weekends can't not discount so much. So just agrees with the price. Told mami we will fetch them at 4pm. Do note, at this point is just me and my other friend. The other 3 will be coming at 3pm ferry.

We decide to go back hotel and check in at about 1pm. Got our two rooms, and calls for in room massage.

Back to fomosa at about 1pm, called for our in room massage, after 1hr massage quoted 300k for hj and 500k for fj. (Fyi, on the 2nd trip i paid 400k for hj, topless and free roam. Even got suck her nips.) But i knoe i got carrot, as she knows I'm interested. So this time round act not intersted. Got 200k for hj topless and free roam. I tried to ask for 100k, but not as easy.

Meet up with my friend after massage, he paid for 300k for hj. Just hj. No topless no free roam. I did tell him before the rate you bros usually pay. But he wasn't able to nego. It's okay i told him, you can always learn. At least he paid 300k for first time, I paid 400k on mine.

At 3plus we went to fetch our other 3 friends, change their money, check in, it was 4pm by then. One of the guys wanted to try his luck to see if there's any girls he can still book. Tell you bros, at 4pm on the weekend damn jilat. But he did got his girl, from indah2. 1mil looks 5/10 but her service was 8.5/10. Why 8.5? My friend did not leave his room once we got back to our hotel from 10pm to 7am. Within that short period, they both f the hell out of each other 4times. Hahaha. Not bad for a 1mil cewek.

Back to the story, for the other 2 bros decide not to take any girls. (Highlight of the trip for me is here) ; I brought them to one of the famous spa there. I can't tell you bros where, as I've promise the therapist not to share with anyone about the price i paid her for the fj. So a promise is a promise. But I'm sure you guys knows where is it and even been there. Massage was 1.5hr. So-so massage. Her looks was 8.5 I tell you. One of the prettiest one I've seen there. Got a great ass and a nice and smooth b cup. After the massage, she told me is done. I acted blur and ask ; is that it? She then ask what do i want? So i asked what you have. Qoted 600k for fj and 400 for hj. So I nego and it wasn't easy. Sweet talk my shit out the price of 300k for a fj. Do note it's not the normal spa, one of the expensive one. Ask her if she does outside jobs, and she said it cost about 600k per round if a therapist were to do outsid job.

So got my 300k fj, worth every cent. Nego took so long that once all is done, all my other 4 friends have already change. One of the guys took a fj which cost him 600k. She did told me it's not possible for the price she quoted me, that's why she has to hide and even wash the use condom and if anyone were to ask, just tell them i just got a hj. I'm not sure if it's a company policy or is there a certain amount that they cant go any lower in this kind of spa's. Any idea bros?

After all is done, it's already 8pm we went for seafood then fetch our girls. Was expecting them to give us the black face, surprisingly no. They were okay. My friend hit the jackpot when his sri kandi cewek begin to speak Mandarin. He was so happy. Hahaha. She was working in Taiwan for 6 years, that's why she's fluent in mandarin. My friend will make her his regular if he visits from now on, as the cewek was gf materiel too.

Back to our hotel, i did my two shots, then sleep. Morning decide not to take the 3rd shot, send her off with 150k tip as she complied to anything the last night. After breakfast call of another in room massage she qoted me 400 for hj and 800 fj. I just smiled and nego. Got 200k for the same thing as the first one. After that, we went shopping and took our ferry back. Oh Even got stop by our finest Singapore coast guard when reaching Singapore.

What i learn in this trip is, if your not shy, be humble and give and take here and there. You may meet at half way line of the price they quoted, but still not pro as you bros, get lower price. If your willing to learn, anything is possible. Best part is, my friends enjoyed their trip, and already asking me to plan for Jan 2017.

Thanks bros for reading. Sorry for the long post and spellings error here and there. I did not read through as it's such a long fr.

tomcat007

05-12-2016, 06:23 PM

Your friend got Yuni from Sri Kandi? If not, next time can try. This girl good service.

fde83

05-12-2016, 07:51 PM

Wah!! so many new movies coming up, 1st was underworld, now it's incarnate, have not include star wars: roque one coming out next week. How to watch 3 movies in a day in batam but I like it. Hahaha. Next week can't get any sooner.

Kaboon

05-12-2016, 08:15 PM

Back to our hotel, i did my two shots, then sleep. Morning decide not to take the 3rd shot, send her off with 150k tip as she complied to anything the last night. After breakfast call of another in room massage she qoted me 400 for hj and 800 fj. I just smiled and nego. Got 200k for the same thing as the first one. After that, we went shopping and took our ferry back. Oh Even got stop by our finest Singapore coast guard when reaching Singapore.

Wen u really read tis thread & stay in the rite hotel frm start,u are almost impossible to fail.

Good share bro. ;)

jookowi

05-12-2016, 09:35 PM

QQ.[B]lurry

05-12-2016, 10:36 PM

After reading the latest few FRs, I have to do a little intervention down here.

As one of the Seniors in here, I felt that there is a need to maintain the cheap prices when we sillypore go cheong in batam.

To be frank, ALL of us are able to afford a 2juta ST for a batam cewek. Yes we all can do that without getting in large debts.

But the fact is, there are many Bros here who are "hardcore chiongsters". They do it more than once a month kinda thing. Some even weekly affair. Imagine weekly affair, each ST is 2 juta. That 8 juta for 4times ONLY. It is painful especially after including the ferry and hotel prices in.

Even if in massage 500k for fj and you dont bother to bargain. That's 2 juta per month if done weekly.

At the end of the day, we cheongsters should enjoy bearing in mind that we do want to spend as little as possible with the maximum benefits. There are so many things we can do with money to make a difference rather than just throwing it at any cewek in Batam.
Please bear in mind that the average income for most batam people is 2-3 juta per month.

I am familiar with batam and pattaya playstyle. Yes, you may say you are helping them if you give extra money but at the end of the day, you are just making them to be more hopeful that the next customer she will get the same amount of money etc...... It is not healthy. And it may jack up the prices in batam in a short moment.
Gone were the days when you can pay $50 for overnight in batam and fcuk as many as you want.

I used to take ceweks from booking joints. Even then i felt the best of the best girls i got before still felt abit too commercial and deep inside i knew they are doing this just for the money.
Even wechat freelance same thing. Perhaps I was lucky enough to keep 1 which i RTF on a weekly basis for less than 1juta LT, 22yr old woman.
But that doesn't stops me from wanting even lesser to give to the girl.

So I venture into the KTVs in Batam. Basically M1 and M2. So far I've been in "relationship" with 2 ceweks from M1. The first one was about 7 months and now the 2nd one whom is a 20yr old petite girl (1.56m, 44kg) has been with me for 2 months.

What benefits do i get?
RTF weekly, longtime i only give 600k-800k depending on how much i left with after changing $100 per trip (for her expenses). No asking for more. Of course makan everything i sponsor.
Best part is she fetch me from harbourbay terminal.
Fcuk more than 3 times no complain either.
From 9am arrival until next day 7pm ferry back home.
GFE was more real this time round.
I did this to both my ex batam cewek and the latest one now.

Some tips:
1) Speak bahasa indonesia
2) Have a heart and not just throw money just bcoz you from Singapore
3) Discuss some future with her for a long term period
4) Contact her on a daily basis with video call etc to make her confident.
5) Do what you have promise to her and she is all yours.

Yes at start you need to do some investment go KTV etc spend money. But that is the opening to get to know these ladies especially the young ones whom just started and hasn't been corrupted yet with money.

Anyway, whatever you Bros gonna do in batam just remember that the average pay of Batam people is 2-3 juta per month. Tip wisely and don't let them prey on us easily. Thank you. Have a nice day.

nono1973

05-12-2016, 11:21 PM

Below quoted is an interesting news that caught my attention today. For someone who enjoy a good movie time in Batam,this is not a good news for me. Let's see when Cinema 21 will increase movie ticket price after GIC invested in it,hehehe...quoting certain part of bro iccy's words,...welcome to the soon-to-be province of Sillypore.

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=15382148&postcount=4645

There used to be an old saying i read in this forum,everywhere Sillyporean frequent, almost surely will turn to become expensive,now Sillypore Gov also join in the fun,hehehe...seems like 'the worst is yet to be'.

Just a thought for the day.

Singapore's GIC to invest over $260 million in Indonesia's Cinema 21 operator

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/05/zNSCV.jpg

Singapore sovereign wealth fund GIC is investing 3.5 trillion rupiah ($260.7 million) in a company that operates Indonesia's biggest cinema chain, marking the latest foreign investment in the country's burgeoning movie industry.

GIC's partnership with PT Nusantara Sejahtera Raya (NSR), which runs Cinema 21, Cinema XXI and The Premiere brands in Indonesia, will expand "NSR's cinema footprint nationally", according to a joint statement on Monday.

"The investment by GIC reflects our confidence in Indonesia's long-term growth potential," GIC said, adding that NSR stands to benefit from "the rapidly expanding consumer class and economic development in Indonesia."

The movie market, one of dozens of industries that Indonesia liberalized in February, is increasingly whetting the appetite of overseas companies. Previously, the so-called "negative investment list" shut most of the industry to foreigners.

In August, South Korea's CJ CGV Co Ltd spent $25.4 million to raise its stake in Indonesia's second-biggest cinema chain, CGV Blitz, to nearly 23 percent from 14.75 percent.

shiokshiokrelax

05-12-2016, 11:30 PM

iicycold

06-12-2016, 08:32 AM

lurry;15390211']
Anyway, whatever you Bros gonna do in batam just remember that the average pay of Batam people is 2-3 juta per month. Tip wisely and don't let them prey on us easily. Thank you. Have a nice day.

Finally sm1 w sm basic c'mon sense postin here. :D

read using c'mon sense also needed 2.

mygirly

06-12-2016, 08:45 AM

Be it massage girls, KTV girls, wechat girls or any wl for that matters.
They will ask two very important qns ; 1. Where r u from? Jackpot if u r sillypore.
2. Are u first time in Batam? Jackpot again if u answer "yes".
This is my observation.

wolverman

06-12-2016, 12:53 PM

Can any season btm cheongsters care to share whether there is any shops or outlets in btm selling sex toys and sexy lingeries?
TIA..

Naka_Timo

06-12-2016, 12:54 PM

Bro Barnacles,

No worries, you did nothing wrong and no need apologise.

tomcat007

06-12-2016, 01:07 PM

Can any season btm cheongsters care to share whether there is any shops or outlets in btm selling sex toys and sexy lingeries?
TIA..

Seedy lingeries, yes. Sex toy, never seen before.

nono1973

06-12-2016, 02:12 PM

Looks like a new Hotel around Nagoya with all basic stuffs like wifi,24 hr room service. Supposingly should be quite alright base on the price paid. Its nearby to NED,so this is gonna be good for night owl party pub-hoppers.

Barelang Hotel

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/04/tm5aV.jpg

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/04/eYoE5.jpg

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/04/xCSht.jpg

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/04/UfY5s.jpg

Simple hotel,with simple rooms. But for the price,should be quite alright for a night stay.

The 2 Barelang hotel receptionists below is not included in the hotel price above,hehehe...

61204

Will have to go recce the hotel around bridge masage and Nasa Hotel which was under construction since Oct 2016. Currently,there is so little info online.

I definitely haven't forget NASA hotel yet, and for those who wish to ask about it,hehehe...I might go look at it in my next Batam trip. So far,not much info as yet.

https://sammyboysexforum.com/showpost.php?p=15186427&postcount=3824

...and if you do have some info,do feel free to share it.

My sincere thanks.

grandfather

06-12-2016, 03:02 PM

Looks like a new Hotel around Nagoya with all basic stuffs like wifi,24 hr room service. Supposingly should be quite alright base on the price paid. Its nearby to NED,so this is gonna be good for night owl party pub-hoppers.
...and if you do have some info,do feel free to share it.

My sincere thanks.

BroNoNo，
can chk with you google listed Tel is +62 778 7711002
Hotel website : +62 77 8546 3728

so which is which? or both number same?

nono1973

06-12-2016, 04:37 PM

can chk with you google listed Tel is +62 778 7711002
Hotel website : +62 77 8546 3728

so which is which? or both number same?

Your google says : +62 778 7711002

But my google says...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/06/a4W39.jpg

So I am guessing +62 77 8546 3728 from their website is the correct number. :D

grandfather

06-12-2016, 05:20 PM

Your google says : +62 778 7711002

But my google says...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/06/a4W39.jpg

So I am guessing +62 77 8546 3728 from their website is the correct number. :D

thanks bro, might try it next time i go.:D

xiaovic

06-12-2016, 06:46 PM

Bro, I am going this weekend. Will be staying nagoya mansion hotel. Know any in-house massage or call for girl overnight? As I will be going with group of friend have to do this secretly haha...

hawkeye007

06-12-2016, 06:54 PM

Went for a commando trip to try out Grand Dragon Spa at Batam City Hotel a couple of days ago.

Will post my FR within this couple of days.

legolas99

06-12-2016, 08:27 PM

Hello, I got a batam ferry ticket on Majestic to and fro batam center/sekupang.

this was purchased from groupon. date of ferry to be booked b6 10 dec 2016 and travel by 31 dec2016.

anybody interested to buy from me for 25 sgd

change on my plan so unable to make it.

mygirly

06-12-2016, 08:28 PM

Can any season btm cheongsters care to share whether there is any shops or outlets in btm selling sex toys and sexy lingeries?
TIA..

Nvr see before. Why u want buy sex toys in Batam?
Couples in Batam ask me help them buy in SG leh...lol

mygirly

06-12-2016, 08:29 PM

BFOMF5

06-12-2016, 08:52 PM

thanks bro, might try it next time i go.:D
Sorry bros....
As at tonight 1908hrs
It still not open:(
http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23232/23232257806b53c5c00f109b0eb4e2a7190fc3bf.jpg

legolas99

06-12-2016, 10:09 PM

Haven't incl tax right?

never mention to pay tax.

BFOMF5

06-12-2016, 10:12 PM

wolverman

07-12-2016, 09:10 AM

Seedy lingeries, yes. Sex toy, never seen before.

Noted with tks, bro.

wolverman

07-12-2016, 09:12 AM

Nvr see before. Why u want buy sex toys in Batam?
Couples in Batam ask me help them buy in SG leh...lol

Thought maybe is cheaper in btm. Also to avoid unnecessay hassle with the authorities there.:)

grandfather

07-12-2016, 09:23 AM

Sorry bros....
As at tonight 1908hrs
It still not open:(
http://img7.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23232/23232257806b53c5c00f109b0eb4e2a7190fc3bf.jpg

havent got the lic to operate is it? how come their website put oerational liao. :confused:

nono1973

07-12-2016, 10:52 AM

Thanks bro nono, I generally don't take prc in indon :) just happen that time was totally my cai.

PRCs is for when i am in Sillypore and/or being in Malaysia (and China of course,hehehe..),not for me in Batam. Of course there will be cheaper PRCs in Batam,but i wasnt exactly keen on them.

I normally switch between ktv n booking joint depending on the timing and my mood.
I would love to buy you a drink to thank you for your contributions in this thread that was extremely helpful. I have also benefit from it. PM me the next time you are head up and i'll see if I can swing over

Yea,same here,if i go to Batam in the earlier part of the day,i go to booking joint,if i am there in the later noon towards evening,i usually target the KTV girls or massage girls. The only time i could confirm my trip is CNY 2017,even right nw...I am still preparing for it.

Nice 34th Summary bro

Thank you for reading.

Onli those who willin 2 learn keeps movin fwd.

I am still learning today and I don't plan to stop growing myself in Batam.

Tis is btm,business good,price up,service lvl drop,..business bad,service lvl up ,price drop & wen stil no good,they close shp...lol. U r damn fricking rite,it was mostly "sillyporean" who allows em 2 increase their price since the big bulk of their income wasn't frm locals.

Most of their locals siam tat spa far far long time ago. Wan cheap & good,follow their locals. Wan 2 get chop? jus follow any tourist @ nagoya hill mall. Wan 2 get chop even harder,don't ask price.Wan 2 get chop the hardest,don't read tis thread at all.

My best spa time i have is in Biz Hotel, after a good massage i had a bubble bath battle with my girl in the 2 person Jacuzzi bath tub,hehehe...yes,both of us were having fun.

Yr cny first choice looks good!

At least she is normal. The best part about her is that she cum many times during out sessions and every time she cums,her pussy muscle will auto-push my dick out and everytime she does that,i just kept driving deeper in. Imagine,this goes on and on and on for hours,hehehe...her lips biting and her shivering expression was a complete killer. I am aiming to take a video of that part soon,hehehe...;)

Will show you those video if fate allow us to link up,hehehe...

Went over to Mitra Raya today and tried Aciang chicken rice; it's actually quite good! I like their white steamed chicken more than the roasted chicken though.

Next time you're in Mitra, check out Starmas coffeeshop; you can see its location on your map.

The bak kut teh (Teochew style; very flavorable with well-balanced peppery taste) and the lak-sa deserves a special mention. The BKT stall also sells a pretty good braised pig's trotters. I usually eat there once a week.

Thank you for the recommendation. White bak kut teh not really my cup of tea tho i wont reject them. I would go have a look...and may give it a try. It would be my 1st try on white bak kut the in Batam, hehehe...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/02/Wk273.jpg

Sincerely thank you for sharing.

I think that all that is very sad. From your words, I understand that she must have suffered some heavy trauma, which left her with the psychological problems or illness that you have witnessed. She must have no family, no one to care about her, no way to sustain herself and she found herself working that way. Who knows what story of desperation may be behind what you have seen today?

Hmm...maybe, but I still hope to get to understand her more. I have seen enough girls sobbing over their past and sharing it out openly with me over my many years of cheonging (some do holds hope that I may pity them etc,or it could be some of their tricks). This one is special becos she doesn't complain,doesnt sob,doesnt even want to share her story etc. Practically locking herself up in her own world.

For now, she's unique to me...hehehe...

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 11:21 AM

havent got the lic to operate is it? how come their website put oerational liao. :confused:
Not sure....
maybe didn't pay enough "Tax"... :D
Or
Really Waiting for the 良辰吉日

From appearance it should be ready to open any time.

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 11:34 AM

Double post

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 11:38 AM

waiting for lunch to be ready

http://img9.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23234/232348099b6778efcf079ed919e41624c56b355a.jpg

hawkeye007

07-12-2016, 12:37 PM

Thank you for the recommendation. White bak kut teh not really my cup of tea tho i wont reject them. I would go have a look...and may give it a try. It would be my 1st try on white bak kut the in Batam, hehehe...

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/02/Wk273.jpg

Sincerely thank you for sharing.

Wow, u even have a photo of Star Mas.. LOL..

That's the boss Ah Soon manning the BKT stall. The mie pangsit stall (Ah Long Mie Pangsit) serves a pretty good lak-sa, but can skip the mie pangsit/bakchor mie; it's only mediocre

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 01:05 PM

http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23235/2323514470b68134761c5de98e2219fbfc7aca4f.jpg
Last nite left over Satay buaya with home cooked brown rice and bakso

iicycold

07-12-2016, 04:57 PM

Went for a commando trip to try out Grand Dragon Spa at Batam City Hotel a couple of days ago.

Will post my FR within this couple of days.

Hmm...smthg new,camping here 4 yr FR. :D

http://imgallery.avseesee.com/images/2016/12/07/0b0c58b3e415b360c564ba8903f82c82.gif

waiting for lunch to be ready

No wonder seldom see u here,u nesting in btm nw ah. :D

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 05:53 PM

New bus service to Tg.Piayu
http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23236/2323617050bd061cf7ab8d79cde9dd36c51a5885.jpg

midnightinparis

07-12-2016, 06:04 PM

Batam/balai Bros gentle reminder..
This coming Monday,Des12, is a public holiday for Malaysia and Indonesia.
http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23232/232324112b6a7f57461a6d8c872d9bd467cde9d4.jpg
As Malaysian is having their long weekend... Sunday cheongster might experiencing more stiff competition..
Good luck....

Hi all, I will be going to Batam on Monday. Will the booking joints be open on a public holiday? Do you recommend I go on Tuesday instead? Is there anything else I should take note of?

Hope seasoned cheongsters can advise. Thanks in advance! :)

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 06:30 PM

No wonder seldom see u here,u nesting in btm nw ah. :D
ya...
In Sep Oct
I visit batam once a week for an average of 3d2n..
In Nov...
become 4n3d.

As for now..
I'll :D VISIT:D Sgp only...
when i need S$ :(

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 06:36 PM

New bus service to Tg.Piayu
http://img0.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23236/2323617050bd061cf7ab8d79cde9dd36c51a5885.jpg
End here
http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23236/23236161fccf4b07471a4cff4497d1dcd3eb6b81.png
More photo later...

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 06:42 PM

Dinner for Two
Rp10k

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23236/232363936486070e3c7352e063e018b0a76f592c.jpg

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 06:52 PM

Haha
My girl just proudly telling me that today our total expenditure only Rp10k:):D
Ops..
Dinner time now!

mygirly

07-12-2016, 08:57 PM

Thought maybe is cheaper in btm. Also to avoid unnecessay hassle with the authorities there.:)

Bro, its not illegal to own any sex toys in Indonesia.
I've brought dildos, vibes, butt plugs, sex pantries to Batam n pass thru their x-ray w/o any issues.

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 09:01 PM

Haha
My girl just proudly telling me that today our total expenditure only Rp10k:):D
Ops..
Dinner time now!

Our Simple dinner
Brown rice
Fried Fish
Salted egg
Nanga

Bakso soup
http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23237/23237092d4385b56fa8dd86c330c789bcb1f0599.jpg

mygirly

07-12-2016, 09:14 PM

Dinner for Two
Rp10k

http://img3.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23236/232363936486070e3c7352e063e018b0a76f592c.jpg

Two persons eat so little?

nono1973

07-12-2016, 09:33 PM

Dear all who PM-ed me regarding the Newbie Batam Group trip/s,

1st of all,i apologize for not replying your PM, there are simply way too many of them over the last 2 to 3 weeks. But I would like to announce here that due to work life and my own private schedule (its year end), there are currently no newbie group trips from me. If there is one,it will usually be announced here in the thread about 7 to 10 days in advance in this thread.

Thank you for all your interest.

If you planned to go to Batam,following my newbie Batam travel guides written on my signature,i can be almost sure that you will be able to navigate Batam on your own. Many 1st time newbies has succeeded before (if you read this thread and the old thread),so I am pretty sure with your wisdom from reading it and determination to try to understand it,you should have no problem getting there to test out if Batam is suitable for you as a cheonging ground.

When travelling to Batam,my personal constant advise is always :

1. Drop whatever expectation you have by at least half.

2. Be humble

3. Be courteous and nice

4. Be patience

5. Read the page 1 key point of this thread

6. Always bargain downward (most important among all the 6 advises)

I said it before and I am going to say it again,...going to Batam is like taking a ferry to go to Sentosa,all you need is a passport with at least 6 month validity,a little courage and a willing heart to learn. Following my guides, you seriously cannot fail too far even if you are running solo.

For newbies or 1st timer,your step number 1 should be staying in the right hotel. And then navigate from there onward.

Basic steps to go to Batam is just :

1. Book a ferry from Harbour Front Horizon Ferry (aka ex. Prima Ferries) to Harbour Bay

2. Reach Harbour Bay Ferry terminal, take a taxi to your hotel (taking a taxi is where your 1st bargaining starts).

3. The rest from here on,you will have to read my guides, becos once you are at the correct hotel,you cant really fail very much thereon. And if you do,you may wish to visit Tua Pek kong Temple to ask for flower water to bathe in (bathing in flower water here is a joke,its meant to wash away bad luck and what i mean is,you just dont have the luck).

Do not need to worry about language barrier. Do not even need to worry about no girls becos staying in the right place give you access to almost every kind of girls you are looking for (if you are in the right time and luck of course).

One last thing in some of the PM I received, i would say try not to PM me telling me you have read my Guides and then start asking me questions like how much you will need to bring to Batam, where to find the girls, which joints or KTVs to go to ,which hotel to stay in etc...hehehe...becos anyone who reads my guides on my signature will definitely 101% knows,the answers to those questions has already been on the guides itself. Yes,its a strong word when i use "101%",hehehe...if you pop the same question/s in the public,you might most likely be ask to read the thread or my signature too.

Post any question/s that is not on my guide/s here or seldom discussed,i am sure the many bros who were way more experience than myself will be happy to answer them (if they knew),and at the same time,i could also learn from them. Win-win situation, right? You get the answers,we all get to learn.

And if you are already in Batam and encounter any problem,do not be shy to post your question/s or doubt/s too. Help is often available and this is why this thread is named : "Batam Info / Interest / Help Thread". Nearly all basic info travelling to Batam is on page 1 or my signature (which is updated),everyone here is here for the similar Interest regarding Batam and Help is most often,always available.

Thank you all for reading this message and in hope for your kindest understanding.

May all newbies here have their happiest, most exotic experience in Batam. And if you didn't, come back here to see where goes not right, with a willing-to-learn heart, do some fine tuning (or correction if needed) in your next trip and you may just be ready to have a better next trip. Repeat this process and each of your future trips thereafter to Batam will just get better and better.

Cheers!! ;)

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 10:01 PM

Two persons eat so little?
With home cook Brown rice, Bakso
And some koropo la...
Can't afford 大鱼大肉...
Unless you want to belanja me

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 10:18 PM

Some photo of Tg.Piayu
http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23237/2323735174dddf629793ed0f22a76798e41aa4e7.jpg
http://img4.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23237/23237364ab75d811fa544b627aee4ce7bb9f34ec.jpg

http://img1.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23237/23237381ee9eef1183bf8ba86af34386db396ae4.jpg

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23237/23237386d41fbfbccb5c99a41131c26e1b136cc0.jpg

BFOMF5

07-12-2016, 10:24 PM

http://img2.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/23237/2323756204048b574c53223150d3b91882e96fe0.jpg

legolas99

07-12-2016, 10:26 PM

since I cant get rid of my ticket, I will be going over to batam from 22 to 26 dec.

need some advice as this would be my only 3rd trip after 1+ years of absence from batam. think my things had changed

1. are there any extreme price increase for booking from joint during Christmas period?

2. if I m going alone, can I go ktv just to book a girl just for the night? never try ktv before

3. other than ktv and booking joint, wat r the other avenues for booking girls overnight

4. is there any map of booking joint available ? read back 30 pages but cant find any

5. 1yr + ago, it was said to avoid new berry and indah. memory was said to have little girls. goldbird was the popular joint. is that still the same?

thank you.

mygirly

07-12-2016, 11:13 PM

With home cook Brown rice, Bakso
And some koropo la...
Can't afford 大鱼大肉...
Unless you want to belanja me

No problem lah bro.
U come with ur girl, I go market in the morning and cook for you.
I'm not joking hor.

Pm ur wechat

fde83

07-12-2016, 11:15 PM

All the answers can be found on bro nono signature n guides. May u have a good trip ahead.

BFOMF5

08-12-2016, 12:04 AM

No problem lah bro.
U come with ur girl, I go market in the morning and cook for you.
I'm not joking hor.

Pm ur wechat
Haha
I joking only lah...;)

hawkeye007

08-12-2016, 12:46 AM

Went for a commando trip to try out Grand Dragon Spa at Batam City Hotel a couple of days ago.

Will post my FR within this couple of days.

Review on NEW SPA

LOCATION: Penuin, Batam City Hotel New Wing, Levels 5 & 6
OPERATING HOURS: 11am - 11pm

Heard about this place and decided to give it a try last Sunday.

NEW Spa was opened approximately 2 months ago. According to the very friendly and super chio GRO that chatted with me, the spa is still in a soft opening stage, and they still have yet to have their grand opening.

This spa was initially opened as a massage + HJ place, i.e., you pay one fixed price for a semi-decent massage + HJ over 90 minutes. I learnt that many of the therapists were poached over from Octopuss spa.

About 2 weeks ago, they started having a full FJ package as well.

In short, NEW Spa is essentially operating like Octopuss, with the following packages available:

TH1 (pronounced as Tay-Ha Satu) - Massage + HJ (90mins)
TH2 (pronounced as Tay-Ha Dua) - Body massage + BBBJ + FJ (60mins)

TH1

The published rate of TH1 in NEW Spa is at RP388,800. This rate is cheaper than Octopuss' published rate of RP446,000.

NEW Spa also have a happy hour period from 11am - 5pm, whereby you are given a 40% discount off the TH1 package. This means you will only pay approximately 233k during happy hour to get a HJ happy ending.

Hence, in this instance, NEW Spa wins hands down, especially during happy hour with its pricing at almost 1/2 of Octopuss.

However, if you are an Octopuss member (you can become a member for free), you will get a 30% discount, hence you pay abt 312k.

This means that during non-happy hours (between 5-11pm), Octopuss has the better rate if you are a member vs NEW Spa.

NEW Spa currently has about 15 therapists for this category. You will not be able to see the therapists prior, i.e., they won't be paraded in front of you for U to choose.

TH2

As mentioned earlier, TH2 was started in NEW Spa for less than 2 weeks only. They currently only have 3 girls under this category, but the GRO says that they are expecting more in the coming weeks.

The pricing of TH2 is at RP888,800, or 500k more than TH1. According to the GRO, this is the so-called Gold category. If it is true, then it is cheaper than Octopuss' Gold category gals, which are priced at 946k.

Happy hour rates will also apply to TH2 bookings, but it is not a straight 40% discount off the 888k rate. Instead, it will be 40% off the TH1 rate, then add on 500k. This means:

388k - 40% = 233k + 500k = 733k

In this instance, it is a little more difficult to make a comparison with Octopuss as they have Silver & Gold category. In Octopuss, the prices for TH2 are:

...........Usual Price....Member Price (approximate)

Silver---746k---------612k
Gold----946k---------812k

For NEW Spa, the prices are:

...........Usual Price....Happy Hour Price

Silver---688k----------533k
Gold----888k----------733k

GRO shared that in the future, NEW Spa will also have Silver category gals. Similar to Octopuss, you can ask the GRO to summon all the TH2 ceweks to be paraded in front of you; this is known locally as "contest".

Hope the above price comparison will help everyone to draw their own price conclusions.

FACILITIES

NEW Spa has the same usual facilities for a Batam spa; hot pool, sauna, steam room, gym, etc. Being a newly opened place, the facilities are of course in more pristine condition than Octopuss.

The facilities are all located in Level 5 while the rooms are all located on Level 6.

SERVICE

For my inaugural trip, I decided to go straight to the point and chiong for a TH2 package. I sat on the sofa and before long, a GRO came to join me.

Now I need to sidetrack a little and say that this GRO (her name is Willy) is goddamn bloody chio! She's about 1.65m with a sweet face and an absolutely tight and lithe body! She was wearing a short pair of shorts and I couldn't keep my eyes away from her silky smooth long legs.. I chatted with her for quite a bit and told her frankly that if she was working TH2, I'd be RTF-ing her every week. Hahaha... if any Bros succeed in KC-ing, you have my utmost congratulations.. Hehe

Anyways, back to my booking. As mentioned, they only have 3 gals working in this category. Willy said that one was on code red, one was in room working so left only one, but promised me this one is very chio & good service. She called her out and lo & behold, she was one of my usual gal (Gold category) from Octopuss that I had RTF-ed several times!

So without further ado, I took her and the rest was pure, sweet history; we already had the strong chemistry from our previous sessions and it was as usual an extremely sextifying session.

I took the executive room and it was nice and clean, with a decent albeit small shower area and the air con was very strong. No TV though vs Octopuss which has TV in the rooms.

Service as shared include BM, BBBJ & FJ. A glass of ice was also placed in the room for what I assume is for ice BBBJ, but I didn't try it cos the sexual tension was already too high... LOL

CONCLUSION

All in all, it was not a bad (perhaps even fruitful) commando trip, and I will probably return soon to try out the TH1 package and to bio Willy... :p:p

PS: There is also a Grand Dragon KTV within the same compound and I believe it is the same concept as the other KTVs like M1, M2, Alisan, BC, etc with gals available for seating and/or booking. I'm not really a KTV person so I shall leave to that other Bros to venture and thereafter provide FR...

lanceage

08-12-2016, 01:13 AM

Heading over this friday. if anyone want to meet up let me know.

iicycold

08-12-2016, 08:47 AM

Review on GRAND DRAGON SPA

LOCATION: Penuin, Batam City Hotel New Wing, Levels 5 & 6
OPERATING HOURS: 11am - 11pm

Thk u 4 sharing,jus up u my pts 4 a gd share.

May go there2 try out since it's nw quite cheap,wait until their business becm good tat time,offer will likely b goner. :D

thx u har.

hawkeye007

08-12-2016, 09:41 AM

Thk u 4 sharing,jus up u my pts 4 a gd share.

May go there2 try out since it's nw quite cheap,wait until their business becm good tat time,offer will likely b goner. :D

thx u har.

Yeah, based on the current happy hour pricing, I feel that GDS offers the best pricing and value in whole of Batam for the TH1 package, even better than those massage joints in Utama area. Those places, 1 hour massage they quote 90-100k, piano massage a little and they will pop the GQ and usual 150k for HJ. No facilities and the rooms are crap.

In GDS, the price of 233k will allow you to use the spa facilities, get a decent massage and end off with HJ. Up to individual to see if can top up 100k to get the therapist to strip/autoroam. Stay there whole day to bio the GROs also no issue, nobody will chase you away. Hehehe

paulee

08-12-2016, 09:49 AM

Plan to Go next friday. if anyone wants to meet up let me know.

tomcat007

08-12-2016, 09:56 AM

Yeah, based on the current happy hour pricing, I feel that GDS offers the best pricing and value in whole of Batam for the TH1 package, even better than those massage joints in Utama area. Those places, 1 hour massage they quote 90-100k, piano massage a little and they will pop the GQ and usual 150k for HJ. No facilities and the rooms are crap.

In GDS, the price of 233k will allow you to use the spa facilities, get a decent massage and end off with HJ. Up to individual to see if can top up 100k to get the therapist to strip/autoroam. Stay there whole day to bio the GROs also no issue, nobody will chase you away. Hehehe

Thank you for being a commando and posting this fr.

lookie85

08-12-2016, 01:11 PM

Is batam better to visit or balai better?

lookie85

08-12-2016, 01:13 PM

Which is the best sim card with high data?

tomcat007

08-12-2016, 01:33 PM

Is batam better to visit or balai better?

Singapore best.

hawkeye007

08-12-2016, 02:27 PM

Is batam better to visit or balai better?

Both not so good, Bintan will be the best.

fde83

08-12-2016, 02:37 PM

Singapore best.

Best answer. Cant go wrong this one

nono1973

08-12-2016, 06:41 PM

You like that say Bro S, good meh.... I wonder how he is now..

I am thinking if he wish to join me in my coming CNY 2017 trip,he will need to PM me soon.

Good share on yr 34th Trip summary in batam. I see consistency in you & now i am wondering what makes you so persistently consistent to provide a monthly summary duely every month for 34 times.

Thank you bro.

I think I have explained that in the beginning of this thread before,there should be a few reasons :

1. 弱者報仇，強者寬恕，智者忘懷 - It start off with me being weak and lesser intelligent but later become stronger and more intelligent. I was new to the forum,i wish to go to Batam,i was ask to read the old thread from page one,my heart and mind becomes inbalance after reading it 4 times,so I tell myself I wish to avenge fate. (so that new readers need NOT have to read all pages of the old thread)

For those who wish to try reading,below is page one of the old thread :

https://www.sammyboysexforum.com/showthread.php?t=66580

...and there are 2298 pages. This new one only has 300+ pages,hehehe...

However it is only at a later time when I stand at where I am standing here today, did I realize why many seniors send newbies to read page one of the old thread.

2. Its like my travel diary or kind of like a record book where I keep a record of stuffs...the good and the bad,it helps to know where I can enjoy Batam better and what to avoid. Best part is,it helps me to prevent repeated mistakes too. I looked back my summaries of yesteryears and have a good laugh...my stupidity, my wins, my enjoyment etc etc.

I couldn't remember all places of Batam,but the least I could do is to have them recorded down.

3. I am a regimental person, and much often 'expect' consistency in myself and as a customer in Batam.

In other words,what makes you so persistent in having those summaries (& guides) here? :)

As above. ;)

However,i still drop my expectations.

Part of my combat rations :

http://www.picturevip.com/x/clean/images/2016/12/08/pgKwX.jpg