Section 376B: Commercial sex with minor under 18

[asdfghjkl]

This thread is to educate members about the recent case of the underage FL, which caused such a big uproar in Singapore.

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Commercial sex with minor under 18 (376B)

(1) Any person who obtains for consideration the sexual services of a person, who is under 18 years of age, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 7 years, or with fine, or with both.

(2) Any person who communicates with another person for the purpose of obtaining for consideration, the sexual services of a person who is under 18 years of age, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to 2 years, or with fine, or with both.

(3) No person shall be guilty of an offense under this section for any sexual services obtained from that person’s spouse.

(4) In this section, “sexual services” means any sexual services involving —

(a) sexual penetration of the vagina or anus, as the case may be, of a person by a part of another person’s body (other than the penis) or by anything else; or

(b) penetration of the vagina, anus or mouth, as the case may be, of a person by a man’s penis.

[asdfghjkl]

Thus, by this paragraph, if a man had oral sex with the 17 year old FL, its a criminal act.

However, my interpretation is that mammary intercourse (breast fuck) is actually legal in this case for the underage FL.

Anyone can shed some light on this matter?

[JRthe6]

Singapore is a signatory to the United Nations Human Rights Protocol to the Convention of the Rights of the Child (UNHRCRC) on the sale of children, child prostitution and child pornography. Currently more than 100 countries are signatories to the Protocol.

As a signatory, Singapore is obliged to observe and position its laws in line with that of the protocol.

The UNHRCRC first came into force in 2002 but that originally did not have the below 18 section. Because of allegations that surfaced in 2005 that UN peacekeepers deployed around the world were engaging child prostitutes, UN Sec-Gen Kofi Annan directed a team of experts led by UN Asst Sec-Gen Adeline Kane to do a redraft of the original and thus the amended Protocol to the UNHRCRC now has included in it a section that prohibits sexual activities with persons under 18, for the exchange of money, goods or services for sexual favours. This new protocol came into force sometime in either 2009 or 2010. Singapore became a signatory to this new amended protocol. (So if these 48 men had screwed "Chantelle" in 2008/2009 they would not have broken the law).

This does not apply only in Singapore but in all the other 100+ countries that were signatories to the UNHRCRC.

JR the 6th

[dander]

Originally Posted by asdfghjkl

Thus, by this paragraph, if a man had oral sex with the 17 year old FL, its a criminal act.

However, my interpretation is that mammary intercourse (breast fuck) is actually legal in this case for the underage FL.

Anyone can shed some light on this matter?

Mammary intercourse falls within the ambit of the section as it is clearly "sexual service"

[wallace741852]

Thanks TS for sharing.
Does that mean if the FL is 18yrs old it is legal and police cant press charges to us? So if we happen to have police raid in hotel and we caught in action we can just tell them the girl is FL?

[flamboyant]

Originally Posted by wallace741852

Thanks TS for sharing.
Does that mean if the FL is 18yrs old it is legal and police cant press charges to us? So if we happen to have police raid in hotel and we caught in action we can just tell them the girl is FL?

Yes. But the police may compel you to make your statement in a certain way that may not be the truth. Should you refuse to cooperate and admit to the untruth they will tell you that they will call your wife to bail you. Best thing is not get caught.

[asdfghjkl]

Originally Posted by dander

Mammary intercourse falls within the ambit of the section as it is clearly "sexual service"

can you define it under 4(a) or 4(b), thanks?

[trademark]

(3) No person shall be guilty of an offense under this section for any sexual services obtained from that person’s spouse.

dont understand this statement. anyone care to explain?

[stone08]

If it's ur wife, it's alright baby! Whooha!

[Deesiaokia]

Originally Posted by stone08

If it's ur wife, it's alright baby! Whooha!

Bro, if u force yourself on your wife when she is unwillingly to have sex with u also consider rape when she report to the police.

[limkh11]

Think it is not good to play with the words or fuck around with the LAW.
End of day, things will get messy when words get to newspaper. Whether you broke the law or not.

Playing with fire.

Unless you are train to or you can afford to...

[slider_72]

Originally Posted by dander

Mammary intercourse falls within the ambit of the section as it is clearly "sexual service"

Originally Posted by asdfghjkl

can you define it under 4(a) or 4(b), thanks?

I think the law is quite clear on what amounts to "sexual services".

Under 4(a), you cannot poke her pussy or ass with any objects at all. In other words, you cannot finger the girl or even poke her with a dildo.

If the girl gives you a hand job, it would fall outside the ambit of 4(a). Also, a guy groping her breasts or touching her pussy is also outside the ambit of 4(a) (so those who cheong KTVs but do not da pao are safe even if the girl is below 18)

Taking it one step forward, if a guy places a vibrator outside the pussy (make sure don't poke inside), the act of doing so is still not considered as a "sexual service" as defined by the Penal Code.

Therefore, going by the definition in 4(a), a boobjob and hand job are both permissible.

4(b) on the other hand makes it quite clear that if you poke the girl's pussy, ass or if she gives you a bj, you are screwed if she is under 18 years old.

Originally Posted by wallace741852

Thanks TS for sharing.
Does that mean if the FL is 18yrs old it is legal and police cant press charges to us? So if we happen to have police raid in hotel and we caught in action we can just tell them the girl is FL?

Prostitution is LEGAL in this country.

Fucking a prostitute is also LEGAL in this country (provided she is above 18 years old).

Fucking a FL in a hotel room is LEGAL. If you get caught in a raid, you might be asked to provide a statement to the police as they may want to charge the pimp but that is something else altogether.

You will not be charged for fucking a FL in a hotel room. If you are not charged, there is no necessity for anyone to come and bail you. The police have to let you go once you are done giving whatever statement they want you to give. Don't be conned by comments like "shall I ask your wife to come and bail you out?". If any police officer asked you such a question, you should reply by asking "what is the offense that I am charged with?" If the police officer says you are charged for having sex with a prostitute (unless she is under 18 years old), my response would be "yah, right..."

Originally Posted by trademark

(3) No person shall be guilty of an offense under this section for any sexual services obtained from that person’s spouse.

dont understand this statement. anyone care to explain?

There is no concept of marital rape in Singapore. In other words, you cannot be charged for raping your wife. Your wife cutting your dick off when she is not in the mood is another thing altogether.

Say guy A goes to Vietnam and purchases a bride who happens to be 17 years old. Even though guy A paid money for it, and he is fucking her like nobody's business once he gets back, it is not an offense provided the deed is done after the marriage is legally registered.

Guy B purchases another 17 year old bride from Vietnam. After bringing her back, he fucks her like there is no tomorrow and does not register his marriage. For all intents and purposes, they are not husband and wife and guy B might just be charged for having commercial sex with an underaged girl.

[MitMit]

Bro, u must be a lawyer

Originally Posted by slider_72

I think the law is quite clear on what amounts to "sexual services".

Under 4(a), you cannot poke her pussy or ass with any objects at all. In other words, you cannot finger the girl or even poke her with a dildo.

If the girl gives you a hand job, it would fall outside the ambit of 4(a). Also, a guy groping her breasts or touching her pussy is also outside the ambit of 4(a) (so those who cheong KTVs but do not da pao are safe even if the girl is below 18)

Taking it one step forward, if a guy places a vibrator outside the pussy (make sure don't poke inside), the act of doing so is still not considered as a "sexual service" as defined by the Penal Code.

Therefore, going by the definition in 4(a), a boobjob and hand job are both permissible.

4(b) on the other hand makes it quite clear that if you poke the girl's pussy, ass or if she gives you a bj, you are screwed if she is under 18 years old.




Prostitution is LEGAL in this country.

Fucking a prostitute is also LEGAL in this country (provided she is above 18 years old).

Fucking a FL in a hotel room is LEGAL. If you get caught in a raid, you might be asked to provide a statement to the police as they may want to charge the pimp but that is something else altogether.

You will not be charged for fucking a FL in a hotel room. If you are not charged, there is no necessity for anyone to come and bail you. The police have to let you go once you are done giving whatever statement they want you to give. Don't be conned by comments like "shall I ask your wife to come and bail you out?". If any police officer asked you such a question, you should reply by asking "what is the offense that I am charged with?" If the police officer says you are charged for having sex with a prostitute (unless she is under 18 years old), my response would be "yah, right..."




There is no concept of marital rape in Singapore. In other words, you cannot be charged for raping your wife. Your wife cutting your dick off when she is not in the mood is another thing altogether.

Say guy A goes to Vietnam and purchases a bride who happens to be 17 years old. Even though guy A paid money for it, and he is fucking her like nobody's business once he gets back, it is not an offense provided the deed is done after the marriage is legally registered.

Guy B purchases another 17 year old bride from Vietnam. After bringing her back, he fucks her like there is no tomorrow and does not register his marriage. For all intents and purposes, they are not husband and wife and guy B might just be charged for having commercial sex with an underaged girl.

[nokia88]

From my understanding this section does not state the sex of the FL .

Does those Pre-op/op ladyboy fall under this catergory ?

[BenjiGlory]

How about having sex with no commercial transaction involved ?