Questions from GL newbie

[ii11ii]

Preface that I'm a younger fella (mid 20s), never been to GL but interested to try.

Only ever had some experience in relationship, now single already cos breakup and want to go GL because no time for another relationship due to work.

The laojiaos and more experienced ones probably don't have this fear but as a young fella I legit scared of STDs, which is the main thing holding me back so far.

How safe is the legal side of GL in general? Mainly looking at PRC houses due to preference, if any tips or recommendations from experienced bros also very welcome.

Also do the WLs get unhappy or give bad treatment if someone like me have very little experience because I've only ever done with one gf in the past sadly (sry I ugly)

Thanks bros

[Dignified69]

Originally Posted by ii11ii

Preface that I'm a younger fella (mid 20s), never been to GL but interested to try.

Only ever had some experience in relationship, now single already cos breakup and want to go GL because no time for another relationship due to work.

The laojiaos and more experienced ones probably don't have this fear but as a young fella I legit scared of STDs, which is the main thing holding me back so far.

How safe is the legal side of GL in general? Mainly looking at PRC houses due to preference, if any tips or recommendations from experienced bros also very welcome.

Also do the WLs get unhappy or give bad treatment if someone like me have very little experience because I've only ever done with one gf in the past sadly (sry I ugly)

Thanks bros

Well dressed. Clean. Good breath. Decent and dignified will get you far in life. STD risk is there and high.

Guys dont have to be handsome (not saying that it doesn't help). Go to gym, be fit and confident. Find some normal gal who makes you happy.

Enter the world of GL too early and lose your way you will. If by 35 not settled, then come here you can. Get STD oso ok then.

You have been warned by Cheongster of 17 years experience. I only started in my mid 30s.

[Hanszzz]

Sharing with you my perspectives on this, although I wouldn't consider myself experienced or anything. My reasons for visiting GL is quite different from yours and I'm older by quite abit, but I share the same concerns about STDs. It took me quite abit of deliberation (and research) before finally engage in this.

GL is legal and regulated by the government. WL need to go for routine STD testing to continue working. That makes GL WL "safer" than clubbing ONS, massage ladies or random website freelancers, because its likely that the latter groups of people don't even do regular testing. That said, it's not a 100% safe thing cuz you never know if they are infected between test periods, or the reliability of the tests (I've heard of ways to "appear healthy" during testing).

Thus, my personal stand is to "play" but as safely as possible, even if it limits my play. Some of my personal rules includes "condom ALWAYS on for any activity" and "nothing involving the mouth". That means no kissing, no licking of female privates, no uncovered BJ, etc. This of course, does limit my enjoyment, but I feel much safer and mentally less stressed after every GL visit. I'm satisfied enough to blow my load, within the rules I set for myself.

Some bros might advise BBBJ is actually quite safe, and in my research it is indeed so, and BBBJ really does feel better, but I rather the peace of mind, even if it is >1% risk. Again, it is ultimately what your appetite for risk vs enjoyment is.

I don't think WLs will be unhappy with your inexperience. If anything, it gives them the control of serve you however they prefer, since you don't have any special requests, or know better. Just like how no employee will complain boss give too little work. "Bad treatment" is subjective, since it depends on your expectations and wants out of the session, just like how some bros might be unhappy not being able to suck on nipples, but I think you'll need to visit a couple of time first to ascertain what is "bad treatment" for you.

All the best!

[Jun93]

Originally Posted by Hanszzz

Sharing with you my perspectives on this, although I wouldn't consider myself experienced or anything. My reasons for visiting GL is quite different from yours and I'm older by quite abit, but I share the same concerns about STDs. It took me quite abit of deliberation (and research) before finally engage in this.

GL is legal and regulated by the government. WL need to go for routine STD testing to continue working. That makes GL WL "safer" than clubbing ONS, massage ladies or random website freelancers, because its likely that the latter groups of people don't even do regular testing. That said, it's not a 100% safe thing cuz you never know if they are infected between test periods, or the reliability of the tests (I've heard of ways to "appear healthy" during testing).

Thus, my personal stand is to "play" but as safely as possible, even if it limits my play. Some of my personal rules includes "condom ALWAYS on for any activity" and "nothing involving the mouth". That means no kissing, no licking of female privates, no uncovered BJ, etc. This of course, does limit my enjoyment, but I feel much safer and mentally less stressed after every GL visit. I'm satisfied enough to blow my load, within the rules I set for myself.

Some bros might advise BBBJ is actually quite safe, and in my research it is indeed so, and BBBJ really does feel better, but I rather the peace of mind, even if it is >1% risk. Again, it is ultimately what your appetite for risk vs enjoyment is.

I don't think WLs will be unhappy with your inexperience. If anything, it gives them the control of serve you however they prefer, since you don't have any special requests, or know better. Just like how no employee will complain boss give too little work. "Bad treatment" is subjective, since it depends on your expectations and wants out of the session, just like how some bros might be unhappy not being able to suck on nipples, but I think you'll need to visit a couple of time first to ascertain what is "bad treatment" for you.

All the best!

Solid advice. I live by this

[RRR9]

Originally Posted by ii11ii

Preface that I'm a younger fella (mid 20s), never been to GL but interested to try.

Only ever had some experience in relationship, now single already cos breakup and want to go GL because no time for another relationship due to work.

The laojiaos and more experienced ones probably don't have this fear but as a young fella I legit scared of STDs, which is the main thing holding me back so far.

How safe is the legal side of GL in general? Mainly looking at PRC houses due to preference, if any tips or recommendations from experienced bros also very welcome.

Also do the WLs get unhappy or give bad treatment if someone like me have very little experience because I've only ever done with one gf in the past sadly (sry I ugly)

Thanks bros

My advice is DON'T go to GL. Once you started, it's impossible to stop as it's additive.

I started when I was barely 20s, and become increasing more addicted to it over the decades.

Recently in a space of 4 weeks, I spent $2k on one WL as I was really attracted to her.

Regarding STD, the other bro already explained and i agree with him.

[chenyidian]

I don't recommend it, it is addicting and ruins your mental health a lot.

[havana]

Dont start...It is like eating potato chips....

U tell yourself last piece, but U just cant stop once U start eating

[Darge]

Listen to us, don’t start. You are very young go find a decent GF. In GL if you meet a KC WL, you are dead! $$$, feelings all GONE! You will be in deep deep SHIT. Be a GOOD boy, go find a decent GF!

[WhiteMilk]

Originally Posted by ii11ii

Preface that I'm a younger fella (mid 20s), never been to GL but interested to try.

Only ever had some experience in relationship, now single already cos breakup and want to go GL because no time for another relationship due to work.

The laojiaos and more experienced ones probably don't have this fear but as a young fella I legit scared of STDs, which is the main thing holding me back so far.

How safe is the legal side of GL in general? Mainly looking at PRC houses due to preference, if any tips or recommendations from experienced bros also very welcome.

Also do the WLs get unhappy or give bad treatment if someone like me have very little experience because I've only ever done with one gf in the past sadly (sry I ugly)

Thanks bros

It's hard to say

On one hand, I want to join most of the old timer bros here who have done it all and say "DON'T START IT, YOUNGSTER!"

But on the other hand, if I think back to all my years of cheonging (not only in GL but in other countries and places out there), overall I have absolutely 0 regrets, in fact my only "regret" is not to "cheong much much more" than I did, especially considering how over the years and decades, the cheonging scene everywhere has sadly regressed a lot.

As for relationships, it seems that you were at least able to have girls wanting to be in a relationship with u, and even have sex with you. For me, from the very beginning, I can't even have any girls to go beyond "EWWW!" when I try to even talk to them. (that's why my only experience with women in my whole life is cheonging and nowhere else). But if u are able to pull ordinary girls, I would say just try to get girls that way it might be healthier overall.

But then again, we all know how women act nowadays and how crazy unrealistic their demands are no thanks to social media.

Plus, if u cheong, then u will experience many exciting things that ordinary girlfriends might not give you. For example, AR where they lick your asshole, or even anal sex (based on my experience cheonging overseas). Plus, even within GL itself you could have sexual experience with multiple nationalities of girls like Chinese, Thai, and Viet, (sadly no more Malaysian Chinese now)

As for STD, in all my years of cheonging, as far as I know, I never caught any STDs at all. If anything, since the very first time I started when I was still in my teens, and until today, my D size seemed to have increased by a few cm.

As for your little experience, I don't know how young you look like. But when I first started until I was around 24-25, (and it helps that even until today I look much younger than my actual age), WLs seemed to be "extra excited" and even "went the extra mile" when they found out that I was younger than them, and I was acting extra "nerdy, shy, scared innocent". Some even borderline r4ped me which was really exciting to say the least

But just be reminded that in 2024, the standards now is nothing compared to the olden days (for me it's mainly referring to 2007-2015 period)


Just to add to the "addicting" side of things mentioned by some bros. Yes, indeed this is a very addictive hobby and once you start you never want to stop. Even how the GL shops are like, where you could see girls lounging around asnd walking around, worse if you diligently read FRs in this forum, once you try a girl, you will see other girls, and you will be very curious to try ALL OF THEM

and there could be a slippery slope you should be prepared to navigate. Like for my experience throughout the years, my desires have evolved and getting "darker"

When I first started in my teens, all I wanted was "to get rid of my virginity and just fcuk a pussy"

Then it started expanding to "i want to try many different women", then to "I want to try different nationalities of women", then it expands again to "i want to try anal sex", and other kinks like "I want the girls to use dildos to fcuk my ass"

If you are prepared to open the pandora's box, to enter a whole new wide world, then dive in. But if not, then stick to finding girls the traditional way

[naan1974]

Originally Posted by ii11ii

Preface that I'm a younger fella (mid 20s),

You are younger than the WL in GL as you are aware.
SEX addiction aside, Like a bro who mention if you meet a KC gal, She will lead you to a pitless hell that may
Scar you for the rest of yr life. You may never be able to
have a normal heathly relationship given you have experience how cheap sex is with a warp perception that relationship = sex and sex = $xxx .
I hope you stay away till later years for your own good

[ii11ii]

Originally Posted by naan1974

You may never be able to
have a normal heathly relationship given you have experience how cheap sex is with a warp perception that relationship = sex and sex = $xxx .

I mean honestly a relationship to me is a lot more than sex anyways, relationship wise I don't start anything unless I'm very serious about it because to me it means so much more to be in a relationship than just sex. Imo paying for sex is just a way of release, although unhealthy (but so is smoking).

[ii11ii]

Originally Posted by WhiteMilk

It's hard to say


If you are prepared to open the pandora's box, to enter a whole new wide world, then dive in. But if not, then stick to finding girls the traditional way

That's an interesting perspective out of all the ones saying not to go (which I fully understand and is something I've thought about as well). Frankly aside from that one relationship which ended already I don't think I can get anywhere with girls (probably cos I'm ugly) so anything with the opposite gender just ends up as pure friendship. One thing I'm sure of those is that going to clubs and getting some action which is what many younger fellas do doesn't work at all for me nor am I able to find or have the effort to put in for another relationship at the moment.

I just saw this as a way to release my urges of young raging hormones and get better at it too because the first time unsurprisingly didn't feel or go that well.

If I ever end up going it'll definitely be with plenty of safety precautions too, fully capped and no other funky things because I don't want to risk ruining my own future for a moment of shiok.

Then again out of curiousity did chionging also made you feel less awkward around women because back when I was under 20 and clubbed a few times when brought by friends, the random dancing and body contact made me a lot less awkward around them in (although never had successes of getting anything outside of dancing/hugging because they can't see that I'm ugly in the dark) as I felt like there's less of a barrier

[ii11ii]

Originally Posted by Darge

Listen to us, don’t start. You are very young go find a decent GF. In GL if you meet a KC WL, you are dead! $$$, feelings all GONE! You will be in deep deep SHIT. Be a GOOD boy, go find a decent GF!

If I could find myself a decent GF or even any I think I wouldn't be here. Also don't know much about the whole KC WL thing but I really cant fathom myself having any connection with them further than having sex, just because I view this whole thing as I'm paying to have sex and feel good and nothing more, so like buying a pocket pussy that is actually real

[Darge]

If you can clearly define / understand your needs / urges, you will less likely kena KC by WL. Do not underestimate WL KC power, once you are hooked by WL KC….GOOD LUCK 🍀

[Mr1Hr]

It's pretty safe if you don't try to do anything crazy and silly without preparation. You'll spend SGD 200 most of the time for PRC girls, which is quite expensive. So, you'll have to read reviews before heading to them. The best treatment part for me is the foreplay. It will be done before the girls recognize your skills unless you keep returning or doing something to make them remember you badly. Otherwise, there would be a tiny chance they will mistreat you.