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03-10-2012, 09:40 AM
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Struggling to live in European paradise
================================================== ======= We arrive at a big restaurant in central London. The owner is British-Vietnamese, a person who wishes to remain unnamed, and confesses that he has spent roughly 30 years there developing the business. He employs 20 people, most of whom are from Asia. Half of the restaurant staff is Vietnamese. They have immigrated to England in many ways, both legal and illegal. But they have the same purpose: to seek an opportunity to transform their lives. Besides the restaurant’s owner, it is not difficult for us to meet Vietnamese people who have become wealthy through their honest work. Couple Trần Văn Sử and Lê Thị Mỹ Lệ are among this group. Su said he came to the country without a cent in his pocket in 1980. He and his wife now operate four restaurants serving Vietnamese food in London. Their restaurants are always crowded with customers. Su said that most Vietnamese here work hard, but some wish to make a great fortune in a short period of time, so they decide to participate in illegal jobs. Deadly job Cultivating hashish trees is one of the popular illegal jobs that bring huge profits that several Vietnamese have chosen to pursue. They do it in spite of the fact that they are breaking the law, and ignore the danger involved. They call the crop the ‘money tree’ because it can bring in huge amounts of cash. A young man who goes by the name Tinh confessed that poverty drove him to planting hashish trees. He earns GBP300,000 to GBP500,000 (US$470,625 – 784,375) after harvesting 100 square meters of hashish. It takes around three to six months to cultivate the trees. Although they earn a lot of money, these growers are often abused and exploited by local residents. Local people don’t plant the trees directly, instead they hire illegally immigrated Vietnamese to do the job for them. When local authorities discover what is going on, the immigrants have to take all responsibility. “If we are discovered, we are sent back to Vietnam immediately,” Tinh said. Thing are simple when they have to face the police. However, Tính uncovered his back and showed countless scars on it. He said this is the result of several clashes with local gangs who tried to rob his products after the crops were harvested. When it comes time to harvest, people who have information on the schedule wait for the process to be completed and then steal the products. The robbers include both gangs and local residents who hire the Vietnamese immigrants to take care of the farm because they don’t want to pay wages as negotiated. “In order to put the money into our pocket, we must pay a very expensive price. It’s our lives,” said Tinh, who has been jailed for five years for doing the job. Fortunately, he was not sent back to Vietnam because he came to England under a family reunion form. However, he has yet to obtain British citizenship, though he has decided to stop working with hashish. Few people are brave enough to quit like Tinh though, because profits from the trees are large. A Hai Phong native called Long said that he was arrested twice for planting hashish trees and was sent back to Vietnam, but he tried to return illegally. Long explained that he had to pursue the illicity work because he faces a big debt back home. “I tried perform one successful ‘mission’ to get the money needed to pay off all of my debt. I should not have borrowed money for planting hashish trees here. Now I have no way to leave the job,” he said while trying to turn away to hide his tears. Illegal immigration Nam, of Nghe An Province, came to England illegally by way of the Czech Republic and France. “My family lives under the poverty line in Vietnam. I have to feed four children but the crops there always failed. I decided to borrow VND150 million (US$7,200) to go to the Czech Republic to work.” “After four years of working in the country, friends told me to immigrate to England by travelling to France. Thinking of my wife and children in Vietnam, I decided to undertake the risky trip. I had to pay the smuggling ring 2,500 euros (US$3,072), and they agreed to bring me to England,” Nam recalled. Last autumn, Nam went to France. He was asked to throw away all of his personal papers so that British police could not trace his origin. If the police could not find out where he was from, they would hold him a few hours and then release him. His first mission failed. He was discovered by police dogs as he was hiding in the van that would bring him from France to England. He endured three similar failures before he finally had the opportunity to step onto England soil on his fourth trip. “I will never forget this trip for the rest of my life. Lying in a van, I hid in a plastic bag so that scanners at the border checkpoint wouldn’t discover me. Fortunately, police dogs were also unable to find me in the van,” Nam recalled. We followed Nam to his “house” in London, which is nothing more than a ten-square-meter room. He showed us a picture of his wife and children on his bed, saying “I look at the picture before going to bed every night. The picture is my only motive for me to overcome difficulty here. I can suffer everything as long as my wife and children live a happy life,” Nam said. He works from eight to ten hours a day, and every month, Nam sends home GBP1,500 (US$2,353). “This is a lot of money, and it helps my wife and children live happily. Even in a dream, I cannot see that amount of money in Vietnam.” In the restaurant where he works, there are two other Vietnamese workers. They also came to London illegally. Life without a future Of course, not everyone has good luck like Nam. Several people have successfully passed the border check point, only to be arrested when they traveled further into England. They are not likely to be sent back to Vietnam, and they can go out and work, but they are unable to obtain any personal papers, even if they have lived in the country for ten years. Every few weeks they have to visit a police station to report that they are working a legal job in the country.
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03-10-2012, 01:44 PM
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New type of call girls in Saigon
============================================== VietNamNet Bridge - PR (Public Relations) is the polite way to call prostitutes who are not controlled by pimps. These girls “independently operate” at pubs and restaurants. Their heyday is not over the age of 25. Playboys who have status in society usually chose normal restaurants and pubs and ask managers of these places to call "PR girls" for them. Therefore, many managers of restaurants and pubs in HCM City have close ties with many "PR" girls. In a room in a restaurant located on Cao Thang Road (District 3), some guests had barely sat down in the chair, when the manager asked: "Do you need ‘PR’?" A few minutes later, four girls dressed in scanty clothes stepped into the room and made pairs with guest themselves. They poured beer into glasses, picked up food to customers as they loved each other in the previous life. After the party ended, PR girls got VND1 million ($50) from customers and they did not forget to give VND100,000 ($5) to the manager as "kickback." Besides mobile "PR" girls, some popular pubs in HCM City have on-the-spot PR girls who are young and beautiful. However, these girls are not allowed to sit with their customers. So many playboys call this service "standing beer." The main task of these girls is embracing, pouring beer, chatting and pulling white hairs for customers. Particularly in a restaurant on Dien Bien Phu Road, some PR girls can sing cai luong very well so their "tips" are high. At this restaurant, if customers give tip of VND200,000 ($10), PR girls will leave and mutter "Cloddish!." Most of the PR girls are young and beautiful and they come from the southwest. When they just arrive in Saigon, they usually work as waitresses at restaurants and then join the group of "PR" girls. After a time working as PR girls, they have scooters, iPhone, nice clothing, and money. Every morning, in beautiful clothes, they sit in coffee shops or go shopping to wait for customer’s calls. Previously, playboys often chose rural girls or rural students who are good-looking to be their "mistress." But now it is outdated. Womanizers do not want to entangle annoying affairs but “eating and paying” form. Being aware of that fact, "PR" girls do not dream of being covered by rich men, but try to earn as much tip as they can in each party or each time they go out with whore-monsters. They often associate as groups to support one another. A policeman said when they meet rich men, they will introduce each other to earn money from him. Certainly, other girls will have to pay commission to the one who introduce the customer to them. These teams are popular everywhere from pubs to upscale restaurants. According to many restaurant owners, without PR girls, their restaurants will be "dead" soon. Thuy, 21, from Dong Thap province, a "PR" girl at restaurants and pubs in Thu Duc district, customers pay tip of at least VND200,000 ($10). PR girls can earn least VND10 million ($500)/ month, not including earning from prostitution. With such high income, but only a few days having no customers, many girls do not have money for breakfast. In fact, to get money to buy scooters, expensive cell phones and nice clothes, most "PR" girls in Thu Duc district have to borrow from usurers. If they borrow VND 30 million ($1,500), they have to pay interest money of VND 200,000 ($10) per day. In addition to paying interest money, PR girls have to send VND3-5 million to their families, pay motel rent, purchase clothes and cosmetics, gambling and patronizing their boyfriends. Though they are prostitutes, most of "PR" girls have boyfriends, who are drug addicts, gamblers or gangsters. These men are their support in the world full of violence, deception, cunning. "Many girls have boyfriends who are drug addicts are brutally beaten if they do not give money to their boyfriends but they have to stand it. They cannot break up with these men," a PR girl said. For PR girls, 25 years old is too old. From earning nearly VND20 million a month, they suddenly become empty-handed while the debt is still there. Therefore, the road for almost PR girls is becoming real prostitutes and then pimps. Consequently, some go to jail, some are destroyed by the ravages of drugs, and some are infected with HIV. ANTG
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03-10-2012, 04:10 PM
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Recieved a sms from JBS... (wtf is that)...
Learn Vietnamese with JBS International College 970 Geylang road; Tristar Complex Intake: October 13th, weekend class 2:30pm - 5:30pm ** every Saturday Details please call --> 64780456 I like the location... after theory straight go practical 
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03-10-2012, 04:51 PM
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qualification of the teachers? Please advise ....
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03-10-2012, 05:47 PM
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call to ask lor i only know jc course fee and teachers qualification
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03-10-2012, 11:03 PM
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hey guys..i know senior bros have advised to fk and forget this chick...but it's so dang difficult!
We've kept texting but it's gone down from 5-6 a day to 1-2 a day. Can you please help me with this? A few days ago she wrote: "Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so". I didn't really understand so I just said I didn't understand and asked her when she'd go back to Vietnam for sure. A day after that, she wrote: "Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum". What does this mean exactly? Google tells me she lost her vietnamese SIM and would sms me after she buys a new one. I replied to that but she didn't reply. She usually replies instantly or a few hours later (prob working) but left it for two days and still no reply. I gave her a call today and her singaporean number has been disconnected! What could this mean? Caught by the police? Could she be in some sort of trouble? I've checked her prepaid balance and there's still credit (surprised it even showed me even though it's not in service), so I do have my concerns about her.
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04-10-2012, 12:22 AM
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04-10-2012, 04:51 AM
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This is what I understand: "Toi du doan la nguoi trong phong lay, nhung toi ko biet ai, bao canh sat se nhieu rat roi den chu nha. ve may bay toi chua mua. Toi rat buon, vi o vietnam me toi dang trong toi ve, de co tien phu giup me, nhung toi da ko thuc hien duoc. toi ko dam bao cho me toi biet. toi ko muon me toi kho so". I don't know anyone, the police hosts many raids (?!?!) I have not bought airline tickets. I'm very sad because I promised to help my mother which I have not done so I'm not sure what I will do when I return. "Toi dang ve vietnam. ba ngoai toi mat roi, nen toi phai ve gap. sim dien thoai vietnam, toi da lam mat. khi nao ve vietnam, toi se mua sim khac, roi sms qua cho ban biet, se giu lien lac voi ban. neu doc sms ko hieu, ban co the nho dong nghiep thong dich dum". I (dang?!?!) ve (ticket) vietnam (she bought tickets to vietnam??). My grandmother is in risk. (She died??) I lost my Vietnamese Sim card. In vietnam, I will buy another sim, to sms you and will keep in touch with you. If you don't understand this SMS, you can ask a friend to translate. Not sure how different my understanding is to what she really said, so hope you bros can help Quote:
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04-10-2012, 10:05 AM
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Foreign investors, Vietnamese millionaires rush to farm salanganes
================================================== ========================= VietNamNet Bridge – Salangane nests, considered the nutritious food for the rich, have been enriching their owners. This has prompted others to rush to farm salanganes to become rich. Salanganes attract everybody In Tam Thon Hiep commune of Can Gio district in HCM City, there are a lot of houses of salanganes, which local residents call “Ba’s house” or “Chin’s house.” In fact, these are not the real names of the owners of the houses. These are just the names used by local residents, who cannot remember the foreign names of the foreign owners. The residents in the salanganes’ village surprisingly do not have deep knowledge about salangane farming. “A house for salanganes costs one billion dong or more. How can we arrange so much money to invest in salangane farming?” Dang Thanh Tinh, a resident in An Hoa Hamlet of Tam Thon Hiep commune explained. One of the most well-known salangane farms here is the one of a Malaysian person. In the commune alone, the man possesses four houses for salanganes which has begun providing products, earning one billion dong a month, and another one which is still under the construction. In Can Gio district alone, 35,000 square meters of land have been reserved for breeding salanganes. A house for salanganes (5x20m, three floors) would cost over one billion dong, which is paid for the land, construction and technique. This sum of money is really out of reach of the local people who have medium or low income. This explains why most of the owners of the salangane farms are foreigners or the big Vietnamese investors from HCM City. “Ten years ago, when the Malaysian person built the first house for salanganes in the Tam Thon Hiep commune, people were very curious about the function of the house,” Tam Gam, one of the few local salangane farmers, recalled. “Some years later, when he collected many kilos of salangane nests, did people realize what the man intended to do. Then some people have followed him to breed salanganes,” she said. The gift from the God The stories about the farmers who earn billions of dong a year from salangane nests have prompted investors to flock to Can Gio to build houses to “invite” salanganes to live here. However, not everyone can reap fruits from their investments. Local residents say salangane nests are the “gifts from the God” which are not delivered equally to everyone. Thanh, a local resident, said he built a house for salangane four years ago, but he still cannot take back the investment capital. Thanh said he spent money on “modern technologies and machines,” installing air conditioners, dew spraying machine, speakerphone system, odor generating machine to lure birds. However, the number of birds making their nests in Thanh’s house remains lower than he expects. “At first, I received the technical assistance from a Malaysian engineer, who reassured me that I would harvest five kilos of nests a month after eight months of investment. The investment cost was 350 dollars per square meter,” Thanh said. However, the number of birds making nests in the house was much lower than expected. Therefore, Thanh has decided to restart again with new techniques. Tam Gam said that every household has its “know how” in farming salanganes. However, she said that the God will decide who will succeed with the farming. A lot of investors apply modern technologies and make heavy investments, but they cannot entice the birds. Lao Dong
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I no understand majority of the SMS too. But "toi dang ve Vietnam" I though is mean "I on the way go back Vietnam"? If I am right, then it make sense that her phone line can't get through.
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04-10-2012, 11:11 AM
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better call your personal no.... to learn better TV
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Theo toi du doan la em ay thich tien nhieu hon thich a mcdonald. I predict she likes money more than she likes u.
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