The New HC Business Proposal

[Zack Tan]

[QUOTE=BTech]

Originally Posted by Zack Tan

Bro. BTech,
Thank you. Yes, you are right about alcohol being not permitted in the HC premises but it can be house in the same building. That's why maybe a coffee kum music bar would be more appropriate.



Then in this case, there is not just one business proposition but indeed 2 or 3 business proposition eh ? Cos the coffee and wine place is completely seen as a seperate entity...

As for my HC business plan... we had to drop the idea cos when it comes to licensing.... none of us wnats to be listed as ower of the HC... at best.. we just wanted to be sleeping partners.... and we cant have a business with no listed owers and all sleeping partners

Reason is simple... HC is not a glam business... you cant tell your relatives and frends ... "eh.. I open HC, come and visit us'..... imagine telling that to your brother in-law... fater-in-law etc.... versus just opening a food business whereby we are not "shy" to ask any tom dick and harry to patronize us... which is the route we have taken since scrapping of HC business plan.

Hi,
Bro. BTech, I understand your sentiments. Yes, the coffee/wine bar is a business within a business which serve to widen the clientel base. Anyway, thanks for the info.
Bro. Ahgong, If I read your lips correctly, you are suggesting an exclusive club that serve as a "playgroung" to the rich and famous incorporating parties on private and luxurious yatch. The club could then be a front to give the hc/spa legitimacy...hm..very daring and bold leh.
Cheers,

[AHGONG]

Bro. Ahgong, If I read your lips correctly, you are suggesting an exclusive club that serve as a "playgroung" to the rich and famous incorporating parties on private and luxurious yatch. The club could then be a front to give the hc/spa legitimacy...hm..very daring and bold leh.
Cheers,[/QUOTE]

Yup u can say is daring and bold and if u choose to play in this league u must be prepare to take the heat too...these rich player r not easy to serve but if they r happy....$$$ is nvr a issue to them...so far this is the only solution I can tink of for u to earn $$$ legally and yet getting the Sextisfaction...too bad we in SGP...if not i can draft out the entire entertianment empire for u hahaha.....

[LeeYokeYuen]

[QUOTE=BTech]

Originally Posted by Zack Tan

Bro. BTech,
Thank you. Yes, you are right about alcohol being not permitted in the HC premises but it can be house in the same building. That's why maybe a coffee kum music bar would be more appropriate.



Then in this case, there is not just one business proposition but indeed 2 or 3 business proposition eh ? Cos the coffee and wine place is completely seen as a seperate entity...

As for my HC business plan... we had to drop the idea cos when it comes to licensing.... none of us wnats to be listed as ower of the HC... at best.. we just wanted to be sleeping partners.... and we cant have a business with no listed owers and all sleeping partners

Reason is simple... HC is not a glam business... you cant tell your relatives and frends ... "eh.. I open HC, come and visit us'..... imagine telling that to your brother in-law... fater-in-law etc.... versus just opening a food business whereby we are not "shy" to ask any tom dick and harry to patronize us... which is the route we have taken since scrapping of HC business plan.

Idea is still good... maybe should just think of how to make it glam.

[Zack Tan]

Originally Posted by AHGONG

Bro. Ahgong, If I read your lips correctly, you are suggesting an exclusive club that serve as a "playgroung" to the rich and famous incorporating parties on private and luxurious yatch. The club could then be a front to give the hc/spa legitimacy...hm..very daring and bold leh.
Cheers,

Yup u can say is daring and bold and if u choose to play in this league u must be prepare to take the heat too...these rich player r not easy to serve but if they r happy....$$$ is nvr a issue to them...so far this is the only solution I can tink of for u to earn $$$ legally and yet getting the Sextisfaction...too bad we in SGP...if not i can draft out the entire entertianment empire for u hahaha.....[/QUOTE]
Bro. Ahgong,
Like that premier league liao...unfortunately squeaky clean S'pore cannot have entertainment complex same as in Taiwan, Korea and China...sigh. But I like your ideal and perhaps have a spa/hc within the club house...hm. Maybe can also solve the not so "glam" appeal of a hc.
Cheers,

[Zack Tan]

Originally Posted by LeeYokeYuen

Idea is still good... maybe should just think of how to make it glam.

Bro. LeeYokeYuen,
Unfortunately hc here are always consider as sleazy joints and its connotation associated with sex. Whilst hc/spa are legitimate businesses that offer life-style services, they cannot get away from the connotation. You can always try to "dress" these up but the reality is that they are associated with WL. So to put your name down as a hc/spa owner will not go down too well with your family, friends, and associates. In another word, it suffers from an image problem. Any spin doctors out there can help?
Cheers,

[AHGONG]

Bro. Ahgong,
Like that premier league liao...unfortunately squeaky clean S'pore cannot have entertainment complex same as in Taiwan, Korea and China...sigh. But I like your ideal and perhaps have a spa/hc within the club house...hm. Maybe can also solve the not so "glam" appeal of a hc.
Cheers,[/QUOTE]

hahaha call me ambitous...but if u want to go into the normal HC, TN biz...then u can forget abt it...becos i tink the risk is not worth taking and also u dont have the actual know how and resources to do it(no offence)...but if u r moving into the PL...then u have USP than the others and u stand to gain more out of it also...

Actually u no need a club house...u can still have a spa/HC setting but this spa/HC provide a bit of nichie svc to its members....better not say too much...if not tis idea taken by some HC boss here then no more nichie for u liao...hehehe...

jus my 2 cents

[banana]

Originally Posted by enzer88

bro,u said getting captial and investor is the least of the problem.....u sure u in business now or hav u ever been in the business b4???
The hardest is the captial and investor......y should they believe in ur business proposal and dump a few 100k in it????

in business, the easiest is to ask for capital. the difficult part is how do i fulfill the business proposal.

so have u been in business for long or u just learn to start doing your own business.

[banana]

Originally Posted by kilrein

... So my stand remains that the GREATEST amount of effort should be spent formulating a WORKABLE business proposal and putting together an attractive management team. Nothing else matters more than these.

well said! this is where u should concentrate writing a business proposal.

[banana]

Originally Posted by smartalex

1. Yes I agree that those MP cum KTV will not happen in Singapore. At least not until PAP finds that the profits from our future casino is still insufficient for their expenses.

2. As for buying in an existing hc/spa business, do remember that if the outlet is very profitable, it is unlikely the owner will want to share his business with u. So most likely u r looking at taking over (100%) a less profitable joint and taking things from there.

3. The best general manager is yourself - to keep costs down. But since u got other business to run, then it becomes important. But then u must realize that the general manager will also ask himself - why not I run it myself if the income is good? So that can be quite tricky too. The connection to authorities thing is something I am not sure of, because there r people making profits from this line even without any connections. The key is to make customers happy and not to offend them. Otherwise they can easily cause u much trouble.

4. Lastly, I want to gently remind u that even in Singapore, there r hooligans who go around capitalizing on the vice biz by demanding protection money. So better be prepared to answer their calls.

points to ponder.

[banana]

Originally Posted by smartalex

1. Question to ask is: What is the key aspect that retains these girls. Answer: Most of the time - $$$. Besides their own ability to retain customers, the ability of the management to generate new business for them will be key in their decision on whether to stay or leave. Most of these girls simply want to make as much money in the shortest span of time. If the management cannot help them to achieve that, it is only natural that they will want to go to a more popular joint. And actually, that creates a vicious cycle. Popular joints will become more popular and vice versa.

2. The fact is that - the more popular the place, the faster police comes. My experience tells me its best to milk the cash-cow slowly and to keep a low profile. We want profits at the end of the day, and we do not want to be disturbed by police. Similarly, the police got enough work to do, so make their jobs easier but not making too much noise and attracting too much attention.

more points to ponder.

[banana]

Originally Posted by Zack Tan

Bro. Spa. Prince, You cannot be serious with your ideas lah....if you are you should just spend your $$ bonking in GL...no need to spend a fortune to start a hc/spa business to bonk the gals....it make more sense right? Dun't mind me saying but you are not cut up for running businesses and it is safer for you to leave your $$ in the banks or if you are feeling generous, just donate your $$ to the tidal wave fund which you can get at least a mention in the newspaper rather than lossing it for nothing!

bro spa prince, u should listen to Zack Tan, donate your money to the tidal wave fund.

[enzer88]

Is applying working permit for hc gers easy???becos if authority very strict in giving out permit then no point to continue discussing........

[Mister911targa]

Originally Posted by enzer88

Is applying working permit for hc gers easy???becos if authority very strict in giving out permit then no point to continue discussing........

Bro enzer88, its on line now 4 application at www.spf.gov.sg/licence, 5 working days to process applications. I think restricted only to Malaysians n Thais.
Latest I heard, dunno how true;Gals licence r Non transferable, meaning with the 'white card' appllied under d respective HC,when gals move on to other HCs, licence would not be applicable hence a reapplication.If its true, on d positive side, it helps 2 retain ang pais.
Mister911targa

[GoGoGo]

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[banana]

Originally Posted by GoGoGo

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wah so good offer! why dont keep it for ur self?