Price Difference for Girls, Are we Paying PREMIUM to GIRL or OKT???

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by famous.c

Does it really matters you..? You are paying for the service, not paying to know where the money goes.

It does not matter actually.
but this particular OKT tells us he pays more to procure girl here. When as a matter of fact it isn't the fact.

So let me ask you 1 question back. Is this OKT lying to us or not?
If from such a simple issue, he can also lie to us, it just shows he can lie his way through other things. Even his FRs. In this forum, $that paltry $10-$30 can buy a samster's integrity.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by yinyang

Seige mentality ah? Oldest profession with suppply chain in diff forms la. Will outlive your thread, despite your lonely and futile crusade Unlax bro, why get so worked up, now that you got it out of your system.. go get a rewarding bonk at your fave okt

Once errant OKTs is eradicated, this thread will die. However one errant eradicated, another will come up. so we shall see whether their life longer or my life longer.

Be careful in not threading to the dark side. You have written quite a few FRs, some are not as what you said. The reason of one man's meat is another's poison is a simple way of telling people what I get depends on chemistry. it only holds some truth to a certain extent. but the real life description really differs far too much in some cases where integrity has to be doubted.
However there are culprits far worst than you where they eat chicken rice don't know how to wipe their oily mouth. I am not accusing you of anything, just telling people to be mindful as the dark and white side is just a thin line in between

[famous.c]

Lying or not... Is we chose to pay for the service.. So its not up to us how the money is being shared.

Btw can you tell mi wat are you trying to get through this..? your money back. or just someone who agrees with you..?

[justl00king]

Just add my 0.02 cents.

For me personally, it's not so much the price but the quality. Like they say, willing seller willing buyer. If the stock is premium, then deserve a higher price and I dun give a shit to who gets what cut. It's between the gal and the agent to work it out.

What I am rather disappointed is when the so called premium stock which is commanding a higher price, see pic very chio but real life "cannot". I have tried certain such PREMIUM thai WL which is in excess of $200 and above, but the quality still leaves much to be desired.

I know the one meats another poison theory.Maybe my expectations may have gone up, but a certain standard in terms of looks/body/service should still be there. To be frank, certain gals which I had patronised even if given at lower price or even FREE I also would not have accepted.

Maybe it's only me, or my expectations may be too high.Certain gals which I have booked when see pic was ok.But when met real life, sian half. So I only had my shower there, still paid the gal full rate and left with zero action. Some others I just did one shot and skipped the second shot.So after multiple setbacks, really getting tired of this.

No offence to anyone who disagree, only my personal view.

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by justl00king

What I am rather disappointed is when the so called premium stock which is commanding a higher price, see pic very chio but real life "cannot". I have tried certain such PREMIUM thai WL which is in excess of $200 and above, but the quality still leaves much to be desired.

I know the one meats another poison theory.Maybe my expectations may have gone up, but a certain standard in terms of looks/body/service should still be there. To be frank, certain gals which I had patronised even if given at lower price or even FREE I also would not have accepted.

Has it ever occur to you that those who sell premium stock, they do not even have money to buy a decent digital camera to take live pictures? Not even asking them to buy a digital SLR, but a $400 digital camera with at least 5 megapixels they also no money to buy.

Want customer pay premium, when customer request for live pictures, they really hide like a tortoise. It's not the 1st time someone like you ask for live pictures, do you agree? happens for years already and don't tell me these OKTs take more than years to save up that $400?

Or this particular OKT can set up a plea to the public and use this reason. He wants to sell premium so that he can have more cut to buy a digital camera. I am sure full house.

That is why I don't know why these OKTs ask the girl go ladpao and ask them pay 1000bht to take studio pictures if they can just get the girl come singapore and the girl pay them $40 to take pictures from their digital camera. 10 girls come, digital cam recoup. Or is it because pay 1000bht inclusive of photoshop effects?

[Midnightiger]

Originally Posted by raoulvii

You still don't get it too, do you?

What I have been saying here is this OKT tells everyone he charges more because he has to pay the girl more, which is not the case as said by the girl.
So in this case, he charges more because the money goes to his pocket rather than telling us a blatant lie that he pays more so that the girl will be procured over here.

Do you want me to quote his message here for all to see?

Also, you as an OKT yourself, you want to step up in defence for this kind of liar OKT? Don't come and tell us you are not, because after this computer screen that you face, you cannot deny that in real life you are one. Maybe the people in forum will believe you are not. But in real life you are.

Wow! Now where did that come from? And you expect to be taken seriously when you just shoot out false accusations from your mouth?

By the way, I don't think OKTs go round telling everyone on the technicalities of their biz. They didn't tell me anyway. I suppose they didn't tell me cos I'm not one of those who got nothing better to do that to go round asking the OKTs.

Has it ever occur to you that those who sell premium stock, they do not even have money to buy a decent digital camera to take live pictures? Not even asking them to buy a digital SLR, but a $400 digital camera with at least 5 megapixels they also no money to buy.

You're so sure that the OKTs don't have money to buy a decent digital camera? OR because they don't want to buy?

There you go shooting from your mouth again proving that you cannot be taken seriously as you have a hidden agenda, whatever it is. Anyway, whatever is your agenda, just keep it to yourself. I don't think I or bros here wants to know.

In this forum, $that paltry $10-$30 can buy a samster's integrity.

Wow! So only those who agree with you have integrity, right?

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by Midnightiger

Wow! Now where did that come from? And you expect to be taken seriously when you just shoot out false accusations from your mouth?

You're so sure that the OKTs don't have money to buy a decent digital camera? OR because they don't want to buy?

There you go shooting from your mouth again proving that you cannot be taken seriously as you have a hidden agenda, whatever it is. Anyway, whatever is your agenda, just keep it to yourself. I don't think I or bros here wants to know.

Wow! So only those who agree with you have integrity, right?

I didn't accuse you of any misdoings. I am only stating the truth that you are an OKT. You can do your girls, up to you. But you do not belong to this category of errant OKT yet.

You asking me whether OKT have money to buy digital camera? I think they are very poor. If have money and they don't want buy? Then they must not been listening to what consumers here want. If become OKT cannot even afford to buy a digital camera, I wonder why don't become a toilet cleaner because a toilet cleaner's pay definitely can buy a digital cam. Got 1 tell me he no choice. I want to recommend him be toilet cleaner. Definitely after 1 month he can buy digital cam.

Whether what I say here go what kind of agenda, I already stated from first post. Everything I said here is the truth. If there are people here who believe you are not an OKT, you can try hoodwink them further. Tiger.

[Phayao]

Originally Posted by raoulvii

I didn't accuse you of any misdoings. I am only stating the truth that you are an OKT. You can do your girls, up to you. But you do not belong to this category of errant OKT yet.

Who are these errant OKTs that you keep mentioning?

[Soul_Reaper]

Wats the problem?
Price not gum dun call lor.
Is it your business whether the WL gets $10 or $180?
You should just pay...fuck..and GO!

Btw, list price at $130 or $180 does not mean we pay $130 or $180.
Many times regular bros have been given special rates by the OKTs..... it helps by having good rapport with them.
Fyi, I have ever bonk $170 for only $99 becoz of good kumcheng with the okt.

Hey guys..

First post here... but if you feel angry that OKT is not being fair to the gals, then I recommend the following.

Whatever the damage is (say $150 for one particular gal), add $30 on top of it and give that as tips to the deserving lady.

Be nice to her, and treat her well, maybe bring chocolates and make her trip to a foreign land better. We are not going to be able to change the OKT system or their business model, everyone wants to make money. But if you think the gals need help, then give them more tips and it will go directly to her. (I always do, and we Americans are famous for that)

Now, this is a harder solution for most of us, isn't it? When it's our turn to spend more money and "earn" less, and effort to be nice? This is all about money after all, and I don't blame either the OKT or the girls for trying to maximize their business. I usually root for the ladies, and I leave a bigger tip, and I recommend you all do it too.

[trax]

Originally Posted by raoulvii

So is that to say you guys are arguing for the sake of this OKT because you are using the junior head to think? Anyway eat chicken rice, get discounted chicken rice, good just say good. no good just say no good. No good want to tell us is good. Don't forget to wipe oily mouth.

Don't be like this lexus3rx. Tell everybody he would not eat $150 chicken from OKT no matter how. In the end, post 1 fr for $170 chicken from this OKT and tell us how good how good.

As usual, secret society gang members from this OKT is still trying to zap me off from telling the truth. At least I do get some consolation here that no one is saying I am telling the false. I do wonder why tell the truth gets hit while so many support the fake. All because scared no chicken rice to eat or all along got discounted chicken rice?

Personally, i felt you failed to understand my and some of the others point as well. Lets try to see from each other's POV. This IS a good discussion. Lets make it a healthy one and and not resort to personal attacks.

You are/may be right to say the OKT tells lies about having to pay more to bring certain girls in. I'm not one, so i dont know. But seriously, even if this OKT is telling lies to his customers, what matters to him at the end of the day is he gets food on his table to feed his family. Businessmen do whatever they need (both morally right or wrong) to achieve their objectives, whatever they may be. Agree?

While your bringing this issue to light is a benefit to the ignorant ones out here, the world still revolves around market forces. And i say again, tell me, which businesses are run without lies and deceptions? If you are working for someone in a company, do you think 100% of whatever goes on in that company is for real? Take even governments as case studies... Are they telling the truth 100% of the time? Come on... We are all grown ups here. Who admits to their wives they frequent sammyboy forum?

So my point is, though we know we are sometimes being "lied" to by a particular brand/busniessmen/government, we still have the freedom to buy or move on to the next company/merchant/country. We only have ourselves to blame when we continue making second best choices. Simpler terms. OKT lie to us, we come here kpkb, maybe even involve the authorities, the OKT disappers, new ones appear, new OKTs come up with same business tactics and maybe even some new ones, samsters still patronize them.

Rest my case. Cheers.

[fontirak]

Ok we get the point that this OKT is lying to you. So is this wrong?
Everybody lies to get what they want, at least for me. The OKT knows that someone will be like you, who bitches about all the money he gets so he just lied to you. If you wants someone who is not lying, go to the church, not sammyboy forum. Governments increases their pay by insane amounts saying they need to retain their talent but how much of this is true? Bottom line is now we know the OKT(whoever it is) lies, but as i said, so do all of us. Only god don't.

[gl_bob]

Originally Posted by raoulvii

My argument is on the part when OKT tells us they need to pay premium to bring the girl to SG. When you ask the girl how much she gets, the cut she gets is no different from other normal girls brought in. Premium???

I initially thought hotel room rates will be a difference. But if you followed my example of Girl A, B, C, D, the hotels that they are staying in, the room rates are more or less the same. So where the premium goes? Condoms made of GOLD, or Abalone for them 3 meals a day?

As for the pretty girl n not so pretty girl argument. If the girl not pretty, the OKT bring in SG for fuck? Girl not pretty still bring to SG to waste her time, or let her take some heavily photoshopped studio pictures to CON us to book us and waste money?

Talk about lies. 38yrs old girl market and put as 25 years old. Is the OKT ignorant to put the truth or are we ignorant of the truth?

What about my argument on the part where one OKT's cut is even much more than the girl? Never open leg still earn more each session than the girl. Wah the girl must be super kum lan to believe him.

Mr.raoulvii

I am EX OKT, i know how the systems work.. let me explain it to you...

1 OKT gets a girl from a "mamasan" from thailand would normally cost $800 - $1200 depending on how "Swee" the girl is.

When girl arrives in singapore they normally will do "Tag" for OKT which is normally 80 to 100 "Tag"

OKT = Get customer for girls and earn their commision
OKT' Boss = Pay for girl arrival money , pay mamasan money , earn the Tag money.
Girl = Wait until finish Tag then she can take $20 per session

Not say the OKT always earn alot. cause i am not those OKT working in the fishtanks but i am in fact a "illegal" OKT..

Boss - Pay hotel money daily , Pay "Water" money to Agent , Pay "Water" money to turf people , Makan money for girls , Pay for OKT

OKT - Pull customer


Dont always think that OKT earn ALOT... so much money must pay.. must pay here pay there.. then if today business bad leh, how ? hotel room money still must pay... "Gu-li-kang" also must huat for OKTs.. makan money also must give girls... "water" money leh ?

[astrozz]

Bro raolvii, this is going nowhere dont you agree ? Lets put an end to it wat say you ?
It seems to me that you were 'cheated' by some OKTs thus you want to 'highlight' to bros here ....apparently not everyone agrees with what you said and I seriously dont see a point in this arguement.
Lets drop this matter and move on shall we ?
cheers

[raoulvii]

Originally Posted by gl_bob

Mr.raoulvii

I am EX OKT, i know how the systems work.. let me explain it to you...

1 OKT gets a girl from a "mamasan" from thailand would normally cost $800 - $1200 depending on how "Swee" the girl is.

When girl arrives in singapore they normally will do "Tag" for OKT which is normally 80 to 100 "Tag"

OKT = Get customer for girls and earn their commision
OKT' Boss = Pay for girl arrival money , pay mamasan money , earn the Tag money.
Girl = Wait until finish Tag then she can take $20 per session

Not say the OKT always earn alot. cause i am not those OKT working in the fishtanks but i am in fact a "illegal" OKT..

Boss - Pay hotel money daily , Pay "Water" money to Agent , Pay "Water" money to turf people , Makan money for girls , Pay for OKT

OKT - Pull customer


Dont always think that OKT earn ALOT... so much money must pay.. must pay here pay there.. then if today business bad leh, how ? hotel room money still must pay... "Gu-li-kang" also must huat for OKTs.. makan money also must give girls... "water" money leh ?

I am not thinking that OKT earn ALOT. But would you want me to break down their sums for you 1 by 1. When I post out these breakdowns, then you tell me whether these Hotel Online OKTs earn ALOT or not.

As a matter of fact, though you are an EX-OKT, you can tell us their expenses of chai TAG. But your illegal backlane girls system work very different from these OKTs who operate from hotels. I recommend you if you are doing back lane girls, tell your girls wear more swee, take studio pictures, you can start market them at $120 up. You really think $150up girls are super swee quality? A lot of them last them also standing at geylang backlane.

I already said before umpteen times. These OKTs want to earn money, be more upfront. Don't come tell us cock and bull story wanting us to bite the bait and then line their pockets.