PRC asking you to 买房 in China

[ArtWolf]

I had been in a relationship with a PRC for 4 years. Know her at KTV joints. She told me she failed in business and she was in debt and you can see all her history in wechat. I kena KC and support her financially. She was in and out of singapore in between. FINALLY, she manage to get a WP working in a factory in singapore for past 1 year. Lately, she started forcing me to give more money deposit and 加会 to 买房 for our "future". I am so in huge hesitation.

Any brothers has such same experience ?

[aczeta76]

What future do you want? Would you move there?

[BoLiang]

I had been in a relationship with a PRC for 4 years. Know her at KTV joints. She told me she failed in business and she was in debt and you can see all her history in wechat. I kena KC and support her financially. She was in and out of singapore in between. FINALLY, she manage to get a WP working in a factory in singapore for past 1 year. Lately, she started forcing me to give more money deposit and 加会 to 买房 for our "future". I am so in huge hesitation.

Any brothers has such same experience ?

nv let a whore control your money. if she wants a property, tell her to save up and buy 1 in SG. If you cant say no, then be prepared to be 1 of those su ckers that end up on wanbao or zaobao.

and shes in debt before, so what makes you think she knows finance or even property better than you do.

[Greendevil]

Is the PRC holding some thing against you as ransom? If yes, then you should let her know that it is an useless struggle. Also, since you can "afford" her, that mean you can destroy her. Dont worry she exposed your relationship to your family, likewise you can do so. Be a man

Also, bear in mind, even you have pay for something, if it does not have your name on it, it mean it does not belong to you. so think twice about buying whatever property or huge ticket item before you commit.

[EtherC]

Do you trust the construction quality & upkeep? Getting a house is common in Chinese culture but if she has been working in Sg surely will know that Sg property is 99 yrs vs China 70yrs. If you intend to retire in China then reasonable to consider getting one in 2nd or 3rd tier cities. First tier cities property prices are over inflated. Better to do own research & take charge than to pass her money based on trust. You trust her , she might thrust you financially. 夫妻本是同林鸟，大难来临各自飞。:D

[onglai99]

I had been in a relationship with a PRC for 4 years. Know her at KTV joints. She told me she failed in business and she was in debt and you can see all her history in wechat. I kena KC and support her financially. She was in and out of singapore in between. FINALLY, she manage to get a WP working in a factory in singapore for past 1 year. Lately, she started forcing me to give more money deposit and 加会 to 买房 for our "future". I am so in huge hesitation.

Any brothers has such same experience ?

It's not about same experience bro. What you really want? You want to be with that woman? If not why are you even supporting her financially in the first place? If you want to be with her then why you think so much?

Quick summary, you don't know for yourself what you want. Now you just want to keep that companion pussy by your side but not willing to plan for future.

So my suggestion get the F out of that relationship before you harm yourself because you are not sure of what you want. If you want to keep that side pussy, then keep your financial support to a minimal. She ask for more say you no money need to pay for stuff in SG. Then tell her she if she is true to you she should not pressure you but work together to accomplish things. In the mean time do not put money together.

[fallen11]

wow PRC gong tao!:eek:

[ArtWolf]

What future do you want? Would you move there?

Thank brother for trying to understand my intention.

I did consider to move there. I set the priority to find something to do. Can be employment. Set up small business. I understand it it never easy as a foreigner. She didn't totally disagree. But housing price is going up so fast in china. So must quickly buy. I feel she wants to get money fast.

[ArtWolf]

Is the PRC holding some thing against you as ransom? If yes, then you should let her know that it is an useless struggle. Also, since you can "afford" her, that mean you can destroy her. Dont worry she exposed your relationship to your family, likewise you can do so. Be a man

Also, bear in mind, even you have pay for something, if it does not have your name on it, it mean it does not belong to you. so think twice about buying whatever property or huge ticket item before you commit.

Thanks bro for your perspective. During arguments, women can be very means with words. Yes. Including "destroy your family". But I understand she don't mean it. So I always forgive. Be more gentlemen and try not to use words " to retaliate".

Yes. You are right. This big ticket item will not be in my name. Not easy for foreigner to own property in china. So huge sum of money given will be gone.

I still do not have the total trust.

Thanks for your remainder.

[ArtWolf]

Do you trust the construction quality & upkeep? Getting a house is common in Chinese culture but if she has been working in Sg surely will know that Sg property is 99 yrs vs China 70yrs. If you intend to retire in China then reasonable to consider getting one in 2nd or 3rd tier cities. First tier cities property prices are over inflated. Better to do own research & take charge than to pass her money based on trust. You trust her , she might thrust you financially. 夫妻本是同林鸟，大难来临各自飞。:D

Thanks bro. Totally agree with your point.
Hometown not in 1st tier city. But still 200,000k in sing dollar easily.

I am seeing that after having the house in her name, there will be also loan to undertake for years. Yah. There will be future money problem to support the loan, she probably find another man to continue the financial support.

[ArtWolf]

It's not about same experience bro. What you really want? You want to be with that woman? If not why are you even supporting her financially in the first place? If you want to be with her then why you think so much?

Quick summary, you don't know for yourself what you want. Now you just want to keep that companion pussy by your side but not willing to plan for future.

So my suggestion get the F out of that relationship before you harm yourself because you are not sure of what you want. If you want to keep that side pussy, then keep your financial support to a minimal. She ask for more say you no money need to pay for stuff in SG. Then tell her she if she is true to you she should not pressure you but work together to accomplish things. In the mean time do not put money together.

Thanks bro for your opinion. I am asking if there are brothers with same experience to understand if there are brothers that really do it.

I think I know that I want to be with her. But two person also need to plan for a affordable future. But not just rush in to commit a big ticket item. Not become a slave to the property. The slave will be me and most women will start blaming the men for not having the ability to provide.

I am already feeling the hurt. She now dress to attract attention from men when she goes work. It is a clear sign to me that if can't afford then "don't blame me for going out to find someone better".

Thanks anyway

[Xgenre]

If you have money, don't scared no woman want. 有钱不怕没人要。I lost count of the times an older person has said it to the people around me. Old wisdom but still applicable to your case.

买房 is just a 套路, a method to ask for money from you. Cannot be she ask directly for money right? So she has to give you a nice sounding reason for this big sum of money.

The PRC guys will just either walk away or max out the sex sessions till she leaves for someone else or even cheat her back. Some Singaporean guys will actually seriously consider her 套路。This I feel is a big difference between us and PRC guys.

Ever asked a PRC lady how much money she has? You will almost never get a real answer. She will say something and then overtime may reveal she has more money hidden elsewhere. They have many lobang to earn money and it may not even involve sex... this is especially true for those who had converted to Singapore citizenship.

[iluvbreast]

I had been in a relationship with a PRC for 4 years. Know her at KTV joints. She told me she failed in business and she was in debt and you can see all her history in wechat. I kena KC and support her financially. She was in and out of singapore in between. FINALLY, she manage to get a WP working in a factory in singapore for past 1 year. Lately, she started forcing me to give more money deposit and 加会 to 买房 for our "future". I am so in huge hesitation.

Any brothers has such same experience ?

Well I don't have such experience, the PRCs I have relationships with are not FLs/MLs etc...

I am curious, I suppose you are still single right, so you plan to marry this woman and have children with her? and you plan to uproot yourself from Singapore and settle down in PRC? Actually what do you plan to do there? What kind of small business you plan to set up there?

Pardon the questions because I am naturally curious about the things other people do or can do that I don't do (or can't do).

[Feilong]

Hope you're not trolling bro, coz if it were me, I'll run far away.

P.S. what does KC mean?

[Vrom]

I am already feeling the hurt. She now dress to attract attention from men when she goes work. It is a clear sign to me that if can't afford then "don't blame me for going out to find someone better".

Thanks anyway

Get out of this before you are in deep shit.

[bignehneh]

I stayed overseas for probably 1/2 my life before I returned to Singapore. Spent a long time in China. If you are financially so stable (earning like $200k and above per annum, prc will flock to you. No need to go sian ktv girls. If you are those tao towkay who earns millions, can chin cay throw $300-400k to ur ktv sugar babe to buy her properties. If you are those who need to consider (which means only got $1mil savings), then just ask her to F off la. With your situation, can get better girls. During my time in China. Don’t even need to go ktv, got decent girls flocking to you. Unless you don’t have the working contacts, so many OLs to sian. Sometimes go Starbucks, apple store. Super market also can sian girls …..happy to share my experience if you find them useful

[cutecuteboy]

I stayed overseas for probably 1/2 my life before I returned to Singapore. Spent a long time in China. If you are financially so stable (earning like $200k and above per annum, prc will flock to you. No need to go sian ktv girls. If you are those tao towkay who earns millions, can chin cay throw $300-400k to ur ktv sugar babe to buy her properties. If you are those who need to consider (which means only got $1mil savings), then just ask her to F off la. With your situation, can get better girls. During my time in China. Don’t even need to go ktv, got decent girls flocking to you. Unless you don’t have the working contacts, so many OLs to sian. Sometimes go Starbucks, apple store. Super market also can sian girls …..happy to share my experience if you find them useful

Could you share some of your stories with us? As in how do you get to meet them, chat them up, attract them and how do these decent PRC girls manage their relationships with you?

Was supposed to be relocated to Shanghai before COVID hits.

[maxsee]

Dun think it has anything to do with whether she is from PRC. The fact that she is from KTV joint should rings alarm bells. :o

[Xgenre]

happy to share my experience if you find them useful

Better for you to start your own thread.

[bignehneh]

Could you share some of your stories with us? As in how do you get to meet them, chat them up, attract them and how do these decent PRC girls manage their relationships with you?

Was supposed to be relocated to Shanghai before COVID hits.

Shanghai is a place where you don’t even need to go to any sleazy massage or ktv. Hot girls are everywhere. Lol! When u free, can pm me. Depends on the type of girls you want la. Haha! Some things I always do:

(1) join some golf lessons and act act play very fucked up. Ask fellow students for advise. Haha! Then free go driving range and practise then sometimes play golf together etc…
(2) I like to hang out at their massive Chinese bookstore (yeah! Sounds idiotic if we are in Singapore but their bookstore is huge with many single ladies/ milf going there to buy cookbooks)
(3) Do a lot of domestic travel can meet those power ladies who travelled a lot. Sometimes a hi or bye ok business/ economy class helps. Don’t pick those cock weekends to travel because you kana all the noisy family. I love business trips because you can always exchange namecards without fail. Can always say fake fake need IT services, or can talk business but don’t say u need sex services.
(4) I do personal trips to hang Zhou. Suzhou. Wuxi etc and sometimes hang out at some pubs. Can pick up those single tourists also
(5) Sometimes sian those leadership staff at the hotels you stay in. Haha! Some without family ones or married but husband working elsewhere are horny also
(6) Got some nice place to hang out like peacehotel jazz bar (met many milfs who loves music) and some tea drinking places.

Bro, remember the success rate not high one but if you have plenty of time, why not? If you hook 1, usually the lady will stay with you for a while and you have less opportunities to hunt again. I quite fortunate as I have an ang mo expatriate as my sifu when I was there. Haha.

He is a senior leader in his 60s but stayed in China for 30+ years. He said sianing girls is like grooming talents for your companies. Don’t worry to nurture as many as you can concurrently. After a while, dispose some if they can’t make it. Keep the good ones. Cast your net. Haha! I thanks him for my good 10+ years in China. I still call him at times to chit chat.

I do miss China at times and I try to return as and when I can. But unfortunately, pandemic kills all the travelling. Cheers!

[Xyberduke]

I had been in a relationship with a PRC for 4 years. Know her at KTV joints. She told me she failed in business and she was in debt and you can see all her history in wechat. I kena KC and support her financially. She was in and out of singapore in between. FINALLY, she manage to get a WP working in a factory in singapore for past 1 year. Lately, she started forcing me to give more money deposit and 加会 to 买房 for our "future". I am so in huge hesitation.

Any brothers has such same experience ?

Do your homework and take over all transactions she wants with your own agents.

Property investment is like MSW.
Home prices are going up like nobody business in China because the property developer sent it up thru stories like prices will keep rising so my buy for children, etc…. So don’t worry about ghost buildings issues, the developers will always have a story to give to send prices up until the government clamp down. But government officials owns hell lot of houses so….

加会
Good and bad. Bad runs away with you money. If you will be cheated, it is within months.
Good ones are actually businessman/woman (the ones I know) looking for capital to expand… they take your money invest in their business and send the profits back to your interests.
I bidded out quite a bit of money from these already, earned from a few I closed and also got cheated in a few… net net didntt earn much after minus the cheated but earned many new friends and expanded network

[bignehneh]

To bro Artwolf

If you have $4, 5mil and you don’t mind losing $200k if something don’t turn out well, you can try. Take $200k to test it out. If you are those with $1mil networth or less, I suggest you stay away. $200k is just beginning only. You need renovation, furniture etc…after few years also need to refurbish the property

[fulham]

I guess it just depends on the strength of your wallet.

Is she very pretty and is able to attract guys easily? If so, be warned, at the end of the day when you cannot afford her financially anymore, she will move on and find another one.

I do agree with bro nehneh. Stay away from KTV girls, they met with all kinds of men and are smarter than you think.


Originally Posted by bignehneh
I stayed overseas for probably 1/2 my life before I returned to Singapore. Spent a long time in China. If you are financially so stable (earning like $200k and above per annum, prc will flock to you. No need to go sian ktv girls. If you are those tao towkay who earns millions, can chin cay throw $300-400k to ur ktv sugar babe to buy her properties. If you are those who need to consider (which means only got $1mil savings), then just ask her to F off la. With your situation, can get better girls. During my time in China. Don’t even need to go ktv, got decent girls flocking to you. Unless you don’t have the working contacts, so many OLs to sian. Sometimes go Starbucks, apple store. Super market also can sian girls …..happy to share my experience if you find them useful

[ps7432]

Bro ts, i would siam far far. A girl who truly loves you will not want to see you spend money. In fact they will spend money for you. I had threw plenty before to WL..multiple ktv girls...all of them only want your money. Got one more serious one, but end of day also end up with fu er dai back in china. Unless you are prepared to be in china forever, otherwise just run. Or unless you really want to help that girl you love and do not mind treating it as gf money. But just make sure you f her as much as possible. All the ktv girls told me the same to me, that if they like you enough, they would not want you to spend a single cent on them. Quite a few of the ktvs girls i know are attached back in china and come out to work because their bfs or husbands back in hone forced them to. But again those are my own experience and when I looked back i regretted spending so much for nothing. The one in china whom i did buy a property for, i got no regret since I f her a lot and did once truly love her. Thread carefully. Do not let your emotions rule over both heads unless you are ready to lose that money as what other bros advised.

[warbird]

I had been in a relationship with a PRC for 4 years. Know her at KTV joints. She told me she failed in business and she was in debt and you can see all her history in wechat. I kena KC and support her financially. She was in and out of singapore in between. FINALLY, she manage to get a WP working in a factory in singapore for past 1 year. Lately, she started forcing me to give more money deposit and 加会 to 买房 for our "future". I am so in huge hesitation.

Any brothers has such same experience ?

Bro, just say NO.

Paradoxically, she will like you a lot more, at least in her subconscious mind.

Good luck!

Shanghai is a place where you don’t even need to go to any sleazy massage or ktv. Hot girls are everywhere. Lol! When u free, can pm me. Depends on the type of girls you want la. Haha! Some things I always do:

(1) join some golf lessons and act act play very fucked up. Ask fellow students for advise. Haha! Then free go driving range and practise then sometimes play golf together etc…
(2) I like to hang out at their massive Chinese bookstore (yeah! Sounds idiotic if we are in Singapore but their bookstore is huge with many single ladies/ milf going there to buy cookbooks)
(3) Do a lot of domestic travel can meet those power ladies who travelled a lot. Sometimes a hi or bye ok business/ economy class helps. Don’t pick those cock weekends to travel because you kana all the noisy family. I love business trips because you can always exchange namecards without fail. Can always say fake fake need IT services, or can talk business but don’t say u need sex services.
(4) I do personal trips to hang Zhou. Suzhou. Wuxi etc and sometimes hang out at some pubs. Can pick up those single tourists also
(5) Sometimes sian those leadership staff at the hotels you stay in. Haha! Some without family ones or married but husband working elsewhere are horny also
(6) Got some nice place to hang out like peacehotel jazz bar (met many milfs who loves music) and some tea drinking places.

Bro, remember the success rate not high one but if you have plenty of time, why not? If you hook 1, usually the lady will stay with you for a while and you have less opportunities to hunt again. I quite fortunate as I have an ang mo expatriate as my sifu when I was there. Haha.

He is a senior leader in his 60s but stayed in China for 30+ years. He said sianing girls is like grooming talents for your companies. Don’t worry to nurture as many as you can concurrently. After a while, dispose some if they can’t make it. Keep the good ones. Cast your net. Haha! I thanks him for my good 10+ years in China. I still call him at times to chit chat.

I do miss China at times and I try to return as and when I can. But unfortunately, pandemic kills all the travelling. Cheers!

Bro, excellent pointers. Thanks for sharing.

May I look you up if you're in China after the pandemic?

Cheers!

Bro ts, i would siam far far. A girl who truly loves you will not want to see you spend money. In fact they will spend money for you. I had threw plenty before to WL..multiple ktv girls...all of them only want your money. Got one more serious one, but end of day also end up with fu er dai back in china. Unless you are prepared to be in china forever, otherwise just run. Or unless you really want to help that girl you love and do not mind treating it as gf money. But just make sure you f her as much as possible. All the ktv girls told me the same to me, that if they like you enough, they would not want you to spend a single cent on them. Quite a few of the ktvs girls i know are attached back in china and come out to work because their bfs or husbands back in hone forced them to. But again those are my own experience and when I looked back i regretted spending so much for nothing. The one in china whom i did buy a property for, i got no regret since I f her a lot and did once truly love her. Thread carefully. Do not let your emotions rule over both heads unless you are ready to lose that money as what other bros advised.

Bro,

Tks for your advice.

The person who cares less has the most power in a relationship.

Cheers!

[Marq]

I think without even considering her background, the fact that you are not going to own any part of a house you are going to pay in China is already a red flag. Even worse is she trying to convince you that it is ok.

Stay away, period

Besides, you really don’t need to be a rich person to attract China girls. They know SG guys are usually more caring than some others, so if they want to settle down and content to live a normal life, you will have your chances without having to gamble on your savings. The limit is your guts to start talking to them.