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Happywheel

19-09-2006, 11:38 PM

Any news? Thaksin finally step down

LengKia

19-09-2006, 11:53 PM

Any news? Thaksin finally step down

WTF! Is it safe to travel to bangkok then

Just booked my air ticket yesterday. :mad:

WoodWind

20-09-2006, 12:06 AM

Happywheel

20-09-2006, 12:33 AM

Military Launches a Coup in Thailand

By GRANT PECK
Associated Press Writer

BANGKOK, Thailand (AP) -- The Thai military launched a coup against Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra on Tuesday night, circling his offices with tanks, seizing control of TV stations and declaring a provisional authority pledging loyalty to the king.

An announcement on Thai television declared that a "Council of Administrative Reform" with King Bhumibol Adulyadej as head of state had seized power in Bangkok and nearby provinces without any resistance.

At least 14 tanks surrounded Government House, Thaksin's office. Thaksin was in New York at the U.N. General Assembly and declared a state of emergency.

MrDevil

20-09-2006, 12:41 AM

Hi All,

The situation is unclear at the moment, the TV Station is not boardcasting anything other then some stupid music. The Telecommunication network is also not functioning.

All information is being Block no way to get the information in and out Bangkok now.

Whether to come to Thailand is a big Question.

Good Luck.

WW]

Telecommunication works fine however, just called one of my puying and reported live from her apartment in city center that there are many military vechiles moving around. The curfew started since 10pm.

All local TV station is controlled by the military with a stupid message that everything will be going fine. You can get some info from BCC online broadcast on Thailand Crisis - http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi/nb_rm_fs.stm?clippos=0&clipurl=http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/nb/rm/video/now2_nb.ram&title=BBC%20TV%20coverage%20of%20Thailand%20crisis&wintype=normal&rhs=http://news.bbc.co.uk/nolavconsole/ukfs_news/hi/newsid_5360000/newsid_5361000/nb_rm_5361084.stm&cs=news&fsname=nb_rm_fs&bw=nb

You can read more about it here at http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060919/ap_on_re_as/thailand

xiao liao

20-09-2006, 12:53 AM

Red_Perrier1099

20-09-2006, 01:23 AM

Our Hadyai brothers because of the bombing have to shift base to BKK. Now bkk under state of emergency.....suay ka hong gan.!!!:p

Sawadee

20-09-2006, 01:43 AM

ccb tomolo got ticket now dunno can go a not
go also no fun ccb now must book ticket go HCM .... cbcbcbcbcb

Peter_North

20-09-2006, 02:08 AM

Thai army charged into Poseidon and Emaneulle and seized all the model category girls.

MisterMarley

20-09-2006, 02:13 AM

Thai army charged into Poseidon and Emaneulle and seized all the model category girls.

bro zhun boh?

CowboyB

20-09-2006, 02:24 AM

Thai army charged into Poseidon and Emaneulle and seized all the model category girls.

you have been dreaming of leading that Thai army for ages, eh? your erotic fantasy is not funny and is disgusting in such dire unstable times. zap me if you want

84gunner

20-09-2006, 02:39 AM

the news at this moment is that the chief of army launch a coup to overthrow thaksin.

thaksin declared BKK in state of emergency in new york. the COA is sacked wif immediate effect, a new COA is appointed wif immd effect. he will return to thailand ahead of schedule. while he is not around now, it is the new COA's duty & job to control the military situation here.

while the (rebel) army declares thailand is under martial law now, the current constitution & parliament is suspended, thaksin says he is still caretaker PM, according to thailand laws.

it started from 10 pm onwards, when i juz finished my bonk in MP in ratchada. knn, i usually get 2 bonks, 2nite, my regular gals not ard, so i choose another gal. knn, turn out she quite small size, while I am quite big build 1.81m. she say pain when bonking, but i managed 2 cum. i know i wont get 2nd bonk.

as I m typing this, i heard quite a no of shots, sounds like shots from air gun. looking out from my window (i stay at 19 floor), all seems peaceful in drizzle...

berg51

20-09-2006, 04:21 AM

Still can go to Thailand but it won't be as fun as before. Hatyai got bombed but some s'poreans are sticking to their plans and going ahead. It all depends on what you thnk and do.
cheers

Vizz

20-09-2006, 04:21 AM

wah...kaoz...really so jia lat mehz?this sunday flying there lehz....god bless

taka77

20-09-2006, 04:42 AM

CCB i flying there at 9 later.............. dunno whether flights going anot/.

disney

20-09-2006, 05:46 AM

wah...kaoz...really so jia lat mehz?this sunday flying there lehz....god bless
shit!bro,same here,suppose to go on sunday.keeping my fingers cross!

tongdaeng

20-09-2006, 05:53 AM

this is indeed bad news!:( my flight there is supposed to on next monday and am supposed to have a vacation there for a week!now like that,must replan my vacation,maybe to chiang mai?hope thailand recover from all this asap.

jrbecker99

20-09-2006, 06:25 AM

Happywheel

20-09-2006, 08:45 AM

the military coup in thailand is bloodless. no one is in danger except for the politicans. so relax bros. go enjoy BKK. life goes on for 99.9% of thais. you will see a lot of soldiers doing check points thats all.

the military is trying to oust & topple him. Maybe situation might be different when he is back from NY. won't think he will give up so easily

zboom

20-09-2006, 09:09 AM

http://www.310mb.com/dav/Bangkok/normal_ssm10772.jpg
http://www.310mb.com/dav/Bangkok/normal_ssm10776.jpg

I working in BKK now.
The street look fine ppls still go to work student still go to school I still eat my breakfast.

Vizz

20-09-2006, 09:25 AM

but i thought the soldiers declared today as a public holiday?they wanna overthrow the government and holding a meeting with all the politicians today set their own laws or something like that....hope it doesnt get too bad..

longgun

20-09-2006, 09:33 AM

my only concern...will the bonk places still stay open? Sekali military rule they control such things...or like someone said..raid the MPs and take the girls for their own military use. haha..

can someone right in downtown bkk help check out if the MPs will are open as usual?

naj57

20-09-2006, 09:34 AM

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I working in BKK now.
The street look fine ppls still go to work student still go to school I still eat my breakfast.

:)
so u can read thai i presume, seeing the papers u read :D

asiancigar

20-09-2006, 09:42 AM

KNN, xiong liao... xiao liao... i m now in BKK sitting in the hotel watch CNN and surfing SBF!

wat a fish... spoil all my plan this week!!!....the army internal got fighting going on... still many uncertainty

must take the next flight back to singapore!

wah lan, why so unlucky kena this kind of situation!!!

xiao liao!!!

cannot cheong liao!!!

Bro.... here's a brain flash..... quickly call OKT (if dont know one, then ask bellboy) to send 2 girls. Then you can fuck them like crazy for the next 2 days and get a great discount coz the situation is very tense outside. :D

Cheerz
asiancigar

Pokimon1

20-09-2006, 09:42 AM

cannot cheong liao!!![/QUOTE]

Hey bro. Don't panic... good opportunity can come out of this!

Last time they had a coup in Bangkok, I had a girl in my hotel room. She told me she was afraid to go out.

I told her, no problem, stay with me lor...

She ended up staying with me for 3 nights, never left the room.
Fuck until siao...for free; I only paid for her food in the hotel.:D

longgun

20-09-2006, 09:46 AM

cannot cheong liao!!!

Hey bro. Don't panic... good opportunity can come out of this!

Last time they had a coup in Bangkok, I had a girl in my hotel room. She told me she was afraid to go out.

I told her, no problem, stay with me lor...

She ended up staying with me for 3 nights, never left the room.
Fuck until siao...for free; I only paid for her food in the hotel.:D[/QUOTE]

wah..all true blue samsters. We worry more about our bonks then our safety. way to go!

Sawadee

20-09-2006, 09:50 AM

damm that looks yummy ..... and to think I was suppose to pick up thai char bor tonite ..... narbei tomyam also no more to eat ...... cccbcbcbccbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcbcb haiz..... already dream of nana plaza .... Fuji sushi ...... hope later go peoples park for PRC FL to fuck b4 I book ticket go HCM .....

zboom

20-09-2006, 10:11 AM

Quote:
so u can read thai i presume, seeing the papers u read :D

No la I can't read Thai but I fully understand the photo though.

:)

zboom

20-09-2006, 10:15 AM

sassina2

20-09-2006, 10:32 AM

Well, if my flight leaves on Friday for Bangkok, I will be there! Better than sitting around in KL where the choices are limited and expenses HIGH.

This is something between Thaksin and his merry military men and the citizenship are not really involved.

If less customers, perhaps, the girls will be even more accommodating!

zboom

20-09-2006, 10:39 AM

Thai TV is back.

Pic (http://www.310mb.com/dav/Bangkok/normal_ssm10777.jpg)

ahlau

20-09-2006, 10:44 AM

please keep this thread ongoing with current news of situation in bkk esp on our common interests ie how the current coup is affecting the choinging joints and entertainment establishments.

KNN, some of us are the unfortunate souls that are planning to visit bkk over the next week or so now blurr sotong on whether to cancel airtickets or not:( However, maybe go see the tanks oso quite shiok hor hor and maybi seldom get to see empty streets in bkk hor hor!!

Anyway, wat the heck, it all politics and the upheavel has really spilled out onto the streets now! pity those tan chiak ppl who livelihood depends on tourism but i am sure things will restore to normalcy soon (Hopefully!!)

ahlau

20-09-2006, 11:06 AM

actually now shd be BEST time to go bkk for chionging ah. Can curi and tarpao one of those MP girls, sure cheep cheep and good service. Then will stay with you for few days bec NO CUSTOMERS and business bad.

Adopt the contrarian view and follow the maxim: "when there is chaos, there is opportunity" wahahahahaaaaaaaa.

Wah shiok ah!!!:D

errortobe

20-09-2006, 11:32 AM

I think there isnt any problem coming here. more worry if got lobang during here... the usual party place got any changes... maybe alot of gal decide to stay at hm thinking many tourist leaving....

but local told me don stay out too late tonite. brother here can verify?
if really, than better book a LT to stay in hotel.... :D

Im stuck in Hotel, brother in BKK if boring do make contacts.... very sian...

Happywheel

20-09-2006, 11:41 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS-4WKiTnx8

footage

[This evening a coup d'etat took power in Thailand, ousting Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra who was in the United States at the time. This is the first television broadcast afterwards explaining the reasons for the coup. Very low quality This evening a coup d'etat took power in Thailand, ousting Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra who was in the United States at the time. This is the first television broadcast afterwards explaining the reasons for the coup. Very low quality and rushed translation job, sorry.]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKYF_ztcFt0

Peter_North

20-09-2006, 11:46 AM

you have been dreaming of leading that Thai army for ages, eh? your erotic fantasy is not funny and is disgusting in such dire unstable times. zap me if you want

What is there to zap ? You are have 10 points.

I don't find it disgusting. Coup is not new in Thailand. It's not a natural disaster. No violence whatsoever.

84gunner

20-09-2006, 11:51 AM

well, u still not in bkk / thailand yet, if things turn out violent & bloody, at most u lose some $$ on your air fare / hotel reservations only. while brudders who are in bkk / thailand now, their lives are at stake!!!

heehee, but well, I should say, the news reports from int'l sources are exagerrated. at home now, i see surroundings is peaceful. but last nite, while reading the news & posting here, at about 2 am, I heard sounds like gun shots from air gun, 10+ shots fired.

only got many calls this morning, n was eventually told not to go to work (in the old airport, where all commercial flights operate from).

High till Dry

20-09-2006, 12:07 PM

Right now, I'm in the airport. Traffic is smooth with few cars.

Yesterday some of the bros were @ soi cowboy when we heard the news.

Nitespots were closed earlier. Not too sure about MPs though...

84gunner

20-09-2006, 01:36 PM

I oso heard tat nite markets like Suan Lum oso closed earlier. Not sure about nite spots though, but wont be surprised. I wont be surprised if nitespots are totally closed 2nite & the subsequent nites, amidst the tension now.

is the airport seized / closed? or flights are still arriving & departing normally?

siamcutey

20-09-2006, 01:43 PM

well, u still not in bkk / thailand yet, if things turn out violent & bloody, at most u lose some $$ on your air fare / hotel reservations only. while brudders who are in bkk / thailand now, their lives are at stake!!!

U are mad si bo? Why would your life be at stake if you are not pro-TRT. :rolleyes:

What has thaksin's regime got to do with the ordinary people and citizens when the Army's aim is to topple Thaksin?

Don't exaggerate pls.

SC

taurus75

20-09-2006, 02:00 PM

U are mad si bo? Why would your life be at stake if you are not pro-TRT. :rolleyes:

What has thaksin's regime got to do with the ordinary people and citizens when the Army's aim is to topple Thaksin?

Don't exaggerate pls.

SC

jai yen yen..brudder.
think its about time i conduct some Thai history lesson liao...

84gunner

20-09-2006, 02:06 PM

well, I am not into Thai politics, I am juz an ordinary man who's into working, earning salary & enjoying life.

the news said that Thaksin sacked the Chief of Army (who led the coup), and appointed a new one. if this new COA is pro-TRT or pro-Thaksin, then won't it make the military divided into 2 camps, and then these 2 camps fight?

of course, I hope everything can be resolved peacefully soon, so all businesses can go back to normal asap, and we enjoy life as normal as before!

flyguy

20-09-2006, 02:18 PM

am now in pattay - nothing seems to have changed - like normal people everywhere - altho at hops n cafes tv does show some reports abt the coup in the city - but otherwise nothing seems to change - except do see bit more activity in some (chinese - ha ha maybe fellow kiasi countrymen) checking out probably earlier due to this. Likely be some jams on the highway to don muang, but dont expect anything drastic.

siamcutey

20-09-2006, 02:19 PM

jai yen yen..brudder.
think its about time i conduct some Thai history lesson liao...

Go thailand and enjoy holidays can liao. Enjoy the sun, the babes, the food.

It is a bloodless coup and the Army are only against Thaksin. They just want him down. They do not want the people's life.

In the event there is any collision or crossfire, just make sure stay out the way of bullets and bring passport out wherever one goes.(to prove identity of foreigner)

SC

brown noser

20-09-2006, 02:46 PM

Guys sure that its safe to go? I'm supposed to go on Friday morning.. still adopting a wait and see attitude.. in the meantime i think i'll go find Joyce at BTSC for a boink :D

jbangkok

20-09-2006, 03:11 PM

I am in bangkok now and everything seems normal. The only difference is that for the next couple of nights there is a curfew in effect at 10PM. I will be able to report on the night life this weekend. I think by the weekend everything will be back to normal.

ahlau

20-09-2006, 03:28 PM

84gunner

20-09-2006, 03:31 PM

jai yen yen..brudder.
think its about time i conduct some Thai history lesson liao...

yes brudder, will appreciate if u can conduct some thai history lesson...me in bkk for 3 months liao, but still dunno much, cant speak thai oso

siamcutey

20-09-2006, 03:50 PM

I jus went to change some thai bht currency for my impending holiday to bkk next week. KNN, thai bht still strong lei and not realli drop. In fact its the kiasu sing $ that fell more in tandem with thai bht. This makes buying the thai bht even more expensive (for us silly-poreans ) than a week ago.
Lucky i onli change few hundred dollah!!! me so poor lei. hehe

let's say 23.76 and drop to 23.00

and its a difference of .76baht per dollar

lets say change $1000 and its only a difference of 760 baht. 760baht not even enough for 1 night at Palazzo.:)

Unless we are talking about changing 100-millions of dollars, then thats a different kind of speculation we talking about.:D

SC

WorldSexGuide

20-09-2006, 04:03 PM

let's say 23.76 and drop to 23.00

and its a difference of .76baht per dollar

lets say change $1000 and its only a difference of 760 baht. 760baht not even enough for 1 night at Palazzo.:)

Unless we are talking about changing 100-millions of dollars, then thats a different kind of speculation we talking about.:D

SC

760B enough to stay one night at Ratchada city hotel or Wattana Mansion. ..hehe

760B also can go for 1 session of oil massage. keke..

I would consider buying some thai B if the exchange rate is $1 to 25B or 26B.

siamcutey

20-09-2006, 04:07 PM

760B enough to stay one night at Ratchada city hotel or Wattana Mansion. ..hehe

760B also can go for 1 session of oil massage. keke..

I would consider buying some thai B if the exchange rate is $1 to 25B or 26B.

With a country that practises democracy and yet is not democratic, u dare to buy their currency and keep ah. :rolleyes:

with the extra 760baht, u want stay extra nite in BKK now?:D

Use how much change how much lor.

hehehe
SC

The_Unrepentant

20-09-2006, 04:38 PM

Singrakthai report please.:D

siamcutey

20-09-2006, 04:44 PM

Singrakthai report please.:D

He 1st one to 'run road' upon hearing of the coup...

Now don't know he hiding in which hole... I mean 'cave'...:D

hehehe
SC

The_Unrepentant

20-09-2006, 05:00 PM

I think thaksin should change his money to coins to drown the thai army.:D

ahlau

20-09-2006, 05:03 PM

ahya all this talk abt win or lose a few dollah over currency exchange is all meaningless one la. It is just a "feel-good" factor to us kiasu sillyporeans to feel we gotten the upper hand over either buying something and to kid ourselves to think that we have beaten the system. It's the same mentality we apply when we haggle over 10-20 bhts discount with street vendors in chatuchak or MBK etc!! Its not really bec of the money unless like wat bro SC pointed out, we had changed currency in several thousand sing $$$.

Even the 760 bht is maybi jus enough to cover tips for one fling at Poseidon MP, after buying drinks and give drink lady and attendants tips, captain tips and MP girl.:eek: What if go pegasus and such places? die la tips to captain jorghi oso not enuf ah!! hahaha.

Anyway concerning the coup in bkk, IMHO it will remain peaceful and things will slowly return to normal as the locals and even govt officials noe that everyday folks gotta survive!! It seems most thais oso quite sick of TST's kelonging all these years + his crony-ism so it perhaps time he is ousted. Maybi just need the Thai king to come out to talk and calm situation.

I dun think TST dare to come back to BKK liao. anyway he super rich got plane and apartments all over the world so he's set for life liao. Probably if he out of job, can apply to be CEO for our sg local sleague. They will surely appreciate his expertise on how to deploy kelong tactics in local soccer scene. hahahaha:D

fubarmale

20-09-2006, 06:50 PM

Hi Bros,

I currently working in BKK and just want to check with other bros working here at the moment whether their companies had initiated an evac. due to situation here. Thanks.

Regards,

serembanmen

20-09-2006, 06:55 PM

He 1st one to 'run road' upon hearing of the coup...

Now don't know he hiding in which hole... I mean 'cave'...:D

hehehe
SC

mUAHAHAHAH Bro sinrakthai... where are u now:D

ldy_hanger

20-09-2006, 06:56 PM

Developments in the military coup d'etat today,
Sept 20, 2006 (all times Thailand):

bangkokpost.com

1535hrs: Democratic Reform Council leader General Sonthi Boonyaratkalin: Suvarnabhumi Airport will be opened as scheduled, no plan to seize Thaksin's assets, no plan to seize Shin shares back from Temasek.

1529hrs: Democratic Reform Council leader General Sonthi Boonyaratkalin: Council will be in power for 2 weeks during which a constitution will be drafted and a PM appointed. An election will then be held within one year.

1518hrs: Ousted PM Thaksin arrives in London from New York for family reunion. No further word on his future.

1407hrs: Troops close northern Thai borders with both Laos and Burma, and forbid all overland travel from those countries. International airports open as normal.

1407hrs: Indonesia issues official travel warning advising citizens to delay or cancel all travel to Thailand.

1214hrs: Coup authorities demand "cooperation" of mass media - IT ministry authorised to check, censor information that affects the council work.

1126hrs: Thai ambassador in Washington says deposed PM Thaksin preparing to leave United States. It appears he will go to London, where he has a home.

1119hrs: Coup authorities deny appointment of Surayudh Chulanont as PM - say that the country will not have a PM for now - Gen Sonthi Boonyaratkalin has premier's power

1108hrs: US government joins many countries in urging citizens to reconsider any travel plans to Thailand. Most countries urge citizens in Thailand to stay inside.

1027hrs: Cable TV partly resumes on UBC but main foreign news channels such as CNN, BBC, CNBC, NHK and Bloomberg remain blacked out. Thai TV programmes resumes, no news.

1001hrs: Credit analyst of ratings firm Standard and Poors warns Thailand faces credit rating downgrade - says coup could quickly paralyse and undermine investment climate.

0955hrs: Ex-deputy PM and senior caretaker Chidchai Vanasathidya has been detained at army headquarters according to army sources.

0934hrs: +++yo stock prices tumble as anxiety spreads over Thailand coup - Nikkei down 1.12 pct. Baht at 37.755 in New York - no local rate set.

0930hrs: New Zealand joins growing chorus of foreign countries condemning coup - Japan, European Union demand immediate return to democracy. US, Philippines urge peace.

0353hrs: Thaksin cancels scheduled speech to United Nations. It is unclear if he is trying to return home more quickly.

0352hrs: Today is declared a holiday for govt offices, banks - new policy statement due from coup leaders to businessmen, diplomats at 9 a.m.

0329hrs: Headlines Coup leaders promise fast return to democracy. US hopes peaceful resolution of coup crisis. Authorities cut cable TV news, Thaksin wants to return.

0328hrs: US stocks fall on news of Thai coup, fears of another Asia currency crisis. Dow ends off 14 at 11,541. Baht falls from 37.20 to 37.77 per dollar after coup.

September 19, 2006

2335hrs: The coup makers calling themselves Democratic Reform Council led by commanders of the arm forces now take control of the country without any resistance.

2240 hrs: Prime Minister Thaksin has declared a state of emergency, ordered troops restricted to barracks.

2238 hrs: It's a coup as the military appeared to be in control although Channel 9 aired Thaksin's state of emergency announcement, ordering removal of Army Chief Sonthi.

High till Dry

20-09-2006, 08:49 PM

I just came back from bkk.

Everything seems fine...

How I wish I was working there. Can get "free" holiday... :D

ThaiHotels

20-09-2006, 08:58 PM

Bros,

Why the state of emergency?

I think this is the only way to stop all the trouble in the south once and for all. They are so anti-Thaksin and he wont step down. Had a general election and he won by a landslide victory.

There is so much untold factors in it, that are behind the scenes. They thai people and tourists are in no danger. The military are to protect the Royal Family only. My mate is one of the high up officers overseeing this.

New pm to be a civilian in two weeks. Then normal order to be restored. No violence, bloodshed at all.

Pls see this post in the Bangkok Post. No need to cancel your trip.

http://bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=113052

Tim

zboom

20-09-2006, 09:37 PM

Shop & stall in shopping mall (Business Area) are advise to close at 8pm the shopping mall will shut down at 9pm.
Many shop automatic closed today.

The Thai ppls do worry!

ahlau

20-09-2006, 10:08 PM

Latest news from CNA: Thai King endorses the coup leader . That means situation shd return to normal soon as in Thailand, watever King says all will follow without any objection!

Cheers:)

84gunner

20-09-2006, 11:17 PM

Hi Bros,

I currently working in BKK and just want to check with other bros working here at the moment whether their companies had initiated an evac. due to situation here. Thanks.

Regards,

I oso working in bkk, I believe in much more sensitive zone than most other sillypore folks. I m working in 1 of govt infrastructure projects, which is a common target & normally 1 of 1st few targets to be captured / seized during times of unrest.

no evacuation initiation, I personally oso do not intend 2 leave nor evacuate unless the situation is critical or govt (thai) announces / advise evacuation.

I m the only sillyporean working in the project, while there are quite a no of farangs here. in fact, this morning, 1 of my superiors, a farang, said she will go to work. the project director, oso a farang, said tat she leaves it to individual to decide.

I will go to work 2molo, unless the situation changes overnite.

Peter_North

21-09-2006, 12:27 AM

84gunner

21-09-2006, 12:31 AM

Shop & stall in shopping mall (Business Area) are advise to close at 8pm the shopping mall will shut down at 9pm.
Many shop automatic closed today.

The Thai ppls do worry!

they dun really seem worried. they seem to be more of juz following instructions / cooperating wif instructions.

from my observations 2day, most of the ppl juz take advantage of the public holiday to go shopping, sit at cafes, relaxing, etc. i oso went foot & thai massage, haha.

they dun seem worried / afraid / bothered. many of them juz said it's govt's quarrels, govt problems, they wont bother ordinary civilians.

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 01:41 AM

Latest news from CNA: Thai King endorses the coup leader . That means situation shd return to normal soon as in Thailand, watever King says all will follow without any objection!

Cheers

hahaha,

Sorry, I just got to laugh myself here. Why?

Irony, The most 'democratic' country(supposedly) in the region of South East Asia, using a coup to overthrow the current government. This is the so-called 'Democracy' we are seeing.

And the best part is the King 'endorses' the coup leader meaning to say he endorses the 'coup' which in turn I really want to ask is there a need for Elections to come after all?

hahahahahahaha, its a real joke. :D

I don't mean to poke fun at other's country or monarch but to be frank, the truth is all here for everyone to read. And nothing I can do, except for pointing some of the truth, and laughing myself silly at them.

'Democracy' died yesterday in Thailand and I don't see why they should have another election. I am waiting to see whether they will be the next Myanmar. BTW, Aung San Suu Kyi is still in her house, unable to come out. :cool:

SC

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 01:47 AM

I oso working in bkk, I believe in much more sensitive zone than most other sillypore folks. I m working in 1 of govt infrastructure projects, which is a common target & normally 1 of 1st few targets to be captured / seized during times of unrest.

I m the only sillyporean working in the project, while there are quite a no of farangs here. in fact, this morning, 1 of my superiors, a farang, said she will go to work. the project director, oso a farang, said tat she leaves it to individual to decide.

I need to ask are you the only sillyporean working in the project cos others are SINGAPOREANS????:rolleyes: :D

SC

CowboyB

21-09-2006, 03:04 AM

hahaha,

Sorry, I just got to laugh myself here. Why?

Irony, The most 'democratic' country(supposedly) in the region of South East Asia, using a coup to overthrow the current government. This is the so-called 'Democracy' we are seeing.

And the best part is the King 'endorses' the coup leader meaning to say he endorses the 'coup' which in turn I really want to ask is there a need for Elections to come after all?

hahahahahahaha, its a real joke. :D

I don't mean to poke fun at other's country or monarch but to be frank, the truth is all here for everyone to read. And nothing I can do, except for pointing some of the truth, and laughing myself silly at them.

'Democracy' died yesterday in Thailand and I don't see why they should have another election. I am waiting to see whether they will be the next Myanmar. BTW, Aung San Suu Kyi is still in her house, unable to come out. :cool:

SC

Although I agree with many of your starting points, I don;t think this military coup is equivalent to the brutal military regime in Myammar. And I don't see your reason for mentioning Aung San Suu Kyi unless you are likening him to Thaksin, which is ridiculous. Aung San Suu Kyi is respected the world over for her struggle against a military dictatorship and the Myammar people elected her into power because of that.

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 03:54 AM

Although I agree with many of your starting points, I don;t think this military coup is equivalent to the brutal military regime in Myammar. And I don't see your reason for mentioning Aung San Suu Kyi unless you are likening him to Thaksin, which is ridiculous. Aung San Suu Kyi is respected the world over for her struggle against a military dictatorship and the Myammar people elected her into power because of that.
Myanmar is communist, not democratic. Period. Thats why Aung San is 'kept' at home.
Thailand is said to be democratic but chose not to acknowledge election results.

BTW, I did not likened Aung San to Thaksin. I mentioned Aung San as an example of communism.

If you have visited Myanmar before, you would have seen how backwards the country is due to their communist regime. Want to find a condom in their convenience store also damn hard.

For the last 8 years, Thailand worked so hard to repay debts to IMF, one of the fastest economies in the world for the past few years. Thaksin could be corrupted like what some said but I guessed none really remembered what policies he made to help the country when their country is in the dumps.

Removing a Thaksin, only breeds another one. All the hard work over years is finished in just a few days.

We'll get to see a new man at the helm, and he definitely wouldn't last long....

Did anyone wonder why the military didn't wait for Thaksin to be back from US, before launching the coup? Or they have no confidence in success if he is back in Thailand?:D

SC

84gunner

21-09-2006, 11:17 AM

I need to ask are you the only sillyporean working in the project cos others are SINGAPOREANS????:rolleyes: :D

SC

there are several farangs, the rest are local thais. I am the only 1 here who belong to neither groups!

84gunner

21-09-2006, 11:20 AM

Latest news from CNA: Thai King endorses the coup leader . That means situation shd return to normal soon as in Thailand, watever King says all will follow without any objection!

Cheers:)

from all the news I gathered so far, the "endorsement" from the King is only said by the coup leader. The King did not personally endorse it, the "endorsement" did not come out from The King's mouth personally, at least not reported in the media!

asiancigar

21-09-2006, 11:29 AM

from all the news I gathered so far, the "endorsement" from the King is only said by the coup leader. The King did not personally endorse it, the "endorsement" did not come out from The King's mouth personally, at least not reported in the media!

Bro 84gunner.... according to Channel News Asia, an official statement was issued from the Royal Palace around 1830hrs yesterday.

Anyway, i don't think the coup leader is so suicidal to 'make up' such a claim when it concerns the King (God).

I am packing my bags liao for a 3 day romp..... :D

Cheerz
asiancigar

Vizz

21-09-2006, 11:35 AM

Guess i'll just continue my trip on the 24th.....hope thaksin doesnt get back....it'll be chaos again once he is back

ldy_hanger

21-09-2006, 11:43 AM

Everything seems fine today and student start go to school, unlike yesterday my cafe totally no pple at all :eek: .... but sources say that Taksin will be back today evening. :confused:

ldy_hanger

21-09-2006, 11:51 AM

PM's men detained, wife in Singapore

Many politicians and those with links to caretaker prime minister Thaksin Shinawatra were spread far and wide last night as the news of the coup broke in Bangkok.

First lady Pojaman reportedly flew to Singapore on Monday and it is not known whether Panthongtae, the family's only son, followed his mother last night.

The whereabouts of the PM's daughters Paethongtae and Pinthongta were not known.

Thaksin is in New York at a hotel, where he has reportedly been watching the United Nations General Assembly and keeping abreast of developments here.

Many Cabinet members and other people deemed hostile by the "Council of Administrative Reform" have been detained. Deputy Prime Minister Chidchai Vanasatidya and Supreme Commander Ruengroj Mahasaranont and pro-Thaksin television host Dusit Siriwan are among them.

Head of the Mass Communications Organisation of Thailand Mingkwan Saengsuwan was apprehended by anti-Thaksin troops at Channel 9 compound after it aired a statement of Thaksin, from New York, announcing a state of emergency and relieving Armycommander Sonthi Boonyaratglin from his post.

Deputy Thai Rak Thai leader and caretaker Agriculture Minister Sudarat Keyuraphan reportedly flew to Paris with her family.

Defence Minister General Thamarak Isarangura na Ayutthaya reportedly escaped arrest narrowly and has fled upcountry.

PM's secretary-general Prommin Lertsuridej reportedly made an unplanned landing in the Phillippines during a trip abroad while Bank of Thailand governor MR Pridiyathorn Devekula was in Singapore.

Deputy Thai Rak Thai Party leader Somsak Thepsuthin said he was shocked by last night's coup and never thought it could really happen. A number of TRT MPs may meet today at the party headquarters.

Source: The Nation

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 12:06 PM

From what I do read,

The Military are divided in 2 camps. 1 is the coup started by Gen Sonthi, while the other supporting Thaksin currently is keeping low profile awaiting for further instructions by their leaders.

Thaksin is different from other leaders previously ousted from coups. Because he is bloody rich. When u have money, a lot of things can be done. :D Furthermore, he still has quite strong support.

Just a late nite quiet coup can bring him down? I don't think so.

SC

asiancigar

21-09-2006, 12:13 PM

Because he is bloody rich. When u have money, a lot of things can be done. :D Furthermore, he still has quite strong support.

Just a late nite quiet coup can bring him down? I don't think so.

SC

Hmmmm, interesting observations Bro SC.... however, don't think he'd dare go against the will and wrath of the King (God) who has the love and support of 62 milion people

Cheerz
asiancigar

allover

21-09-2006, 01:02 PM

yourmate76

21-09-2006, 02:02 PM

Yo Bro

Me in BKK Royal princess , any good joint to patronise?? I bored to death liao......somemore kanna coup......or anyone have OKT number whihc i can call for room services??

Sinoview

21-09-2006, 02:30 PM

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/20/thai.king.ap/index.html

with the royal backing, difficult for Thaksin to get back..

Very good article....that almost fully explained reason for the "coup"...

Nobody will ever win against the monachy where many of the kings are treated like "gods"...eg. King Rama V . This king Bhumibol Adulyadej has aready got the status like his great grand father..... Can Thaksin defeat him ? Not a single chance. The Monachy is more than a religion for the Thai...

ahlau

21-09-2006, 02:37 PM

KHS05

21-09-2006, 03:59 PM

So, how's the night scene in @ Cowboy and Nana? Most importantly what time do they close? Is it 10:00pm or is back to 1:00am? I'll be these next Tuesday to Sunday.

The_Unrepentant

21-09-2006, 04:36 PM

I thought thaksin said if the king ask him to resign, he will do it willingly.

Then like tat how? he need to eat back his words?:confused:

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 05:08 PM

Hmmmm, interesting observations Bro SC.... however, don't think he'd dare go against the will and wrath of the King (God) who has the love and support of 62 milion people

Cheerz
asiancigar

The King is only Human. He is not God, because he will go through birth, aging, sickness and death. He is having God-Like Status due to the monarchy which has been passed down for centuries.

However Humans do make mistakes at times too.;)

SC

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 05:13 PM

alamak . how cum this thread become platform for political discussion abt LOS??? Ahya, me onli realli interested in whether it is "business as usual" at MPs and nightspots and FL joints , go-go bars etc etc.Oso how much thai bht i can squeeze outa my measly few hundred sing$$ which is all i can afford for my long-awaited fling in bkk!! hehe.

obvious chiong-ing and politics do not mix but just my humble tots and also myheartfelt concern for those lay-people whose livelihoods may be greatly affected by the shenanigans of the people in power, which is called "POLITICS!!!

Dun bother whether TST can make political comeback or not! he damn super rich, maybi political interests only to further his business empire and interests!! haha. All the talk abt Death of Democracy sounds like a idealised western slogan or notion which idiotic angmors use so liberally. Errrh, Sammy leong dephi forum a lot of this type political disgustion opps i mean discussion.

Cheers!! woho hooooooo:D

On a sexual note,

If the situation is chaotic, there will be curfews and no one will dare go MP also mah. In places which are chaotic, people still have to eat and feed. So in order to do that also must have money.

If the situation turns worst, some girls might even go underground and charge cheaper (maybe) for survival. While more may even flock out from Thailand to our shores.

With the political assassination of Thaksin, mafias, druglords will rise.. More drugs on market, girls who play them will need more money, so more girls will engage in flesh trade for fast bucks to stave off their addictions. :p

So is this a positive view or negative view?

SC

cheapskate

21-09-2006, 05:15 PM

Hatyai bombed and now Bangkok coup I think if you dare go chiong Thailand now confirm got cheap deals

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 05:26 PM

http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/09/20/thai.king.ap/index.html

Thaksin's arrogance 'something the king cannot stand'

For many in Thailand, it was a clash between two men: an arrogant prime minister and a humble king who always wins.....

with the royal backing, difficult for Thaksin to get back..

Wow, the article from 1st read we already knew its "biased"
Arrogant Thaksin, Humble King

Let the people decide by voting who they want to be Prime Minister.
If Thaksin is lousy, he will not win elections in coming October (original planned election). So if Thaksin wins again and again and again, it only shows his support from the people is very strong. For every 1 person who dulan him, there may be 2 who loves him. That is what the election is for. For the people to choose who they want, not by certain factions who want him to be removed.

Also, there must be really something wrong with their constitution to have so many coups over few decades. Every time when just about they were moving towards democracy, they took a few steps back by having a coup.

SC

Malaysian Datuk

21-09-2006, 05:48 PM

Wow, the article from 1st read we already knew its "biased"
Arrogant Thaksin, Humble King

Let the people decide by voting who they want to be Prime Minister.
If Thaksin is lousy, he will not win elections in coming October (original planned election). So if Thaksin wins again and again and again, it only shows his support from the people is very strong. For every 1 person who dulan him, there may be 2 who loves him. That is what the election is for. For the people to choose who they want, not by certain factions who want him to be removed.

Also, there must be really something wrong with their constitution to have so many coups over few decades. Every time when just about they were moving towards democracy, they took a few steps back by having a coup.

SC
In my view this is a power struggle......where is democracy when an elected PM can be 'dismissed' by the military? Overall there are more who support him then those who oppose him but unfortunely those who oppose him are those who know how to make nosie namely those middle class in bangkok....the academia, aristocratic class (the old power network) who are threaten by Thaksin's hold on power.....the instigator is Prem....The King just got drag into the fray....just my 2 bahts worth

monvantee

21-09-2006, 06:32 PM

everything is back to normal in Bangkok. The situation here is calm, safe and peaceful. most places are business as usual.... :)

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 06:32 PM

In my view this is a power struggle......where is democracy when an elected PM can be 'dismissed' by the military? Overall there are more who support him then those who oppose him but unfortunely those who oppose him are those who know how to make nosie namely those middle class in bangkok....the academia, aristocratic class (the old power network) who are threaten by Thaksin's hold on power.....the instigator is Prem....The King just got drag into the fray....just my 2 bahts worth

Its the hunger for power.

Just like children playing masak.

Big Bro, "Eh, this toy is daddy, mummy buy one. they say we share."
Small bro, "who say one, now its mine."

Big Bro (doesn't want to lose the toy), "they say one, i dun care, i going to play and if u want for yourself, i dun let you play already."

In the end, came the fighting and they snatched till the toy spoil, both parties happy right?:D

SC

singrakthai

21-09-2006, 06:44 PM

Also, there must be really something wrong with their constitution to have so many coups over few decades. Every time when just about they were moving towards democracy, they took a few steps back by having a coup.
SC
I agree with u... :D
U know wats funny? Funny thing is most Thai don't even talk about this thing... most treat this Coup as "normal" as if it happens all the time. Most say its expected to happen sooner or later. Full stop. Nothing more to dicuss.

Most people still talking and discussing about this issue are foreigners like u and I.. I talked to an Australian yesterday and he went on and on about this and told me no Thai wanna talk to him about this. He feels that Thai don't wanna talk to him is cos they had "lost face" as their Army had to step up to put a stop to Thaksin... so they're not democrats as much as they like to claim themselves to be.

And furthermore, all these talks about their King... I suggest you guys restrain from even mentioning about their King if you want to have a conversation with a Thai.. unless u got praises for him. Fullstop.

Other than that, everything's normal in Thailand. I'll suspect all entertainments are back but I cannot be sure as I'll stay out from the city untill this weekend. :D

Mr.romance

21-09-2006, 07:32 PM

Cheri_Popper

21-09-2006, 07:39 PM

U know wats funny? Funny thing is most Thai don't even talk about this thing... most treat this Coup as "normal" as if it happens all the time.

In a lifetime in Thailand, one would had witness an average of 4-5 coups.

There had been around 5-6 coups since WW2.

Mr.romance

21-09-2006, 07:42 PM

Other than that, everything's normal in Thailand. I'll suspect all entertainments are back but I cannot be sure as I'll stay out from the city untill this weekend.
Shit ka...I was hoping u can update us whether any kangtao for puying with better rates at this point of time , I will book the next flight to BKK if there is any...
:D

Mr.romance

21-09-2006, 07:43 PM

In a lifetime in Thailand, one would had witness an average of 4-5 coups.

There had been around 5-6 coups since WW2.
heng Sg had no history of any coup...If there is any I will conquer GL first...kekeke
:D

Mr.romance

21-09-2006, 08:06 PM

msg deleted

siamcutey

21-09-2006, 08:18 PM

I agree with u... U know wats funny? Funny thing is most Thai don't even talk about this thing... most treat this Coup as "normal" as if it happens all the time. Most say its expected to happen sooner or later. Full stop. Nothing more to dicuss.

Most people still talking and discussing about this issue are foreigners like u and I.. I talked to an Australian yesterday and he went on and on about this and told me no Thai wanna talk to him about this. He feels that Thai don't wanna talk to him is cos they had "lost face" as their Army had to step up to put a stop to Thaksin... so they're not democrats as much as they like to claim themselves to be.

And furthermore, all these talks about their King... I suggest you guys restrain from even mentioning about their King if you want to have a conversation with a Thai.. unless u got praises for him. Fullstop.

Other than that, everything's normal in Thailand. I'll suspect all entertainments are back but I cannot be sure as I'll stay out from the city untill this weekend. :D

Maybe Thailand do not understand the meaning of DEMOCRACY, and yet they said they practise DEMOCRACY????

No one is talking anything bad about the King. Who dares actually? In the heart you know I know can liao lor.

Why u so kia sii.. Go out and play lar. Scared what? U look like Panthongtae meh? :p

SC

W1nn3r

21-09-2006, 08:27 PM

I a bit confused. :confused:
The military who seized the capital are rebels or what ?
Whose side are they on ?

Who vs who ? Is it the PM vs that Army Chief ?
If that the case means the Army Chief rebels ?

And the King support who ?
And the people support who ?

So is the PM going to get kick out ?

:confused: Sibei confuse.

wansomemilk

21-09-2006, 09:20 PM

Thanks to brothers in Bangkok giving us first hand info on the scene in BKK.

Members who chiong probably would appreciate some regular updates on opening hours and situation (perhaps even pricing) at:

(1) Massage Parlours & BJ Cafes - which are closed? Or open later/closes earlier?

(2) NEP, Cowboy areas are they still go-going? any Curfew?

(3) FL locations like Siam hotel, are they still hot?

(4) Club scene like RAO any problems?

Thanks again to our eyes in bangkok.

ahlau

22-09-2006, 12:21 AM

So did u manage to tapao any from nataree?
Where is bro SStand?

me still no go bkk yet and havent step foot on thai shores coming to 2 years. planning to go next week with some bros.
Bro Sstand contact me via sms last week but no reply since then.

Perhaps after i start frequenting bkk again, will get in touch with him again. But now have free accomodation for coming trip bec got some bros working and living in bkk:D

cheers!

ahlau

22-09-2006, 12:30 AM

Other than that, everything's normal in Thailand. I'll suspect all entertainments are back but I cannot be sure as I'll stay out from the city untill this weekend. :D

just had a call from sg fren working in bkk. he said all back to normalcy liao so seems like situation is "Bo tai chee" liao!!
:D
Let the idiotic politicians, army generals, investment bankers and economists worry abt the politics. We jokers just wanna have fun in MP or disco and NEP and g-clubs etc etc then everything is fine and dandy!! hehe!

singrakthai

22-09-2006, 10:12 AM

In a lifetime in Thailand, one would had witness an average of 4-5 coups.
There had been around 5-6 coups since WW2.Most of my friends witnessed 3 Coups already... this is their 3rd one. This is the least voilence one with no arms fired at all. It looked like a well planned Coup cos Thaksin's message on TV was intercepted within minutes on air. Everything happened so fast and the armies were deployed within couple of hours...
I wonder how our brothers in SYC are when this thing happened.... dunno got shit their pants or not... :D Maybe Thailand do not understand the meaning of DEMOCRACY, and yet they said they practise DEMOCRACY????
U go ask ur Thai friends lor... I've learnt not to ask these kinda confronting questions to Thai people cos u never know when u'll offend them.
Why u so kia sii.. Go out and play lar. Scared what? U look like Panthongtae meh? I don't normally go into the city on weekdays anyway... I was in my gym yesterday and there seens less crowded but nevertheless still lots of people... Still many soldiers along the road and cars will slow down to have a look at the soldiers and some take photos. They look harmless....
Other than that, everything's normal and life goes on. ;)
We're advised not go out in a group of more than 6 people... and don't stay out too late...

taurus75

22-09-2006, 10:57 AM

Since not much ppl understand or know of what a 'coup' is :

What is a 'coup'?

- coup d'etat: a sudden and decisive change of government illegally or by force
- A coup d'état (pronounced 'kū dā ta'), or simply a 'coup', is the sudden overthrow of a government, usually done by a small group that just replaces the top power figures. It is different from a revolution, which is staged by a larger group and radically changes the political system. The term is French for "a sudden stroke, or blow, of a state". ...

The Thai armed forces seized power on Tuesday without firing a shot, dismissing Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's government in the country's first coup in 15 years.

Here is a chronology of some of the military coups and major attempted coups since the southeast Asian nation became a constitutional monarchy in 1932.

1932: King Prajadhipok is overthrown in a coup d'etat. A military junta led by three educated radicals, Pridi Phanomyang, Major Phibun Sangkhram and Colonel Phahon Phonphaywhasena, takes control. Phrayo Manopakorn is appointed Prime Minister.

1933: Manopakorn dissolves the National Assembly and rules by decree, until he is removed in another coup. Phahon, one of the three involved in the 1932 coup, becomes Prime Minister.

1947: Military coup by General Phin Choonhavan deposes the government. Luang Aphai-Wongse is appointed Prime Minister, but is replaced by Phibun the following year.

1951: Phibun leads another military coup and restores the 1932 version of the constitution.

1957: Following a coup led by General Sarit Thanarat, politician Pote Sarasin is appointed leader of an interim government.

1976: An attempted military coup is defeated in February, but a successful coup in October overthrows Prime Minister Seni Pramoj. Admiral Sa-ngad Chaloryoo, previously minister of defence, is installed as chairman of a National Administrative Reform Council.

Oct 20, 1977: The government of Thanom Kravichien, appointed in 1976, is overthrown by a military coup, again led by Sa-ngad. A military Revolutionary Council takes power.

April 1, 1981: An attempted coup, led by General Sant Chipatima, deputy commander-in-chief of the Army, is suppressed by forces loyal to the government.

Sept 9, 1985: A coup is attempted by Colonel Manoon Roopkachorn; a number of senior officers are later arrested.

Feb 23, 1991: The government of General Chatichai is ousted in a bloodless military coup. Power is assumed by a National Peacekeeping Council, led by General Sunthorn Kongsompong.

Sept 19, 2006: The armed forces take power and dismiss Prime Minister Thaksin Shinawatra's caretaker government while Thaksin and several other ministers are overseas. The military revoke the constitution and promise a swift return to democracy after political reforms.

taurus75

22-09-2006, 11:08 AM

21 Sep, 2006 0014hrs ISTAP

BANGKOK: For many in Thailand, it was a clash between two men: an arrogant prime minister and a humble king who always wins.

Thailand's revered King Bhumibol Adulyadej has yet to utter a word about the dramatic overnight coup that ousted Thaksin Shinawatra. But speaking out is not the style of the 78-year-old monarch, who despite age and frailty has shown that he remains the most powerful man in the country.

It remains unclear what role the king played in removing Thaksin.

The palace claims it was not involved, but many Thai people, along with political and monarchy experts, see it as another example of the constitutional monarch's behind-the-scenes power, which he has exercised sparingly but effectively in his six-decade reign.

"If the king didn't give a nod, this never would have been possible," said Sulak Siwalak, a prominent social critic and author of books on the role of Thai monarchy.

"Thaksin failed to realise that the king has been on the throne for 60 years and he's no fool. The man is old and Thaksin thought he could play around with him and it was a dangerous game," said Sulak. "He felt he could belittle the king, and that's something the king cannot stand."

There was no one event that led to Thaksin's ouster, but a series of missteps that prompted many to accuse the prime minister of challenging the king's authority an unpardonable act in Thailand.

taurus75

22-09-2006, 11:31 AM

Anyone interested if i run thru a simple History Of Thailand?

lingwu74

22-09-2006, 11:49 AM

[QUOTE=singrakthai]I don't normally go into the city on weekdays anyway../QUOTE]
halo...even on weekends u hardly go into the city la these days :rolleyes: ...i will be back on 2 oct...see whether u can party or not (apply for permission now la) and dun mention that you are partying with me ok!

asiancigar

22-09-2006, 12:00 PM

Anyone interested if i run thru a simple History Of Thailand?

YES PLEASE.... would be very interesting and useful indeed. :)

Cheerz
asiancigar

siamcutey

22-09-2006, 01:02 PM

U go ask ur Thai friends lor... I've learnt not to ask these kinda confronting questions to Thai people cos u never know when u'll offend them.

The Thais I asked, said that Thaksin is a good PM leh, personally I don't like Thaksin, but I think he is a good PM.

1) Paying off IMF's debts within years.
2) Turned Thailand into 1 of the fastest economies in S.E.A.
3) Stopped the widespread of drug abuse in Thailand
4) The medical policies for the poor.
5) Rural development policies for the poor

and many more....

So the people I asked them if they say he is no good, then I asked why he get elected again and again. If they say because he is corrupt and he got money, you think my question is stupid or they gave me a stupid answer? ;)

hehehe
SC

Vizz

22-09-2006, 02:41 PM

Would be traveling to Thai on this coming Sunday,anyone knows whether the night life at nana area is affected?are the a go go bars still open?

Malaysian Datuk

22-09-2006, 06:18 PM

The Thais I asked, said that Thaksin is a good PM leh, personally I don't like Thaksin, but I think he is a good PM.

1) Paying off IMF's debts within years.
2) Turned Thailand into 1 of the fastest economies in S.E.A.
3) Stopped the widespread of drug abuse in Thailand
4) The medical policies for the poor.
5) Rural development policies for the poor

and many more....

So the people I asked them if they say he is no good, then I asked why he get elected again and again. If they say because he is corrupt and he got money, you think my question is stupid or they gave me a stupid answer? ;)

hehehe
SCI believe Thaksin is a good PM....at least better than the past few PMs in the last 2 decades.....but his brash style of governing ruffled many feathers (Thaksin's idol is MM Lee so what you expect).....and these people few threaten because Thaksin was getting 'too powerful' and they feel their traditional power network dismantling. So they booted him out.Sad day for Thailand and democracy.

siamcutey

22-09-2006, 09:38 PM

I believe Thaksin is a good PM....at least better than the past few PMs in the last 2 decades.....but his brash style of governing ruffled many feathers (Thaksin's idol is MM Lee so what you expect).....and these people few threaten because Thaksin was getting 'too powerful' and they feel their traditional power network dismantling. So they booted him out.Sad day for Thailand and democracy.

Thaksin is inspired by how Singapore develops and under the rule of PAP. That is why many things he did, he did it without considering how some minority factions felt. They felt he was getting too powerful.

Thailand is a buddhist state and they do not like violence. That is why when Thaksin curb the drug issues then, many were killed and many were not happy too. Even the King wanted an inquiry as to why these people were killed in the process.

But did they found out actually thousands were saved from these drugs as drugs were really too widespread and easily available then. The Military then were also involved in the drugs problem when officers were corrupted enough to let their subordinates be peddlers too.

Aiya, when someone becomes a leader, people will start saying he is corrupted this and that... This happens in many countries, don't you think so.

SC

chanthira

22-09-2006, 10:32 PM

But did they found out actually thousands were saved from these drugs as drugs were really too widespread and easily available then. The Military then were also involved in the drugs problem when officers were corrupted enough to let their subordinates be peddlers too.

Aiya, when someone becomes a leader, people will start saying he is corrupted this and that... This happens in many countries, don't you think so.

SC
They are not only thousands were save from these drug ,if you consider a lot of younster and family will save from this ,then you can consider it is in term of millions

chanthira

taurus75

23-09-2006, 01:35 AM

A Brief Outline of The History of Thailand
http://i39.photobucket.com/albums/e179/75taurus/untitled-2.jpg
King Rama V The Great

ANCIENT HISTORY

In the 7th century AD Thailand was populated by the Mon and Khmer civilizations who were heavily influenced by Indian culture. At this time the Tai tribes from Yunnan Province in China moved into Thailand largely to avoid the warring Mongols and in particular Kublai Khan. These people moved in to the Khmer domains and were called Syumas (aboriginal forest dwellers)by the Khmer. From this term came the words Siam and Siamese being the old names for the country and its' people. This brought heavy Chinese influence and it is generally accepted that this was the starting point of Thai history. Over the next few hundred years tribes from other places also settled in Thailand.

taurus75

23-09-2006, 01:36 AM

THE SUKHOTHAI PERIOD

Recorded Thai history really starts with the Sukhothai Period when in 1253 AD King Phra Ruang captured Sukhothai from the Khmers and established it as a capital. This period reached its zenith when King Ramkhamhaeng extended the Kingdom to include land on all sides. This King was the first to be called ‘The Great’ and is acknowledged as the founder of the written Thai language. The largest university in Thailand carries his name today.

In 1350 King Rama Tibodi 1 founded Ayutthaya as the second capital city and continued to expand the Kingdom. King Trailok 1448-88 founded the civil service, introduced reforms in land ownership and set the precedent for royal succession.

During the 16th and 17th centuries Thailand received visits from Japanese and European traders, mercenaries and missionaries and various minor wars were conducted against neighbouring Cambodia and Myanmar. In 1767 invading Burmese captured and severely damaged Ayutthaya. King Taksin founded a new capital at Thonburi. In 1778 the 2,000 year old Emerald Buddha was recaptured and taken to Thonburi. King Taksin was murdered and his senior army general Tongduang took over leadership of the country and he became Cha Phya Chakri or King Rama 1 the first King of the current Chakri dynasty in 1782.

taurus75

23-09-2006, 01:38 AM

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taurus75

23-09-2006, 01:39 AM

THE CHAKRI DYNASTY

For the first couple of hundred years nothing very remarkable happened but there were various minor wars and skirmishes and an increase in exports due to more and more overseas visitors.

In the 19th century King Mongkut, Rama 4, negotiated the first official trade treaties with the UK and USA, he reformed the taxation system, reorganised the police, army and navy and initiated reforms in transportation. He is well known as the King who hired Anna Leonowens to teach his children and from which the story of The King and I arose. His farsightedness has led him to being very respected by the current Thai people.

King Mongkut presented a Thai Royal Crown to Queen Victoria which is currently on display at Windsor Castle. He was succeeded by his son.

King Chulalongkorn, Rama 5, is revered today as a great monarch and his birthday on 23rd October is a national holiday. His image can be found in most Thai homes and businesses. During his reign from 1868-1910 he continued the westernisation of his kingdom and the fact that he wrote and spoke excellent English was a great asset to the country. He travelled extensively, including to Europe, seeking for ideas to help improve the life of his subjects.

He abolished slavery, established the governing body of Buddhism known as the Sangha Council, established a Council of State, a Privy Council and 12 Ministries to administer the country. In the field of education he was remarkable for establishing Chulalongkorn University, reforming the school system to form proper schools which could be attended by girls as well as boys. The first railway was opened and proper coin currency was introduced with the opening of the first mint.

During the expansion of the colonial British and French he negotiated to lose Laos, parts of Cambodia and Malaysia to these superpowers in order to retain the independence of Thailand and the country acted as a buffer zone between them. Thai people are fiercely proud of the fact that they were never colonised. Upon his death he was succeeded by his son.

Kin Vajiravudh, Rama 6, reigned from 1910-1925. His background of having been educated at Oxford University and the Royal Military Academy at Sandhurst was of a great benefit to him and he backed Britain during World War 1. He continued central government reforms initiated by his father, introduced compulsory education and very significantly introduced surnames for all Thai people for the first time. As he only had a daughter he was succeeded by his brother.

King Prajadhipok, Rama 7, 1925-35 was educated at Eton. During the World depression of the late 1920’s to early 1930’s he was forced to reduce government salaries and increase taxes which was obviously extremely unpopular and led to a group of dissatisfied military and civil service personnel attempting a coup to overthrow him. In 1932 he agreed to give up absolute monarchy and reduce the role of the monarch to a constitutional one only. A constitution was introduced with a new parliament and a prime minister post based on the British parliamentary system. The name of the country was changed from Siam to Thailand. In 1935 he abdicated and retired to live in England. As he had no son he was succeeded by his nephew.

King Ananda Mahidol , 1935-46, was only ten years old when he was passed the throne and unable to rule in his own right. Therefore a revolutionary leader Regent was appointed who later became prime minister. His name was Pridi Panomyong who is famous in recent Thai history. He wanted to nationalise all lands and enterprises putting everyone in the country on the government payroll. During the Second World War he played a vital role by organising underground resistance to the invading Japanese. He is honoured for founding Thammasat University which continues to be a radical seat of learning. In 1946 King Ananda Mahidol was found shot dead in still unsolved mystery circumstances at his palace and Pridi was overthrown and fled the country in 1947.

King Bhumipol Adulyadej, Rama 9, 1946-date, succeeded King Ananda Mahidol and reigns to date. His Majesty is the longest serving monarch in the World at present and his many achievements and the enormous effect his reign has had on the Thai people and the country of Thailand we will revert back to soon. However now it would be appropriate to briefly examine the major events from 1960’s to date affecting the country.

1960’s-1975 Thailand allied itself with the USA against the danger of communism and during the Vietnam war. It allowed US forces to be stationed in Thailand. In 1968 a new constitution was introduced making the Prime Minister responsible to Parliament. The 1969 general election was short lived being overthrown in 1971 when martial law was enforced. Amid growing frustration students led an uprising culminating in the 14th October 1973 clash of students against the army resulting in 69 deaths and over 800 wounded. The King forced the prime minister to resign and leave the country. The King then really came into his own by appointing a new prime minister, the first civilian in over 20 years to hold the office. Fresh elections were held in 1975 and 1976.

On 6th October 1976 communist sympathisers assaulted Thammassat University killing and wounding many, the result of which was another military coup. The King appointed a very anti communist judge as prime minister. He proved to be too radical and was forced to step down in 1980 to be succeeded by General Prem Tinsulanonda.

General Prem proved to be a hero for his country. He listened carefully to advice and consulted closely with the private business sector to solve problems between the public and private sectors. In 1982 he was responsible for arranging a national celebration to mark 200 years of the Chakri dynasty and the 200th anniversary of the founding of Bangkok as the capital city. This double celebration pushed the profile of the King forward and for this he received royal gratitude. General Prem continued to reform the constitution, survived two attempted coups, took a risk by devaluing the Thai Baht which led to the economy roaring away as an economic success and which was known as an Asian tiger. Having served the longest as prime minister he stepped down. A bridge in Songkhla province was named in his honour, a sign of the respect he received.

General Chatichai Choonhavan saw the economy continue to expand at a rate of 10% per year until he was overthrown in a bloodless coup in 1991 when General Suchinda Kraprayoon installed himself as prime minister. However in May 1991 many students demonstrating against the coup were killed and injured on Ratchdamnoen Road and Suchinda was forced to resign. Elections followed and a civilian lawyer, Chuan Leekpai, from the southern province of Trang was elected as prime minister. He proved a good leader but not very strong and was succeeded by Banharn Silpa-Archa whose time in office saw a downturn in the economy and in 1996 General Chavalit Yongchaiyudh was elected as prime minister. He floated the Baht which proved disastrous as it devalued by 50%, the economy collapsed and the country had to turn to the International Monetary Fund for help. He resigned in 1997 and Chuan Leekpai returned as PM.

Chuan Leekpai dealt astutely with the IMF and under his leadership the economy slowly revived. In 2001 fresh elections were called and US educated telecommunications tycoon Police Colonel Dr. Thaksin Shinawatra was elected Prime Minister in a landslide victory with his newly formed Thai-Rak-Thai party. Thaksin has continued to assist the economy to grow and has initiated projects to assist rural areas as well as founding a new university. He wants to continue educational reforms and wants the Thai people to become a nation whose second language is English.

King Bhumipol Adulyadej has reigned over an often turbulent Kingdom and has won the love and respect of the Thai people for his very much appreciated hard work and efforts to help the Thai people. The King is the unifying force behind the country and it's stability. A keen sailor, saxophone player, photographer and artist who used to love sports car in his youth, he is fluent in English and French and is also a talented composer. He is adored by his people and although not now enjoying the best of health he continues to work tirelessly for his people and for the good of Thailand.

Mr.romance

23-09-2006, 02:36 AM

Mr.romance

23-09-2006, 02:39 AM

1) Paying off IMF's debts within years.
2) Turned Thailand into 1 of the fastest economies in S.E.A.
3) Stopped the widespread of drug abuse in Thailand
4) The medical policies for the poor.
5) Rural development policies for the poor

hehehe
SC
but can someone advise how come thai baht seems to get stronger since
there are speculations Thaksin is stepping down

Sinoview

23-09-2006, 10:16 AM

The witch hunt continues.....

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=113095

The starting of an end...

Sinoview

23-09-2006, 11:10 AM

The Thais I asked, said that Thaksin is a good PM leh, personally I don't like Thaksin, but I think he is a good PM.

1) Paying off IMF's debts within years.
2) Turned Thailand into 1 of the fastest economies in S.E.A.
3) Stopped the widespread of drug abuse in Thailand
4) The medical policies for the poor.
5) Rural development policies for the poor

and many more....

So the people I asked them if they say he is no good, then I asked why he get elected again and again. If they say because he is corrupt and he got money, you think my question is stupid or they gave me a stupid answer? ;)

hehehe
SC

I cannot agreed wif u more....

Thaksin has done man things that no one, yes no one in Thailand is able to do. He's able to do them partly be of his wealth...

The thai politicians are so corrupted that nothing can be moved without "benefiting" these fractions. The previous PM Chuan Leekpai is a Mr Clean yet his report card was damn bad. Almost everthing cum to a stand still. He just cannot run the country the way he wanted to.

I think....there wont be any PM who can achieve a fraction of what Thanksin had accomplished for Thailand.

Like u, i personally do not like Thaksin but i think he's he best man Thailand can have to lead.

asiancigar

23-09-2006, 11:31 AM

Many thanks to Bro tauras75 for his overview of Thailand history.... it does give one an impression that Thai people and politics seem very fluid with a King God that allows system, people and governance to evolve.

Cheerz
asiancigar

Red_Perrier1099

23-09-2006, 11:34 AM

Aiya, when someone becomes a leader, people will start saying he is corrupted this and that... This happens in many countries, don't you think so.

SC

the same applies to this forum...when that person becomes a moderator for the international folder.

nanog69

23-09-2006, 12:50 PM

the same applies to this forum...when that person becomes a moderator for the international folder.

PeeWee is already a conster WAY BEFORE he is made a moderator.

Regards
Nanog69

asiancigar

23-09-2006, 01:12 PM

Thaksin henceforth....

Now that the King has publicly endorsed the Coup. Thaksin's fate is sealed....

a) ZERO FUTURE POLITICAL ROLE
In life.... people quickly forget the many good that one has done, often choosing only to focus on the latest wrong that has been commited. Despite all that Thaksin has done during his brief reign, he will be labelled a Tyrant and Corrupt Dictator... simply unforgiveable given the fact that most people felt that he wanted to appear BIGGER than the King God.

Thaksin is a great political chess player (Thai rules) but has met his Waterloo against an even greater adversary.... King God himself.

Some say that he has the Billions,... hence can make a come back...

b) DEPLETING FINANCIAL RESERVES
Read between the lines of Coup Leader when he says that Thaksin's Billions will not be confiscated.... what is happening now is that Thaksin has NOT LOST his Billions.... but simply that he CANNOT move or use them because they are FROZEN pending investigations. Make no mistake, Thaksin still has Billions.... but only in name.

It was masterful (Sun Tze style) when i read that the Coup Leader is presently soliciting (courting) a High Court Judge and Governer of Central Bank for the post of Interim PM. Simply by doing so, Coup Leaders have raised the credibility and elevated these 2 individuals to "Hero' status in the eyes 60 million Thais. Wow, what an honor for them..... in return, am sure that these 2 will pledge allegience and even die for the cause.
Thence,... Bank Governer will reveal the entire financial assets of Thaksin empire both in Thailand and those outside of the country.... and with the stroke of a pen can FREEZE them forever.
The High Court Judge can and will be asked to determine what, which, how and when... laws has been broken, tested or bend by Thaksin in an effort ultimately to culminate the quick political demise of Thaksin now and forever...

c) DIMINISHING REPUTATION
With the arrest and detention of former Deputy PMs, close aides, croonies and relatives of Thaksin.... here comes the fun part of 'playing poker' and 'mind games'.
No matter how good/close their relationship with Thaksin, no matter how loyal they were, no matter how strong their belief and conviction..... ULTIMATELY, one by one will based on animal instinct and a greater sense of self-survival.... start to 'sell out' Thaksin, begin to 'sing like a bird' and turn prosecution witness in exchange for immunity from conviction. More importantly, they get to keep their mega-millions that they have gained from their close relationhsip with Thaksin. In short, they will crucify Thaksin and feed him to the wolves....

d) FAST EVAPORATING OPTIONS
Thaksin basically has 2 options....

Option 1 = stay away, live in exile and in disgrace on the miilions (NOT BILLIONS) that he has accumulated and kept outside of Thailand and out of the reach of the Thai Government.

or

Option 2 = pay the price for a one way ticket to return to Thailand. MAKE NO MISTAKE, it will come at a VERY HIGH PRICE.
Consider this scenario.... with mounting evidence and allegations against him (derived from sources described in para c)..... Thaksin will have to negotiate and pay 'toll' for each kilometer of the journey home.
For example,... lets say that he has USD10B....

- to have a evidence wiped clean for bribing the education ministry: cost US100m
- to have a evidence wiped clean for bribing the law minsitry: cost US200m
- to have a evidence wiped clean for bribing the defense ministry: US500m
etc
etc
etc.... ULTIMATELY, he will have to use his ENTIRE FINANCIAL EMPIRE in an attempt to try to wipe the slate clean but alas...

e) PRISON TERM
Should he decide to return..... he will have to go straight to the Royal Palace, seek audience with the King,... admit to wrong doing, show remorse and beg for benevolence and FORGIVENESS.

The King will off course 'forgive' him but not grant a 'pardon'..... meaning that Thaksin will be absolved of capital punishment wrong-doing and 'perhaps' charged with a minor 'mis-governance' or 'tax evation'... bottom line, maybe a jail term of no more than 3 years

f) CONCLUSION
Win, WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN, win

WIN for the KING for his GOD like understanding, benevolence, patience in handling earthly turmoil and chaos

WIN for the Coup Leaders as they ride away into history as the great White Knights in Shining Armour

WIN for the country of Thailand as the Thaksin Billions will be recirculated into the economy (of the powers to be)

WIN for the people of Thailand as there is again peace, harmony, songkla and lots of sex

WIN for the traitors of Thaksin as they go back into ordinary life and lavish for generations to come

WIN for Thaksin as he gets away with a slap on his wrist and 'perhaps' serve out his prison sentence in an air-con cell furnished with plasma TV while planning a possible coup of his own for a 'hostile take over' of Liverpool FC.... albeit in disgrace, bankrupt, broken dreams of what could have been.

win for me.... coz i have been very fortunate to have so many patient Bros read my 'hot air' regarding the matter.

Now back to the more important issue of sexxxxxxxxxxx
asiancigar

The_Unrepentant

23-09-2006, 05:44 PM

Aiya, when someone becomes a leader, people will start saying he is corrupted this and that... This happens in many countries, don't you think so.

SC

not ppl start saying when u become leader. fact is power usually leads to corruption.

rocketscientist

24-09-2006, 06:46 PM

the same applies to this forum...when that person becomes a moderator for the international folder.

I beg to differ...Thaksin was elected, PeeWee was appointed but both same corrupt and out to make money from others foolishness, both are dirty like shit

rocketscientist

24-09-2006, 06:47 PM

I beg to differ...Thaksin was elected, PeeWee was appointed but both same corrupt and out to make money from others foolishness

power corrupts but absolute power corrupts absolutely

siamcutey

24-09-2006, 06:55 PM

King Ananda Mahidol , 1935-46, was only ten years old when he was passed the throne and unable to rule in his own right. Therefore a revolutionary leader Regent was appointed who later became prime minister. His name was Pridi Panomyong who is famous in recent Thai history. He wanted to nationalise all lands and enterprises putting everyone in the country on the government payroll. During the Second World War he played a vital role by organising underground resistance to the invading Japanese. He is honoured for founding Thammasat University which continues to be a radical seat of learning. In 1946 King Ananda Mahidol was found shot dead in still unsolved mystery circumstances at his palace and Pridi was overthrown and fled the country in 1947.

King Bhumipol Adulyadej, Rama 9, 1946-date, succeeded King Ananda Mahidol and reigns to date. His Majesty is the longest serving monarch in the World at present and his many achievements and the enormous effect his reign has had on the Thai people and the country of Thailand we will revert back to soon. However now it would be appropriate to briefly examine the major events from 1960’s to date affecting the country.[/B]

Another question wanted to ask was why no one managed to find out how Kind Ananda was killed:confused:

Is it because they don't know who, or they cannot say who?

SC

rocketscientist

24-09-2006, 07:00 PM

Another question wanted to ask was why no one managed to find out how Kind Ananda was killed:confused:

Is it because they don't know who, or they cannot say who?

SCThai History 101...King Ananda committed suicide.

siamcutey

24-09-2006, 07:10 PM

f) CONCLUSION
Win, WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN, WIN, win

WIN for the KING for his GOD like understanding, benevolence, patience in handling earthly turmoil and chaos

WIN for the Coup Leaders as they ride away into history as the great White Knights in Shining Armour

WIN for the country of Thailand as the Thaksin Billions will be recirculated into the economy (of the powers to be)

WIN for the people of Thailand as there is again peace, harmony, songkla and lots of sex

WIN for the traitors of Thaksin as they go back into ordinary life and lavish for generations to come

WIN for Thaksin as he gets away with a slap on his wrist and 'perhaps' serve out his prison sentence in an air-con cell furnished with plasma TV while planning a possible coup of his own for a 'hostile take over' of Liverpool FC.... albeit in disgrace, bankrupt, broken dreams of what could have been.

win for me.... coz i have been very fortunate to have so many patient Bros read my 'hot air' regarding the matter.

Now back to the more important issue of sexxxxxxxxxxx
asiancigar

U forgot to mention that 'we will benefit' as more girls will join flesh trade because drug dealers will be back. More people will join the flesh trade to feed of drug addictions. The power of military ensures that DRUGS will make a comeback.:rolleyes:

SC

rocketscientist

24-09-2006, 07:17 PM

U forgot to mention that 'we will benefit' as more girls will join flesh trade because drug dealers will be back. More people will join the flesh trade to feed of drug addictions. The power of military ensures that DRUGS will make a comeback.:rolleyes:

SCMilitary in power very dangerous. Once they impose martial law or curfew then kiss all the nightlife goodbye. This scenerio not impossible.

asiancigar

26-09-2006, 12:59 AM

Err, who's the enuch? Must get reliable 1 to look after spoils of war aka court ladies.. :p

I whole hardenly volunteer my services to be security chief to the court ladies..... dont have to have my balls cut off... hahaha :D

Cheerz
asiancigar

HotDong

26-09-2006, 01:46 AM

IMO Thaksin probably already knows about the impeding coup. His family was already no in Thailand when the coup happened.

84gunner

26-09-2006, 04:13 PM

...by the way y u don wan conquer silly pore? i wan to be the king here. let lao lee be my servant.:D

good! i support tat!!!

then mebbe I will consider go work & live in sillypore again!!!

adboy_6

26-09-2006, 04:15 PM

Hi

I am now in BKK and enjoying myself. No evidence of any coup, except some soldier standing guard along some intersection.

Life is as per normal.

Talk to some local and it should be ok until next week, prior to the announcement of the new PM. Things would start getting nasty when:
1. Taksin decided to take couteraction, which is unlikely wth the king not on his side.
2. If the junta do not produce anything as promise. IE, new PM by next tuesday,

So, if you are still planning to visit BKK, do so prior to next Tuesday, or wait until the new PM and his team is in place