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sgjoey
15-02-2012, 03:32 AM
Most people are still retards when it comes to matters pertaining to sexuality. In contrast, many who inhabit the world of SBF actually have a more mature and realistic attitude towards human sexuality.

In most fields, professionalization is accepted and welcomed. Sporting professionals are paid huge sums of money for their talents. Professional singers and artists are highly respected. We all want our doctors to be true professionals -- or would you rather be treated by amateurs? Even the word "professional" denotes someone who devotes his time to doing something well, and being well-paid for it.

So why isn't the professionalization of sex similarly welcomed?

You want the best sex? Good luck to you if you can get it from your spouses and girlfriends. But if you are not as lucky, what's so unwholesome about trying to get it by employing the services of sex workers who are professionals in their own right?

In a more sexually-enlightened world, the sex professional would be as well-respected as any other member of any other profession. Needless to say, we are very far away from living in such a world.

RealEstateGuy
15-02-2012, 04:30 AM
Most people are still retards when it comes to matters pertaining to sexuality. In contrast, many who inhabit the world of SBF actually have a more mature and realistic attitude towards human sexuality.

In most fields, professionalization is accepted and welcomed. Sporting professionals are paid huge sums of money for their talents. Professional singers and artists are highly respected. We all want our doctors to be true professionals -- or would you rather be treated by amateurs? Even the word "professional" denotes someone who devotes his time to doing something well, and being well-paid for it.

So why isn't the professionalization of sex similarly welcomed?

You want the best sex? Good luck to you if you can get it from your spouses and girlfriends. But if you are not as lucky, what's so unwholesome about trying to get it by employing the services of sex workers who are professionals in their own right?

In a more sexually-enlightened world, the sex professional would be as well-respected as any other member of any other profession. Needless to say, we are very far away from living in such a world.

Braddah because sex intersects with love or can even be viewed as a subset of love. Braddah, on Valentines Day did you see people buying gals in KTV flowers and chocolate? I'm sure you might say yes but it would be illusionary.

sgjoey
15-02-2012, 05:06 AM
So what if sex is sometimes associated with love?

For many humans, sex is a basic gene-driven need. Civilised societies should provide good infrastructure where needs of all kinds can be satisfied in ways that benefit all. But when it comes to sexual desire, the infrastructure is still there, but inhabit the murky underworld that is associated with unwholesomeness and crime.

Why? Part of the problem is society's solution to the problem! By criminalizing such activities, society automatically prevents its citizens from fulfilling such needs in a clean, wholesome manner. Desire becomes viewed as a perversion -- which is clearly absurd since it is clearly something naturally in all of us.

This is a sad indictment not just of Singapore society but most developed societies of the world. It's actually a misnomer to refer to human society as "developed" -- in very many ways, especially in matters pertaining to sexuality, we are still infantile.

Much of the problem originates with the influence religion has on our minds and on our values. Christopher Hitchens, in his book "God is not great" was absolutely spot-on to assert that religion poisons everything it touches.

RealEstateGuy
15-02-2012, 08:38 AM
So what if sex is sometimes associated with love?

For many humans, sex is a basic gene-driven need. Civilised societies should provide good infrastructure where needs of all kinds can be satisfied in ways that benefit all. But when it comes to sexual desire, the infrastructure is still there, but inhabit the murky underworld that is associated with unwholesomeness and crime.

Why? Part of the problem is society's solution to the problem! By criminalizing such activities, society automatically prevents its citizens from fulfilling such needs in a clean, wholesome manner. Desire becomes viewed as a perversion -- which is clearly absurd since it is clearly something naturally in all of us.

This is a sad indictment not just of Singapore society but most developed societies of the world. It's actually a misnomer to refer to human society as "developed" -- in very many ways, especially in matters pertaining to sexuality, we are still infantile.

Much of the problem originates with the influence religion has on our minds and on our values. Christopher Hitchens, in his book "God is not great" was absolutely spot-on to assert that religion poisons everything it touches.

Braddah, nice thinking. Award you Braddah for your insightfulness. Braddah, I say it more succintly. Braddah we are not animals but humans so love overrides animal instincts therefore sex is a subset of love. Braddah if you draw a Venn diagram you will see my point Braddah.

ZenneZ
15-02-2012, 10:48 AM
You can also read Perfect world by Al Steiner where it protray a society structured by common sense in tune to true human nature.

Our current world have very confused and mixed ideas due to economy and technology boom that develop way faster then our culture

We cannot say the current "religious views" are wrong or poisonous but rather, very outdated will be a more correct word.

Religious and popularized moral values are olden times useful methords used by the ruling class for population behavior control to establish stablity within the community/ country to solve social problems.
(In a world where there is no birth control pills, condom, medicine againts std and detection of std, what other methods can u use?)

As the world develop, and technology reach a point where there is total solution for STD and birth control, social problems will automatically be solved and our society sex views will quicky evolve to a state that is more inline with our human nature.

HunterJ
15-02-2012, 11:21 AM
Another "in-depth" discussion... But I don' have any brain power to give comments now. haha ! I'll be back soon ~~~ :D

sgjoey
15-02-2012, 03:59 PM
Braddah, nice thinking. Award you Braddah for your insightfulness. Braddah, I say it more succintly. Braddah we are not animals but humans so love overrides animal instincts therefore sex is a subset of love. Braddah if you draw a Venn diagram you will see my point Braddah.

First, it is just not true that we are not animals. Homo sapiens are one species of animals whose closest relatives on the tree of life are chimpanzees and bonobos. And love is not unique to humans either. It is not for nothing that bonobos are called love apes. In contrast to chimps, bonobos literally spend much of their waking hours making love, not war.

Second, as noted, love is indeed associated with sex but they are not necessarily the same thing. Love can lead to sex, and sex to love but at the bottom line sex is the physical act that has to do with the instinctive need for release experienced by both sexes. Humans generally need to feel loved. They also need sex when their libidos are intact.

Sex workers are therefore one avenue for fulfilling the sexual needs of humans. Rationally speaking, they should be much more respected than they are. Instead, much of the world treats them with scorn and they mostly operate in conditions that are sub-optimal.

Anel King
16-02-2012, 02:28 PM
Hi Bros

Just giving my 2 cents opinion.

All human beings who work honestly to live life, should be respected. Even if they sell their bodies to earn a living, or as you say, Prostitute themselves as Sex Professionals.

I have been with a number of these Sex Professionals. Majority do this line of work because they have no choice, this is a fast & quick way to get out of what ever problems they are facing.

There is about 10-20% of the Sex Professionals in the world who actually work in this line because they enjoy it. Trust me, I have encountered 2 in my life, in America. And sex with them is totally different when compared to those who do this because they have no choice.

Trust me. These professionals will do anything and everything to make you feel special and super sexually satisfied.

Geylang, Massage Parlors and Buy me drink bars & Pubs, you may find the type that you like but may not be sexually up to standard. But then, you may get lucky.

And because majority of the girls are in this line out of no choice, they don't serve well. And because of the low service standard, everyone will treat them like shit and not human. And that is when society looks down at people who join the line.

It's the same for Men & Women.

So even though you are going to these places to F*#K and release your sexual needs. Treat them good. Even though they are like dead fish. But if you not satisfied, even after you release your army, think what you went there for in the first place, to Love or to F#*K.

If to love, please look for a girlfriend, wife or FB.

If the other then, just F#*K, PAY & F#*K OFF!!!

callmebad
16-02-2012, 04:27 PM
I have nothing against the professionalization of sex
I don't think we should see sex workers as criminals or be treated as criminals
Actually, they can be the weakest part of the society, sometimes being forced by circumstances to do the things that they themselves disdain
But the problem is our society as a whole is still very phony or hypocrite.
In front of the camera, lying without blinking to say they're conservative but behind door, they're anything but conservative
The problem is we can't even accept homosexual, lesbians, same-sex marriage, how do you expect the society to accept professional sex workers
Actually women should thank them for helping them to 'lighten their workload' - sometimes they just really want to have a real good sleep and they wish their husbands can understand this and leave them alone and it is here where the sex workers can temporarily 'shoulder the burden':)

sgjoey
17-02-2012, 02:37 AM
One point of clarification.

Sex work is no different from other kinds of work -- not everyone enjoys working. How many of us can truly say that we enjoy our work? We work because we need to live. Many are forced by circumstances to do the work they do. And sex work is no different in this respect.

wolflust
17-02-2012, 11:48 PM
If you take a look on websites like Stomp, you will still find people who can't even accept Public Display of Affection, sometimes even just kissing and hugging. Not many men even dare to admit to their guy friends that they are going for commercial sex (be it legal or illegal).

To some, especially girls (even though they are alright with flings and ONS), commercial sex is wrong. If they know you ever do it, they will look at you with a different eye as though you are dirty, you are committing a crime.

That's why even though they are actually professionals especially those that give you sexual satisfaction when your wife or gf can't, they are not accepted as such.

For those here, since you are using their services, why not treat them as service providers and treat them with dignity. Pay for the services as you have negotiated and treat with respect. And sometimes you will get maybe better service or a feel/satisfaction that is lacking in your "normal" sex life.

If others don't treat them as professionals that's fine but you who purchase their services should start doing so.

muscularman
18-02-2012, 07:30 AM
Braddah, nice thinking. Award you Braddah for your insightfulness. Braddah, I say it more succintly. Braddah we are not animals but humans so love overrides animal instincts therefore sex is a subset of love. Braddah if you draw a Venn diagram you will see my point Braddah.


hey prata, roti prata, why don't you do some charity work like helping out in CDCs rather than spending time here talking nonsense ah prata !

thank you prata !

Johnston
18-02-2012, 11:33 PM
So why isn't the professionalization of sex similarly welcomed?

. Needless to say, we are very far away from living in such a world.

Correction: The professionalization of sex is not welcomed in the world which a lot of us are physically living in now , which is to say : The Republic Of Singapore.:rolleyes:

America, britain, japan , taiwan etc have porn shops and actual porn mags :rolleyes: and it is perfectly acceptable to have the odd rape scene in cable tv or even mainstream drama...

They have annual Sex Award ceremonies and other such exposition in the states, we HAD that sex exhibition and it was only for one year (IT Show every years though) :D

It is completely acceptable for the adult film industry to make sex films parodying sarah palin or other such politician.....

i could go on - but i'll just say this
Amsterdam = sex are us :eek:

shoutcast
18-02-2012, 11:36 PM
Sex might result in intimacy

Its hardwired in your sub conscious so its hard to decouple them

sgjoey
18-02-2012, 11:50 PM
It is easy to see why many women do not approve of female sex workers. They are viewed as rivals who may wreak havoc on their marriages. Sex workers could also be suffering from STDs, infect their husbands who in turn can infect their wives.

However, the use of the condom goes a long way towards minimizing STDs. As for being rivals, such a worry is actually quite groundless because most married men who use the services of sex workers aren't seeking to divorce their wives so much as just seeking more variety in their sex lives. Ironically, if the wives make a big fuss if they find out, it could very well lead to divorce.

sgjoey
19-02-2012, 12:07 AM
Correction: The professionalization of sex is not welcomed in the world which a lot of us are physically living in now , which is to say : The Republic Of Singapore.:rolleyes:

America, britain, japan , taiwan etc have porn shops and actual porn mags :rolleyes: and it is perfectly acceptable to have the odd rape scene in cable tv or even mainstream drama...

They have annual Sex Award ceremonies and other such exposition in the states, we HAD that sex exhibition and it was only for one year (IT Show every years though) :D

It is completely acceptable for the adult film industry to make sex films parodying sarah palin or other such politician.....

i could go on - but i'll just say this
Amsterdam = sex are us :eek:

Other countries may be less prudish about sex. But the attitude towards sex professionals are not much different. The wife of Tiger Woods filed for divorce after it was discovered that Tiger was a fan of sex workers. When Hugh Grant was caught having sex with a sex worker in a car, his girlfriend Elizabeth Hurley dropped him like a hot brick. In fact in the USA, sex work is illegal everywhere except in two states, Nevada and .... ( I forgot the other one.)

Even in certain European nations, it is a crime to patronise sex workers, though sex work itself is not a crime.

I may be wrong, but I don't think there is any country in the world right now that views sex professionals with the respect they deserve. Mostly they are just tolerated and words like "vice" are commonly used to describe their line of work.

Johnston
19-02-2012, 11:21 AM
I repeat my english: The professionalization of sex is not welcomed in the world which a lot of us are physically living in now , which is to say : The Republic Of Singapore.:rolleyes:

what is a sex professional? those who only provide physical services or other such as lap dancers, pole dancrs etc etc and exotic dancers? if so then suddenly its a whole lot different

The attitude towards sexy professional varies greatly: there ARE legalised brothels in america and others such fun stuff like the largest strip club ever :D

if we want to bring "dancers" and others into the mix, our "sexual proffesion" become somewhere from FUCKING lousy to barely acceptable : as evidence in the difficult one has engaging a stripper or other such for hen or stag party.

It is completely legal to be a porn star and be paid for fucking and it is legal too to make smut and magazines... (State permitting).

Now compare with SG and see what i mean......

sgjoey
19-02-2012, 03:58 PM
Johnston...

I am not referring so much to the legality of it (prostitution is legal in Sg). It's more about the social attitudes. Even in places where sex work is legal, the social attitudes towards those in the profession are far from positive. It does vary somewhat from one place to another, but seldom (or perhaps never) are those working in the sex industry seen in a positive light by conventional society. Perhaps the only people who are more likely to empathize are those that make use of the services. Even then, not all johns are really appreciative towards those whose services they rely on.

Johnston
20-02-2012, 04:03 PM
There you go: i was waiting for you to see the light. :rolleyes:

The bias of mainstream society towards sex workers didnt start yesterday , t started B.C (Before Christ), and very little amount of wishful thinking will change it.

Now that you seen the light, i can tell you this:
Even american sex workers dont actually love their jobs all that much ;)

Somewhere around here i posted a clip in which an "exotic dancer" lamented that she went to FUCKING College to end up as such..... :rolleyes:

If you want to say anything good at all, is that the sex workers act as stress-relief valves for sexually repressed males, but society doesnt want to know about it.

Psst: Why so concerm about sexy workers but not other profession like construction worker and sanitation worker..... you know, if sanitation worker all strike, in maybe one week the country stinks? ;)

Johnston
20-02-2012, 04:17 PM
http://www.sammyboyforum.com/showthread.php?t=250492

Verbatim text "Next step is go out and get your srlf a job that's super degrading - i picked dancing in my underwear! Before i go to work i puff myself up by crying over my master's degree!"

FB right here:
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Jenna-Mourey/311917224927?sk=photos#!/pages/Jenna-Mourey/311917224927?sk=wall

" went to Suffolk University where I received a BS in Psychology, and attended Boston University when I received a Masters in Sport Psychology and Counseling."

Hot damn, didnt know you had to have double degree psychology to be an dancer.....

sulphur
20-02-2012, 04:40 PM
Hi Bro SgJoey,

This has been a hot debate between my friends and me for a few years. I think it will take time to change the thinking.

To me, simply if we have to pay for something, and the provider does it in a manner of maximum ROI for the client, he/she is definitely a professional.

No other variables should be placed in this equation.

Johnston
27-02-2012, 02:59 AM
helllooo TS? :D

sgjoey
27-02-2012, 11:49 PM
helllooo TS? :D

Yes, we should show concern for anyone who isn't fairly treated. I singled out the sex worker in this thread because this is a sex forum. But yes, I do agree that there are other categories of people who deserve better treatment from the world.

As for whether sex workers enjoy their jobs, not many workers can say that they enjoy their jobs. In this respect, sex work is not much different from other kinds of work.

sgjoey
28-02-2012, 03:43 AM
I used to believe what TS said about paid sex. In fact i am one who patronize professional sex worker often, as often as twice a week.

But now, i began to realise the wisdom of our ancestors who frown upon such behavior. Paid sex, in most countries, most religion is frown upon, not allowed.

Here are my thoughts on why, and alot came from my own personal experience.

1. Paid sex made something (sex) so easily available, it no longer becomes something treasured and longed for, between two normal human beings.
Where other decent men find ways and means to pursue a girl, get to know her, pamper her, care for her and finally marry her just so that he can fuck her. Those who go for paid sex only have to fork out a small sum of $$ for exchange. Its too easy ..... men who goes for paid sex often doesn't respect and treasure their partners as much as a person who doesn't.
Married men who goes for paid sex, ask yourself this, if this world doesn't have FL, whores, massuers, would you treat your wife better just so to fuck her every week? i bet the ans is yes.

2. Paid sex gives false expectation of normal sex between two decent man and woman. Already, we are being bombarded by hoardes of porn from internet, stories from FRs, we no longer view normal sex as a something enjoyable. Paid sex workers are trained to pleasure you, and get $$ in return, not pleasure.. But your wife doesn't. It takes 2 hands to clap .... meaning, it takes 2 lovers to make good love .....


3. Paid sex breaks up family. When you are my age, coming to 40, how often can you have sex? if you go for paid sex, then how would you manage to find the time and energy to entertain your wife? Many says wife dunno this, dunno that, but its precisely because your unrealistic expectation, fueled by willingness of paid-sex workers that make you become less tolerant of your decent wife.


4. Paid sex spread diseases - enuff said.

Interesting post. Needless to say, I totally disagree. Here's why:

1) True that paid sex makes it more convenient for people to have sex more frequently. But that does not make it a bad thing. Take the analogy of food for instance. When there is more readily available food for all, is that a bad thing?

2) Let's not forget that humans crave sexual variety. This is a fairly well-established scientific fact. Paid sex offers a convenient way of getting it. It could even prevent the breakdown of marriages because visiting sex workers fulfills a physical need without the emotional baggage. As a result, many men who visit sex workers remain married to their spouses.

3) After some years, many women in fact become less and less interested in sex. Often the vaginal walls dry up and they even find intercourse painful. But if the husband has no other outlet, they are obliged to cater to his need even though they may prefer not to. Paid sex could therefore be said to be a source of relief for such wives.

4)It is unsafe sex that spreads disease, not paid sex. In fact, because of better education and knowledge, most sex workers nowadays practise safer sex. On the contrary, one could contract an STD more easily from casual flings and ONS.

nuclearkid
28-02-2012, 08:47 AM
In most fields, professionalization is accepted and welcomed. Sporting professionals are paid huge sums of money for their talents. Professional singers and artists are highly respected. We all want our doctors to be true professionals -- or would you rather be treated by amateurs? Even the word "professional" denotes someone who devotes his time to doing something well, and being well-paid for it.

So why isn't the professionalization of sex similarly welcomed?

World class athletes are by definition outliers who are paid astronomically simply because they can achieve feats few can. For those godly skills, many would pay top athletes just to gawk at their abilities. Sportsmen will understand this is coming from...pure admiration for skills that mere mortals can only be in awe of. Its the same for any craft where the acme is attained by only a handful and naturally, they get rewarded handsomely for their abilities.

I am not sure if we could extend this to fornication (I use this term to connote intercourse between two people not married to each other). Sex in itself is a bag of varying components between two people. Off the cuff, I could think of chemistry, skillset, communication and physique. Within these categories, we would probably have guys (or gals) with preferences for different permutations, which more or less reduces it to a common maxim in this forum - One man's meat, another man's poison.

A 'top sex worker' is very difficult to define...and the alternatives are abundant. Most of us will simply go for a cheaper alternative if the price is not right... the supply of sex is theoretically limited to almost the number of women out there less the... well, unavailable.

Johnston
01-03-2012, 05:42 AM
Interesting post. Needless to say, I totally disagree. Here's why:

1) True

2) Let's not forget that humans crave sexual variety.

3) After some years, many women in fact become less and less interested in sex. Often the vaginal walls dry up and they even find intercourse painful.

4)It is unsafe sex that spreads disease, not paid sex. In fact, because of better education and knowledge, most sex workers nowadays practise safer sex. On the contrary, one could contract an STD more easily from casual flings and ONS.

1) more food for all can be a bad thing

2)bull and shit - sexual variety in a marriage can be innovated if both parties are willing

3) the "Drying up" is a known physical condition and there are counters for such which doctors will inform you about... they wont tell you "your spouse's vagina is drying up, and intercourse may be difficult, i suggest you to explore other avenues of sating your desires, such as prostitutes etc":rolleyes:

4) the odds of contracting STD from sex workers may indeed seem higher than normal, but then sex workers do have sex a lot more than you or i :D. and that's a given.... the onus for preventing STD should fall on YOU, the fucker , and you should have sufficient condoms and/or knowledge to lessen your chance of getting STD from fling or ONS.... (condom must be very hard to conceal huh..... wallet cannot put more than 3 is it ) :rolleyes:

sgjoey
01-03-2012, 06:00 AM
1) more food for all can be a bad thing

2)bull and shit - sexual variety in a marriage can be innovated if both parties are willing

3) the "Drying up" is a known physical condition and there are counters for such which doctors will inform you about... they wont tell you "your spouse's vagina is drying up, and intercourse may be difficult, i suggest you to explore other avenues of sating your desires, such as prostitutes etc":rolleyes:

4) the odds of contracting STD from sex workers may indeed seem higher than normal, but then sex workers do have sex a lot more than you or i :D. and that's a given.... the onus for preventing STD should fall on YOU, the fucker , and you should have sufficient condoms and/or knowledge to lessen your chance of getting STD from fling or ONS.... (condom must be very hard to conceal huh..... wallet cannot put more than 3 is it ) :rolleyes:

Sure, you can generally concoct scenarios when more food can lead to all sorts of undesirable consequences, but generally speaking, more food for the world is a good thing, especially if one is formerly starving!

Variety in a conventional marriage set up is practically impossible to achieve over the longer term without sex workers coming into the picture. Sure there are all sorts of myths surrounding this issue, but in reality, most, or I would say all couples who are married to each other after some years will begin to tire of sex with each other.

Doctors have their own moralistic hangups and are constrained to recommend the politically /socially-correct "solutions" that in reality will not work!

I agree that the onus on preventing stds depend on the client (as well as the sex worker). Both should behave responsibly.

Johnston
01-03-2012, 12:29 PM
Sure, you can generally concoct scenarios when more food can lead to all sorts of undesirable consequences, but generally speaking, more food for the world is a good thing, especially if one is formerly starving!

Variety in a conventional marriage set up is practically impossible to achieve over the longer term without sex workers coming into the picture.

Doctors have their own moralistic hangups and are constrained to recommend the politically /socially-correct "solutions" that in reality will not work!

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I think im the last one still engaging you and this threat has been CPR a few times already... so let's leave silently...

You must be joking, more food is great if one was formerly starving, POWs and concentration camp inmates in fact had to be stopped from over eating when they were rescued by GIs..... Moderation! In all things.

You must be further joking (and not married) in saying that variety in a marriage is impossible to achieve without sex workers. Off hand - staycation, sexy dancing, role play, hotwifing, letting your partner run free *with knowledge* --- so on...

The doctor took an oath "first do no harm", and he cannot in good conscience tell you "You go fuck a prostitute to cure yourself", because the brackets is (fuck prostitute got higher chance of std):rolleyes:

I dont need to "concoct" scenarios in which more food leads to undesirable consequences, Gerry Lim (that fellow who wrote 2 books on Sg sex trade) once commented that the US Sex Industry sent him so many free samples that it was a health hazard.....:p

BRADDAH. :D

sgjoey
02-03-2012, 02:51 AM
I think im the last one still engaging you and this threat has been CPR a few times already... so let's leave silently...

You must be joking, more food is great if one was formerly starving, POWs and concentration camp inmates in fact had to be stopped from over eating when they were rescued by GIs..... Moderation! In all things.

You must be further joking (and not married) in saying that variety in a marriage is impossible to achieve without sex workers. Off hand - staycation, sexy dancing, role play, hotwifing, letting your partner run free *with knowledge* --- so on...

The doctor took an oath "first do no harm", and he cannot in good conscience tell you "You go fuck a prostitute to cure yourself", because the brackets is (fuck prostitute got higher chance of std):rolleyes:

I dont need to "concoct" scenarios in which more food leads to undesirable consequences, Gerry Lim (that fellow who wrote 2 books on Sg sex trade) once commented that the US Sex Industry sent him so many free samples that it was a health hazard.....:p

BRADDAH. :D

There are two sides (and more) to everything. But the bottom line is that more food (and more sex) for more people is generally a good thing. As said, you can talk about excess, inequality and so on but at the end of the day, we have to leave it to individuals how to make best use of resources. But the more available, the better -- generally speaking.

Sure, one can try one's damdest best to milk variety out of a monogamous situation, but it is like rowing a canoe upstream. Sooner or later, you will run out of steam... and ideas. Whereas it is so easy to get the variety you want by employing the services of others. Over time, if the libido remains intact, the latter will be the preferred solution for most.

As said, most doctors are convention-bound and in most societies, monogamy is the dominant paradigm. So you are not going to get sensible advice from them where this issue is concerned.

There is no escaping the fact that humans are naturally non-monogamous animals. Accept this, and everything else falls into place.

Johnston
02-03-2012, 08:39 PM
Sure, one can try one's damdest best to milk variety out of a monogamous situation, but it is like rowing a canoe upstream.

Sooner or later, you will run out of steam... and ideas.

As said, most doctors are convention-bound and in most societies, monogamy is the dominant paradigm.

There is no escaping the fact that humans are naturally non-monogamous animals. Accept this, and everything else falls into place.

*blink. *blink blink

BWAHHHAAHHAAHAHAHAAA :D

You are fucking kidding me, i think you need a sexy education and maybe ten years surfing porns sites :D

My dear man, my brain insides have so much sexy idea im only limited by two factors: Money and willingness of partner to participate..... here's one : reversal role-play, male and female wear opposite clothes and pretend to rape each other :D

My dear fellow:How can the doctor possibly in good conscience tell you to go and visit a prostitute when medical science and mainstream media tell you that whores = std high yes? The doctor may as well prescribe you heroin....
Convention bound? Again, my dear fellow, there are always those who follow and those who blaze paths. Maggot therapy ? Dr. Kervorkian and Dr Kinsey weren't convention bound, my dear man...

I grant you that humans are naturally non-monogamous but it is not a requirement to visit sex workers to fufill such. Look up hotwifing, its fun... or so they say.

P.S More sex for people isnt necessarily a good thing, having sex is actually way more dirty than eating things that fall to the floor...

Just curious, how old and how sexily experienced are you (whether theory or pratical)

sgjoey
03-03-2012, 11:40 AM
*blink. *blink blink

BWAHHHAAHHAAHAHAHAAA :D

You are fucking kidding me, i think you need a sexy education and maybe ten years surfing porns sites :D

My dear man, my brain insides have so much sexy idea im only limited by two factors: Money and willingness of partner to participate..... here's one : reversal role-play, male and female wear opposite clothes and pretend to rape each other :D

My dear fellow:How can the doctor possibly in good conscience tell you to go and visit a prostitute when medical science and mainstream media tell you that whores = std high yes? The doctor may as well prescribe you heroin....
Convention bound? Again, my dear fellow, there are always those who follow and those who blaze paths. Maggot therapy ? Dr. Kervorkian and Dr Kinsey weren't convention bound, my dear man...

I grant you that humans are naturally non-monogamous but it is not a requirement to visit sex workers to fufill such. Look up hotwifing, its fun... or so they say.

P.S More sex for people isnt necessarily a good thing, having sex is actually way more dirty than eating things that fall to the floor...

Just curious, how old and how sexily experienced are you (whether theory or pratical)

You said it, bro.... willingness of the partner to participate is crucial. For many, this element is missing. (My take is that even if it were present, over the long term, the longing for multiple sexual partners will still be there.)

So in the common scenario when one partner is unwilling to play, should the other partner just suffer in silence?

Kervokian and Kinsey are hardly typical doctors. Most docs are far from resembling either. In any case, my point is that we cannot rely on doctors in general for our sexual well being, but must take the initiative to do what we can for ourselves.

There are many ways to skin a cat. Employing the services of sex workers is of course not the only way, but it could be a very convenient win-win for all parties involved.

As for age and experience, I am old enough to have been there, done that... and more.